4/4 Written Update/Analysis Unit: Bidhaai ke Samay

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tamannA

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Posted: 13 years ago

#141

hope yash stop the separation of aarti ansh

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Posted: 13 years ago

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@indu completely agree with analysis of gayatri. But guys we cannot rely on Yash to set things straight all the time. I would really like to see Aarti stand up for herself again. Remember that hockey team captain we saw in beginning of the show. I wonder what happened to her.

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Indu Ghosh

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Posted: 13 years ago

#143

Originally posted by: bbbccc
I know we hate Dubey ji, but we forget when he did stand up for her many occasions.

Remember when Arti's hands were trembling to give shradhanjali to Prashant in ceremony, he came to gesture he is giving her permission. It must not be easy on any father. Also he was happy for her throughout her marriage, maybe he has no hidden agenda but just to see her married from his point of view. Why would he take so much loan, put his house on debt and all...

His harsh words, I am sure he repents it just came out. But I do feel deep down he loves her, I hope Aarti doesn't break her relation with them and realize their condition.

Getting a family like Scindia and guy like Yash, cannot be that easy. I mean there has to be some hidden truths in reality.

bbbccc: (bold) All your arguments are right to a point dear friend. Nobody is questioning his love for Aarti, not even his intent. He feels whatever he has done and is doing is for Aarti's future happiness, but in this argument lies the paradox. He is doing what he feels is right, but does Aarti think the same. He knows his daughter well. If he had stopped to think and looked at the situations from her viewpoint, he'd know...he would know that his daughter will be shattered knowing because of her her parents' financial security is threatened, he would know that his daughter will never be happy carrying the burden of a lie that amounted to con, he would know that separating her son from her at such a crucial juncture would kill her. When will such fathers realize that just by marrying the daughter off doesn't mean she'll have a happy life? Dubey is taking the easy way out at each roadblock...and that will cost Aarti her happiness, exactly what he doesn't want.

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angake

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Posted: 13 years ago

#144

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv
@indu completely agree with analysis of gayatri. But guys we cannot rely on Yash to set things straight all the time. I would really like to see Aarti stand up for herself again. Remember that hockey team captain we saw in beginning of the show. I wonder what happened to her.

Gurtiluv, how can a captain win a game for his or her team if the rest of the members in his/her team does not perform? Isn't it too much burden on a captain to win the game alone when the rest of team don't do what they are supposed to do? In Aarti's case her team makes up of the Dubey's and now Yash. If they don't do their roles and offer her support when she needs them how can she win this war against people like the Gayatri/Bua and Papa Scindia?

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Posted: 13 years ago

#145

That's a good point. But I would like to see her stand up for herself the way she did to Prateek when he came to her house or to Yash on the phone. She needs support but she shouldn't rely on others. The captain should take the lead.

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angake

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Posted: 13 years ago

#146

Originally posted by: InduG64
Dubey is taking the easy way out at each roadblock...and that will cost Aarti her happiness, exactly what he doesn't want.

Indu, that is the issue I have with Dubey. There is no question that he loves her and he wants her to have a happy life yet his methods to ensure her happiness was all wrong. Words are so powerful. Words can either raise or break your spirit. Dubey by using that one word 'karz' broke Aarti's spirit. 😡

The fact that Dubey was cornered because his self respect was in question is not a justification for the way he manipulated Aarti into marrying Yash without telling him the truth.

@bbbccc, the point you made about Dubey offering shradhanjali to Prashant is a valid one. And yes it must have pained him but at that point could it have been also that he did it because he was scared, if he did not physically make Aarti offer shradhanjali to Prashant then the lie would be out in the open and he would lose his face in the society.

Not sure if anyone else noticed that Mansi was a witness to the Shradhanjali puja. So does that mean she knows about the lie too? 😕

One of the many incidents that bothered me today was the fight between the kids and Yash's reaction. Ansh falls down and gets hurt. Aarti immediately runs over to him. And then she asks the girls if they were okay. Shouldn't Yash as a parent have been there too to make sure his girls were okay ? I think Yash may need some lessons on proactive parenting from Aarti. 😆

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angake

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Posted: 13 years ago

#147

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv
That's a good point. But I would like to see her stand up for herself the way she did to Prateek when he came to her house or to Yash on the phone. She needs support but she shouldn't rely on others. The captain should take the lead.

I too would love to see her do that. 👏

Yes, a captain should lead but the captain can lead only if he or she has people to follow him/her. If no one follows (supports) then the Captain ends up standing all alone. So let's hope this Capatin has at least one person who would follow (support) her so that she can take the lead when the situation needs it. 😃

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Indu Ghosh

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Posted: 13 years ago

#148

Originally posted by: angake

@ Angake: You know I saw that scene in half a frame coz I was expecting Yash to soon rush into the other half. Oh, he'd have ran had either of his girls had had a fall, but they didn't; it was apparent from that distance that they were safe, and so none from Scindia clan was bothered...including Yash...and that is what bothered me. He saw Ansh fall and get hurt. Even if his fatherly instincts are yet to surface, shouldn't he have at least gone there and inquire whether the kid is OK, given how strongly Ansh feels for him?😕

Edited by InduG64 - 13 years ago

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whatthewhat

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Posted: 13 years ago

#149

The ONE good thing about today's episode IMO

1. Vedika... This shaadi was a circus and she wants a court marriage for herself! .Rightly judged for one so young. You go girl!

The BAD things:

1. Aarti's passive-aggressive dialogue to the Dubeys...huh???!!! What??????😕

2. The constant conflation of modernity with disrespect...they've done this before with the aarti scene and continue to hammer it into our heads that Paridi is modern and (therefore?) impolite/disrespectful???

Poor poor Paridhi...She's Happy to be married to Pratik, but even she has learned from her brief experience that she better fake some tears... LOVED the Scindias faces when Paridi's father said that she could visit them whenever she liked and that they would visit her whenever they felt like it...😆 SHOCKING! wanting to treat your daughter like a daughter, even AFTER marriage! Kya zamaana hai?

3. Gayatri and Bua...too obvious to even bother with...

4. The issue with Ansh - WHY is everyone waiting for Yash to be the hero? Oh yeah...Aarti has become a bahu now, she ain't got no voice no more... In the pre-cap, Shobha is the one who is begging...Aarti's POV has to be expressed either by her parents or her husband...jeeezzz...what century are we in?

5. What is up with this show in general? People sign the contract and then want to write the terms?!😆 Both Yash and Aarti want to marry for their childrens' sake. Neither of them has made any real effort to communicate this to the other. What if the other person was expecting a real marriage? Well too freakin' bad...

I won't even go near the Dubey's and Aarti's divorce lie...I will never get how telling the truth AFTER the marriage fixes anything...hey but call me unreasonable...

After agreeing to accept Aarti with Ansh, Gayatri reneges ... now Ansh has to wait what 10, 15 , XX days...

What is wrong with these people? They need a lesson in contract law 😆

I realize that the tone of this post is sarcastic...but I no longer feel as enthusiastic about this show as I once did. However, the one thing still going for this show is that the chemistry between the leads is compelling...hopefully they keep the Yash-Aarti story front and center and not reduce this to yet another in a looong list of saas-bahu sagas...

Edited by narangi_77 - 13 years ago

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golda

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Posted: 13 years ago

#150

Originally posted by: InduG64
Another mantra was initiated today...play one bahu against the other. Gayatri is on home ground here. This is her sphere, where even her husband doesn't interfere. So, very conveniently, for a moment, Aarti becomes the favored one, and Pari, the pariah...Gayatri will constantly play this game...using one's strength/weakness against the other's. Isn't that how it has been done for like eternity? Isn't this how you continue to hold the baton in the family? She is only following this unwritten, unspoken mantra that is passed on from generations...She has such beautiful bahus, who are each individually different, yet are respectful and good human beings. She can so easily envelope them in her maternal fold and guide them and mold them into the family the right way...but no, she has to follow the mantra, you see...!!!!!

Aarti's Corner: A lonely corner. They are all conniving to snatch away her only life source, her son. What more has she to lose? Nothing. In that one moment, when she vent out her feelings, her pathos, her sense of betrayal, her agony, she stood alone...a beaten down, defeated version, a caricature, of a woman who, just yesterday, was a lively, spirited, vibrant human being. You knock the life out of a person and you expect that person to be happy, right ma & papa dubey? And you say you are doing all this for her happiness?😡You better set the wrong right now...with or without Yash's help.

I absolutely agree with you Indu. The Dubeys, in the name of making her life, are breaking the personality and the character she is. She came across as a confident, straight-forward, optimistic -given any dire situation (such as an unsuccessful first marriage)- person with a fervent desire for family, love, bonding, and self-respect. She gives unconditionally and she expects as much in return too. But the recent developments in her life has pushed her to a corner, as you put it beautifully, where she has lost her identity. She cannot speak her mind, feel the right, defend herself, put up her head and confess and take the pride of facing the consequences to her confession, and least of all cannot even decide for her future with her son. How more pathetic can things get. Who is she fighting for and for what?

The family that she thought is her own does not understand her or even acknowledge her as a being is what she feels now. To her, her 'parents' didn't respect her feelings and did not understand what makes her happy is a big blow. Now she has lost hopes of anything and everything. She feels she does not own anything or belong to anything or anyone.

She has cucooned herself in a corner, a dark abyss, where there is no trace of expectation or hope. She looks completely broken and resigned. There are times in our lives when such situations arise where at the spur of the moment we think everything is lost and there is no hope and we don't even think straight and work our mind to think of what to do next. A deadlock stage. But is that really the end of the road? No. It is only in these situations that we really appreciate relationships, be it friends, relations, acquaintances, or even strangers for that matter. It will be one of those people again who is going steer you out of the situation or at least be there for you when you pass that phase in your life. Here, Yash we hope will again play the catalyst to get her out of this temporary mayhem.

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