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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: Wonderful point about Gayatri trying to quantify Aarti's love. That has been quite the theme with all the characters who are causing roadblocks in Aarti's life, hasn't it? Dubey wanted her to quantify her love by marrying Yash and paying off their debt and from the beginning Gayatri has been operating on the premise that Aarti has some sort of quota of mamta which will reduce for each individual kid, the more kids she has. And she is used to lavishing it all on Ansh, so Gaya thinks she will "break" that habit and make her love Payal and Palak.

@Mira: Girl, I feel your pain but shows are not made to cater to one type of audience, so there is no way each viewer is going to be unequivocally happy every day. I do hope they focus on the leads though, like you said and that you stick around, because we like you! 😃

I have to disagree on some of your points, though. We are not saying Yash has to come and save the day because Aarti is now a silent bahu, you said that. What we have been discussing is that the Dubeys by initiating the karz talk and all the forced lying and hiding and agreeing to ridiculous things have sent Aarti over some sort of edge. To me, she was not agreeing to go without Ansh exactly, but expressing her anger and pain and letting the Dubeys know that they had broken her and their relationship completely, through that passive aggressive remark, reiterating the karz.

The same way Papa Dubey blackmailed her into this marriage and Shobha supported him by not dissenting, she is blackmailing him and Shobha into fighting for Ansh, which works on Shobha, I might add. All that warmth, that impulsive action, wearing her heart on her sleeve has been stomped out of Aarti and she is playing the game now. The only exception is Ansh and if the Dubeys take that away, she is showing them a glimpse of the result. A barely recognisable, cold, calculative Aarti that has no love to give because her heart is completely broken. Her enormous capacity to love was her greatest strength and character trait. But she has been forced to kill this love instead of nurturing it. How much can she fight when she is standing all alone and feels that Dubey will just throw the karz in her face again, and she will have to go through the pain? Instead she has put her broken, vulnerable heart on lock down and the passive agressiveness is nothing but a defense mechanism.

What we are hoping is that Yash, with his superior understanding of relationships will, consciously or unconsciously, protect that last ember of the real Aarti that we all love by taking Ansh with them. We are hoping that he will stay true to his responsibility and stand as her partner to face the complications. Such acts of heroism are possible from every man, every day and that will make it all the more endearing if it happens.

@M_n_h: Welcome, welcome! 😃

Wow! I am so ashamed of myself after reading your post! I never considered Payal and Palak as two different people! That was an excellent observation. It seems that Payal is the one who has more hostile feelings towards Aarti. Interestingly, she is the one that made that comment about their mother in the first episode and it has been her instigating ever since. She stuck her tongue out both times, and didn't interact with Aarti at the mall, like you mentioned. Also it was her that made the comments about the step mother directly to their dad.

Palak seems like her dad. She fought with Ansh at the mall when she thought there was an injustice being done. More than being possessive of her dad, she was bothered that Ansh was "lying". But as soon as the situation was explained to her and it was justifiable, she accepted it with open arms and heart. She is a very fair little person.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Payal is the older one?
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Posted: 13 years ago
interesting discussion on payal and palak... i noticed the same thing... all the times that aarti has come in front of them it's payal who's been hostile towards her... it's payal who's also noticeabily upset about ansh laying claims on their father... as she's the older one she probably has more recollection of arpita than palak... we saw her holding arpita's photo while sleeping... it seems palak is just following her payal didi's lead... but when aarti actually attempts to forge a relationship with these two it's palak who's going to be receptive to both aarti and ansh... payal will be a tough one to handle... it's possible that she's even influenced by bua...
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Posted: 13 years ago
in logical world Aarti will more concentrate on her son than daughters though we will she her more caring in serial but in reality step mother don't have good reputation as majority of them fails to give step child love and warmth what they deserves .The marriage conducted on lies don't last longer I think in future track prashant will come and claim his son at that time truth will revealed in previous episode yesh told his brother he hates lies so this lie will bring turbulence in their wedding life ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thanks for the update. It looks like they are pushing Aarti too much. It usually happens with the person who keep on obeying continously. Since Aarti is in the middle of wedding ceremony she can't oppose much in front of all the guest. Hopefully Yash will be saviour.
And also I hope Aarti better tell the truth to Yash before she start the new life.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


The same way Papa Dubey blackmailed her into this marriage and Shobha supported him by not dissenting, she is blackmailing him and Shobha into fighting for Ansh, which works on Shobha, I might add. All that warmth, that impulsive action, wearing her heart on her sleeve has been stomped out of Aarti and she is playing the game now. The only exception is Ansh and if the Dubeys take that away, she is showing them a glimpse of the result. A barely recognisable, cold, calculative Aarti that has no love to give because her heart is completely broken. Her enormous capacity to love was her greatest strength and character trait. But she has been forced to kill this love instead of nurturing it. How much can she fight when she is standing all alone and feels that Dubey will just throw the karz in her face again, and she will have to go through the pain? Instead she has put her broken, vulnerable heart on lock down and the passive agressiveness is nothing but a defense mechanism.

What we are hoping is that Yash, with his superior understanding of relationships will, consciously or unconsciously, protect that last ember of the real Aarti that we all love by taking Ansh with them. We are hoping that he will stay true to his responsibility and stand as her partner to face the complications. Such acts of heroism are possible from every man, every day and that will make it all the more endearing if it happens.


Samana: Thanks.
(Bold) Right. She accepted all till she could...the marriage, acceptance of Yash, the name change, her parents incurring such huge expanses for the marriage, the kanyadaan issue, the "karz" arrow...she took all. Her father's words shook her to the core, still she recovered enough to go through the motions. But probable separation from Ansh was the proverbial last straw that broke the camel's back. She is a wounded tigress now and is fighting for her cub...and for that she is using whatever is there in her arsenal...the same ammo she was used against, she is turning it into her favor and hitting back. And for this if she has to use her guilty parents to stand up for her...be it so. She has shown a side to them that they never saw before...just so they know that though they stood by her, they are also the ones who literally pulled the rug from under her feet and caused her biggest fall.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thank you for written update. But i did not get the end bits what Arti said to Shobha and Dubey?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: AlwaysBeHappy

Thank you for written update. But i did not get the end bits what Arti said to Shobha and Dubey?

Aarti was sarcastic with Dubeys ...she told them "Fine whatever u all want me to do I will do ..u all wanted me to marry with this lie ,I did ...u all will want me to go without Ansh ,I will do that too ..because afterall I m supressed under your so called karz na " ...
She was plain sarcastic and trying to make the Dubeys feel guilty of all the words they had spoken in tuesday's episode ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: Exaclty. Being aggressive in this situation may not work so Aarti is doing what she has to do for herself, her parents and her son. She is not some sort of abla nari that gracefully but tragically rises above these petty things and sacrifices. That was not the intention of her dialogue at all. Rather, I think she is pulling out all the stops, plugging her impulse to love freely and giving what she got right back.

She is sneering at Shobha's concern about her separation from Ansh because that concern must feel so false to her now after all that she has been through by the time she got married. In a matter of days all her innocence and idealism has been taken away, by Prashant, by his parents and by Yash's family.

She is going to be really psychologically messed up now and I am so glad they have characterised Yash as someone patient, gentle and fair. He will renew her faith in humanity, I think, just by being a good person, invariably and never giving her the chance to doubt him or feel like he has betrayed her as every single other person in her life has.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Interesting discussion all 👏...
M_n_h welcome on board 🤗 ,.would love u see you on a daily basis now 😃...
Enchanted whether its analysis unit or dragon club ,we r going to hv same discussions ..its just that Aarti will b entering the dragon club that is Scindia house finally and so this thought came that we should change the name for some fun so that those who dont want to write only analysis can also participate in discussion 😳
Let me tell my view on few issues that r being discussed in last few pages 😛
@Why Yash should come in rescue of Aarti ..why cant Aarti fight it all alone ..this is her weakness: Ok here the whole matter is all about balancing the screenspace of both actors because its not just Aarti's punarvivah but also Yash's punarvivah 😳...Since last two episodes we hv seen Aarti's fight against Dubeys and we cant say she dint stand up for truth because she did and even yesterday her words in the last scene were extremely sarcastic to make Dubeys feel all guilty of their act which is nothing but a strong revolt coming from the girl because sarcasm is a type of revolt 😊...Will Dubeys ever forget those taunting words spoken by Aarti when she says how she is ready to b a puppet just to make sure she fulfills their karz ?? This sentence itself makes a strong revolt 👍🏼...Now if Aarti only is shown sorting out whole Ansh matter on her own ,then what is Yash suppose to do in the story ?? 😆
The whole concept of Punarvivah itself is to show how Yash and Aarti becomes each other's strong pillar of support in times of crisis post marriage 😳...Tomorrow if Yash supports Aarti and succeeds in taking Ansh with them , only then Aarti will get the first positive impression of Yash na because so far toh she feels Yash is characterless 😆...In future there might b many occasions where Aarti too might stand up in support of Yash and close this whole loop ...the story needs to show both as equals but it cannot happen in one or two episodes ...we need to hv the patience to see how the story proceeds from here on rather than drawing a conclusion based on one incident 😊
Hving said that we r not even sure whether Yash comes in Aarti's support or Gayatri will strike some other deal with Shobha in return of Ansh being taken to Scindia house ...🤔...So lets wait and watch before jumping to conclusions 😛
@About Yash's fatherly instincts which is weak : Here Yash is weak candidate when it comes to his fatherly instincts and he has a lot to learn from Aarti here 😉 ;When Aarti sees Ansh falling ,she runs to Ansh's rescue and in the process also asks Payal-Palak if they r fine but all Yash does is stands and sees it ...I know many r discussing that if it was Payal or Palak in place of Ansh ,then mayb Yash would hv ran ,but I doubt it because Yash is slow to react when it comes to matter of the kids and this is quite natural for a man to b honest 😊...But then again if they make Yash perfect in every department from his role as knight in shining armour to his role as father ,then what is Aarti suppose to do in the story ?? 😉😛
@Moral of the Story if I combine the above two issues : So while Aarti might b weak in certain departments like fighting for truth or against some of the unfair decisions and needs Yash's support but she is strong when it comes to her motherly instincts while handling the kids 😛 ...On the other hand in a male dominated society ,Yash might hv the upperhand to fight for the truth and take fair decisions and so he might b strong in that department but he is weak when it comes to his fatherly instincts and like I said needs to learn a lot from Aarti 😛...So doesn't that make both Yash-Aarti equal in a way where one's weakness is another person's strength and vice versa and this is what will make them bond in future 😳😳
@New promo :Aarti's bidaai is shown with dulhe ka sehra played in background 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
OMG! Jyo, after reading your last post I totally had deja vu of the discussion we had after the mall episodes. There also you had pointed out (and I called you a genius, if I remember 😆) that in different capacities, Yash and Aarti had rescued each other! Aarti had saved Yash when he couldn't find the words to tell his kids about the new arrangement with naye Mummy-Papa and Yash saved Aarti when she was about to fall into that manhole.

It all makes sense now. First, Aarti reacts much quicker than Yash when she sees the kids fighting that day, Yash does comes a bit later with support and acknowledgment and then later, Yash forgets to buy Ansh balloons at first but then immediately makes up for it because Ansh himself expresses his sadness at being left out. Here also the same might happen, that Ansh's own presence and his feelings remind Yash of his responsibility towards him, where all the intentions are good, but the instinct has still not kicked in.

And there Aarti was lost in her own turmoil and almost ended up losing herself completely. It was Yash who ran at the last minute and prevented her from falling in. There also she was in that zombie state. feeling helpless. I think that manhole could have been a foreshadowing of her depression, or the compromises she has to make forcing her to go into a dark place from which she can never return. Only the "dark place" is her own bitter heart which has been trampled on by the Dubeys. Will Yash come to rescue her this time?

Is Aarti crying at her bidaai?
Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago

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