Jaichand - Right or Wrong?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Ok friends,

Is there anyone who thinks Jaichand was not bad or was not wrong in his appraoch? He was right in his behaviour, attitude or actions against Prithvi. Think from Jaichand's Point of view. Give ur reasons.

What u would have done if you were in his place?

How many of you are in his favour or are able to empathize him?
(Take into consideration both, Sagar's Jaichand as well as real one.)

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ppiyu

Ok friends,

Is there anyone who thinks Jaichand was not bad or was not wrong in his appraoch? He was right in his behaviour, attitude or actions against Prithvi. Think from Jaichand's Point of view. Give ur reasons.

What u would have done if you were in his place?

How many of you are in his favour or are able to empathize him?
(Take into consideration both, Sagar's Jaichand as well as real one.)

wow finally i get to use my brain😆

I empathize with this dude, his anger over PRC is justified but NOT HIS ACTIONS😡

Being older than PRC, my grandpapa supporting my younger cousin because of whose dad i lost my dad!!

Every1 around thnking i am incapable & underestimate my abilities

Taking away from me my rightfulh deserving throne - Delhi & giving it to a kid...wht an insult wht humiliation😡😡😡

My family my daughter & my mother supporting PRC rather than me????

My actions:

I wud have asked Delhi's throne in return to my daughter hand in wedding into the chauhans family😉

Be more sensable & support my daughter & her husband rather than an enemy - ghori😡

If it was difficult for me to swallow my pride...i can't help prc..i won't even help his enemies

cheers

❤️Kai❤️

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Posted: 17 years ago
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well ppiyu i guess jaichand was right on his position i mean no one father of this wold wud accept this thing tht her daughter married with tht person whom her father hates.....tht time the situation was like tht tht JC hv to take one decision......if sanyo just married with PRC then der won't be any war.....but she eloped with PRC in front of JC's eyes so it's very much Hurting and Insulting if we think from father's point of view..... 😊 😳
other wise JC did this in luv with delhi's throne.... 😡
but one thing if hr didn't did this then der won't be any Histriotric story of PRC-Sanyo
so i think JC was main part of der Famos Luv-story 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kai_Hiwatari

wow finally i get to use my brain😆

I empathize with this dude, his anger over PRC is justified but NOT HIS ACTIONS😡

Being older than PRC, my grandpapa supporting my younger cousin because of whose dad i lost my dad!!

Every1 around thnking i am incapable & underestimate my abilities

Taking away from me my rightfulh deserving throne - Delhi & giving it to a kid...wht an insult wht humiliation😡😡😡

My family my daughter & my mother supporting PRC rather than me????

My actions:

I wud have asked Delhi's throne in return to my daughter hand in wedding into the chauhans family😉

Be more sensable & support my daughter & her husband rather than an enemy - ghori😡

If it was difficult for me to swallow my pride...i can't help prc..i won't even help his enemies

cheers

❤️Kai❤️

Oh Kai action items u mentioned were cool, give Delhi take Sanyo. But Jaichand would have hesitated here, bcoz sanyo is his daughter and not some property.

Also Pri would never ve agreed to this. He was in love with Delhi too. He was too much ambitious. He always choosed war.

Also I think Jaichand took help of Ghori to bring his daughter back. But in turn Ghori too betrayed him.

Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ppiyu

Oh Kai action items u mentioned were cool, give Delhi take Sanyo. But Jaichand would have hesitated here, bcoz sanyo is his daughter and not some property. lol give & take policy😆...u take my baby doll & give me Delhi😉

Also Pri would never ve agreed to this. He was in love with Delhi too. He was too much ambitious. He always choosed war. yeap that's wht happened ..war is no solution🤢

Also I think Jaichand took help of Ghori to bring his daughter back. But in turn Ghori too betrayed him.Yeap that wht the real dude must have thought

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Innocent Ishita

well ppiyu i guess jaichand was right on his position i mean no one father of this wold wud accept this thing tht her daughter married with tht person whom her father hates.....tht time the situation was like tht tht JC hv to take one decision......if sanyo just married with PRC then der won't be any war.....but she eloped with PRC in front of JC's eyes so it's very much Hurting and Insulting if we think from father's point of view..... 😊 😳
other wise JC did this in luv with delhi's throne.... 😡
but one thing if hr didn't did this then der won't be any Histriotric story of PRC-Sanyo
so i think JC was main part of der Famos Luv-story 😆

Ishu I think Jichand did that bcoz he was unable to bear his insult, luv for Delhi is completely diff.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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i don't know what i'm saying is right or wrong...true or False ..but

if i were Jaichand i would be so PISSED at PRC😡
Giving the throne that right fully belonged to me to a kid is a insult to me😡…my daughter running away with the guy I hate the most … is something I can't stand, people r just gonna laugh at me.. the respect that I build for myself would all wash down , my own people would thinkin of me as a Weakling …

however Jaichand was more in love with the Throne than his own daughter who was his very own blood…
didn't jaichand once think about what could have happened to his daughter when he joined hands with Ghori…
power does blind a person…

i don't know who's side i'm on😕
Edited by Ron16 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ppiyu

Ok friends,

Is there anyone who thinks Jaichand was not bad or was not wrong in his appraoch? He was right in his behaviour, attitude or actions against Prithvi. Think from Jaichand's Point of view. Give ur reasons.

What u would have done if you were in his place?

How many of you are in his favour or are able to empathize him?
(Take into consideration both, Sagar's Jaichand as well as real one.)

Good Topic ppiyu😛.......Ok here my views abt both the real Jc & sagar's JC

Sagar's JC......

Well i think his anger & hatred towards PRC is justified........He once lost his father for PRC's father.........He also became a king at the age of 14.........He is a able king........still his grandpa wants to hand over Delhi to PRC........& he is a good & caring father.........its really painful for a father to find his daughter in love with his biggest enemy.........moreover PRC eloped with Sanyo from that sayambar.......

But I agree with Kai that JC's actions are not justified........when he found that Delhi is offered to PRC instead of attacking AnagPal he should befriend with PRC(when PRC was eager to make up the relation for Sanyo)........though it would make him down for sometimes but he could gain emmence political advantage in future.......& if Ajmir & kannouj were together then ghori could be stopped invading india.......So sagar's JC is wrong both as a king & a father......

Now for real JC.......

in reality JC & PRC were not cousins.......there was no Anagpal & the name of PRC's mom is Karpuradevi who was a rajput pricess.........PRC either won delhi or got it from his father.......the main reason of PRC & Jc's enemity was the different casts they belonged to & the rising power of PRC........this became more intense when PRC eloped with Sanyo........Now in this situation JC declared war against PRC........if in this situation he would forget the enemity with PRC for the sake of Sanyo then the situation would be far better........but here i think JC had a fear to be disrespected & dishonoured by the other king of his cast........At that time most of the king went against PRC for his dominating mentality.......& PRC himself became obsessed with his success & power.......So for real JC I think he was right according to a king........may be not as a father but the king has more responsibilty to serve than the father............

thanks for reading my essay on JC😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: saswatisett

Good Topic ppiyu😛.......Ok here my views abt both the real Jc & sagar's JC

Sagar's JC......

Well i think his anger & hatred towards PRC is justified........He once lost his father for PRC's father.........He also became a king at the age of 14.........He is a able king........still his grandpa wants to hand over Delhi to PRC........& he is a good & caring father.........its really painful for a father to find his daughter in love with his biggest enemy.........moreover PRC eloped with Sanyo from that sayambar.......

But I agree with Kai that JC's actions are not justified........when he found that Delhi is offered to PRC instead of attacking AnagPal he should befriend with PRC(when PRC was eager to make up the relation for Sanyo)........though it would make him down for sometimes but he could gain emmence political advantage in future.......& if Ajmir & kannouj were together then ghori could be stopped invading india.......So sagar's JC is wrong both as a king & a father......

Now for real JC.......

in reality JC & PRC were not cousins.......there was no Anagpal & the name of PRC's mom is Karpuradevi who was a rajput pricess.........PRC either won delhi or got it from his father.......the main reason of PRC & Jc's enemity was the different casts they belonged to & the rising power of PRC........this became more intense when PRC eloped with Sanyo........Now in this situation JC declared war against PRC........if in this situation he would forget the enemity with PRC for the sake of Sanyo then the situation would be far better........but here i think JC had a fear to be disrespected & dishonoured by the other king of his cast........At that time most of the king went against PRC for his dominating mentality.......& PRC himself became obsessed with his success & power.......So for real JC I think he was right according to a king........may be not as a father but the king has more responsibilty to serve than the father............

thanks for reading my essay on JC😆

omg... really??? i didn't know that...man these sagars lie a lot..

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Posted: 17 years ago
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wow guys now Jaichand doesn't seem like a villan at all now 😉 😆
well according to some where i found this source



Tomars or Tanwars are Chandravanshi Rajputs, and descended from Mahabharat's great hero Arjun through his son Abhimanyu and grandson Prikshit. King Yudhishtra founded Indraprashth, modern Delhi, but he later abdicated in favour of Prikshit. King Anangpal-I Tomar in A.D. 736 conquered and re-established 'Dhillika', moden Delhi. Tomar rule at Delhi lasted until 1182 A.D. when King Anangpal-II Tomar appointed Prithviraj Chauhan, his daughter's son and King of Ajmer at that time, as 'caretaker'.

According to records kept by ' Jagas' of Tomars, King Anangpal made Prithviraj only as caretaker when he went on a religious pilgrimage, but when king Anangpal returned back,Prithviraj refused to hand over the kingdom. It should be mentioned that 'Jagas' are a caste in Rajasthan who are hereditary keepers of genealogical records of Kings, and the present 'Jagas' of Tomar/ Tanwar Rajputs reside near Jaipur, Rajasthan.

According to some records, Anangpal Tomar is described to be in power in Delhi in 1192 CE, as some historians believe that Prithviraj Chauhan was mostly a caretaker king as long as Anangpal Tomar II, his grandfather(Maternal) was alive and ruling. The fact that Prithviraj's coronation to crown never happened makes this confusion even more apparent.

Following King Anangpal giving the throne of Delhi to his grandson Prithviraj Chauhan, or more accurately Prithviraj usurping the throne of Delhi, a branch of the Tomar clan established themselves in the area of modern Gwalior in northern Madhya Pradesh. One of the greatest Tomar kings Man Singh built the fortress citadel which still stands there. A debatable topic is that Tomars did not lose any battle, Anangpal II made Prithviraj Chauhan (the son of Karpuri Devi, the daughter of king Anangpal II), his grandson the heir apparent to the throne since he was probably the most efficient warrior and leader of his time. It is said that Anangpal II's younger brothers then left Delhi and moved to Gwalior, Rajasthan, Haryana and other areas of northern India in disbelief and anger.

Prithviraj Chauhan was defeated by Muhammad Ghori in A.D. 1192. The Mughal emperor Akbar captured Gwalior in 1559.

so if this is true basically i guess this whole love story drama is all hyped up. It seems more that Prithvi Raj Chauhan was a very ambitious person. i don't think he can fall in love. uff i don't know just my opinion. Can't find out the truth its just too blur now. Some historian say something and others something else. what is the truth who knows????
I think theses sagars r just showing us the good stuff about Prithvi. good version only.
PRC would have been a very stubborn and arrogant person too. like jaichand. who knows the real PRC😉
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