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Posted: 17 years ago
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Kiran,
In your project if you point out positive qualities of Prithvi, then your teachers who will evaluate your projects will point out his negative qualities. This is because the teachers would have read the books written by the historians who criticize Prithvi.
Therefore, find out exact reasons what arguments these books give against Prithvi. And then think what arguments you have against their arguments.
When we talk of good and bad acts, then any act can be good or bad depending on two things - 1. intention 2. result.
The same thing can be good according to intention and bad according to result, and vice-versa.

Prithvi forgave and released Ghori. Prithvi's intention was good - in fact very noble. But the result was bad. This is because Ghori cheated Prithvi. However, one must keep in mind that if we do something, then we can only guess what the result will be - we cannot know it exactly because nobody knows future. Knowing what will happen is even more difficult if what will happen depends on what somebody else(and not what we alone) do. In this case, the result depended on what Ghori did. If Ghori had really made friendship with Prithvi, then historians would be praising Prithvi.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Many Historians' write that PRC KIDNAPPED Sanyo 😡 ...THIS IS ABSOLUTELYY WRONGGGG 😡 😡 😡 ...Yes,PRC kid-napped 6 of his wives' 😡 😡 😡 ...BUT,HE HAD NEVERR KID-NAPPED Sanyo..Sanyo & he ELOPEDD...GODD..THESE HISTORIANS SHOULD BE GIVEN OXFORD DICTIONARIES 😡 😡 😡
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Posted: 17 years ago
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hhmm one can't say tht "it changed history" if PRC had defeated ghori, later may be some other ruler had attacked india. india at tht time i guess was vulnerable to foreign aggression. if they were so powerful they wud have gained control of india anytime in history. India was divided and they took advantage . India was always a soft target bec. of it's immense wealth.. But what happened with PRC and ghori was bound to happen to it happened. we can't say "IF" this had not happened then "THIS" wud have happened. U never know..

Originally posted by: bezella

i agree wid u KIRAN 👏 .....i mean cmon...PRC was human afterall NOT GOD!!! 😳
but......i think......he made a mistake...which kinda changed the face on Indian history 😳 .......n that is...800years of Mughal era.....SLavery!!!! 😳
n im not Saying that the Mughalera was crap 😳 ...after all it gave us AKbar, Shahjahan-Taj Mahal, 😃 .....n yea mughlai food .(yummmie) 😆 😆 ....but after all...dey were foreign blood 😳 ....vre indians.....n SLavery ....wil never be Respected 😡 .....so...i guess...the Indian Historians...r Angry on PRC for that reason 😕 .....dey r like..."Dude ...if u wudnt have been dis complacent & so over relaxed.......v wudnt have had 800 years of Mughal slavery"!!!! 😡 😳
n plus...PRC paid no heed 2 what his trusted generals had to say....dey told him not 2 FOrgive Ghori 😡 ......BUT ...PRC Did....n i guess....thtz the biggest Mistake he committed 😭 ...16tymes Ghori commited the same Mistake....over & over again....n PRC in the end FORGIVES HIM...dude Get real!!!! 😡
n no matter hw mch i Hate ghori 😡 ....but ....cmon...1 has 2 say...tht Ghori played smart 😡 ...- as it is....evrything is fair in luv n war!!!! 😳

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Posted: 17 years ago
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haila how did my project become the debate of the week 😆 😆

took me 10 mins searching for it to find it right there on the 1st page.........ise kehte hain aankhen hote hue andha hona 😆 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl

Kiran,
In your project if you point out positive qualities of Prithvi, then your teachers who will evaluate your projects will point out his negative qualities. This is because the teachers would have read the books written by the historians who criticize Prithvi.
Therefore, find out exact reasons what arguments these books give against Prithvi. And then think what arguments you have against their arguments.
When we talk of good and bad acts, then any act can be good or bad depending on two things - 1. intention 2. result.
The same thing can be good according to intention and bad according to result, and vice-versa.

Prithvi forgave and released Ghori. Prithvi's intention was good - in fact very noble. But the result was bad. This is because Ghori cheated Prithvi. However, one must keep in mind that if we do something, then we can only guess what the result will be - we cannot know it exactly because nobody knows future. Knowing what will happen is even more difficult if what will happen depends on what somebody else(and not what we alone) do. In this case, the result depended on what Ghori did. If Ghori had really made friendship with Prithvi, then historians would be praising Prithvi.

👏 very good argument thanks😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: lime ice

Many Historians' write that PRC KIDNAPPED Sanyo 😡 ...THIS IS ABSOLUTELYY WRONGGGG 😡 😡 😡 ...Yes,PRC kid-napped 6 of his wives' 😡 😡 😡 ...BUT,HE HAD NEVERR KID-NAPPED Sanyo..Sanyo & he ELOPEDD...GODD..THESE HISTORIANS SHOULD BE GIVEN OXFORD DICTIONARIES 😡 😡 😡

😆😆😆 and ask them to look up the meaning of history first 😆 history doesnt mean criticise everyone n everything u dont understand😕

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: luv_khwaish

hhmm one can't say tht "it changed history" if PRC had defeated ghori, later may be some other ruler had attacked india. india at tht time i guess was vulnerable to foreign aggression. if they were so powerful they wud have gained control of india anytime in history. India was divided and they took advantage . India was always a soft target bec. of it's immense wealth.. But what happened with PRC and ghori was bound to happen to it happened. we can't say "IF" this had not happened then "THIS" wud have happened. U never know..

another very good argument khwaish very good 👏, so everyone all agruments for prithvi get claps and thanks from me😆😆

pls everyone do add more +ve or -ve arguments u have😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: kirantarani2007

😆😆😆 and ask them to look up the meaning of history first 😆 history doesnt mean criticise everyone n everything u dont understand😕

i agree kiran...some historians believe in baal ki khaal nikalna....and do pri really kidnapped his other six so called wives😕
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i think historian are like the media they will find something bad in something so good they are bias they only see one side prc was a king and he had too much of a good heart so what they want is to have a king who doesn't care about love or forgivness only power and that the people get what they want. I mean look at asoka he only wanted power and he was so powerful never lost any wars cause he didn't care about love like prc yet they historian still sed bad things about him even though asoka repented his mistakes and gave back the kingdoms to their rightful owners and embraced the meaning of love. Prc not only cared for his praja but himself as well he is intitiled to that thats why he married sanyo, and ignoring his kingdom ,historians are forgetting that back then it was custom to fight from sun rise to sun set so it was by cheating ghori won other than that prc was winning even though he wasn't aware of this war and sagars added the whole bhimdev attacking at night the only king which did that was ghori and even though prc lost india still gained at lot india is full of soo much culture i am not indian but i love the culture cause of it strength and history and due to the fact we are neighbours


Thats all from me folks 😉
Zaara 😛
Edited by loveableangel - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: lime ice

Many Historians' write that PRC KIDNAPPED Sanyo 😡 ...THIS IS ABSOLUTELYY WRONGGGG 😡 😡 😡 ...Yes,PRC kid-napped 6 of his wives' 😡 😡 😡 ...BUT,HE HAD NEVERR KID-NAPPED Sanyo..Sanyo & he ELOPEDD...GODD..THESE HISTORIANS SHOULD BE GIVEN OXFORD DICTIONARIES 😡 😡 😡

Well.... i have read PR Raso .. but after reading it.. i kind of agree with the historians... i feel prithvi actually kidnapped sanyo..

chand has tried to glorify this episode... however how much he tried.. there r some loop holes.... " broken bangles, sanyo fainting, sanyo in a shock, sanyo not wanting to leave kannoj " something is wrong somewhere....

n after reading abt all the 7 marriages of prithvi, i feel only indravathi actually loved him n married him. I know many will be angry with this post.. but pls these r my views... I have read raso with positive outlook for prithvi. but as i said there r some loopholes which i am not able to understand.

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