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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Luna I don't understand why you are insisting to promote rajat here?😕 you are asking that have instulted Gaurav in any angel ? with no offense in my opinion the way you are commenting about gaurav is like insulting actually in my idea camparing Gaurav with rajat is a insult to Gaurav because level difference is sooo much but i respect your opinion

but again you are saying gaurav needs acting classes and you think it is not an insult ?!! and yes you ARE comparing these two. rajat tokas is your favorite actor we all understand that and in your idea he is the best actor but it is your opinion not ours .the fact is whenever rajat could play a series that wasn't under EKs banner and was not historical and he was the mean lead that viewers accept it then we can discuss about rajat acting skills.

you are saying gaurav has filmy acting but you said rajat overactings are style

talked about kavin in CID as @hinz said kavin is still a loved char coz fans requests Gaurav to join back CID you can go and see comments on each episode in YOUTUBE why your friend told you kavin is a nuisance just because he has more screen time than ACP and DAYA and ABHIJEET in some episodes you are comparing gaurav with others even in CID

if you don't like his acting it has a solution don't watch his shows

If you like just kritika then you can comment on her and her acting but not gaurav .here all are kritika and gauravs fans we like both so yes we are saying gaurav gaurav coz you are criticizing gaurav in a negative way !!!

You know your comments are one-sided so don't get upset if naneta said your comment is like a paid one sorry no offence if you don't like actings and concept in CK so you can watch chandranandhini this show is still running by EK s favor of course

MY FRIEND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN OPINION AND WE RESPECT IT BUT WE HAVE OURS TOO AND EACH ONE SHOULD BE RESPECTED DON'T YOU THINK SO??

Edited by araan7260 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#82

Let's not get carried away guys, we are all entitled an opinion but its a two way thing, if you can give yours, you gotto take it as well...

@ Luna- Sorry but I'd never been a CID fan and could never connect to the concept, infact we always made jokes of the show and chars... and when Gaurav was going to be a part of it we thought the joke was on us...Honestly, I havent heard of the other characters who made an impact in CID , only know Dushyant coz he started at the same time as Gaurav, perhaps the fans were insecure with GK joining? and like you've mentioned already you guys hated that the famous trio got less screen time and Gaurav got targeted for it. I dont think there's much point talking about CID here coz thats done and we Gaurav fans too are glad he isnt a part of it anymore. I dont want to be defensive but every forum and show has a favourite and here it happens to be Gaurav. And I know you dont mean bad for him, so no issues there and this being CK forum lets keep the discussions limited to the chars of this show only to avoid unnecessary problems. Comparing it to DD's CK is still ok 😃

You cannot generalise chars and shows I feel. Every era has a certain type of shows that work and you cannot draw many comparisons between them considering the difference in time, even a few years make a huge difference in the viewer's outlook... there was a time when only kitchen politics worked and then came love stories, the audience now has a wide range of shows to choose.

@ Araan- We can learn to take criticism in good spirit as long as its not derogatory. I know its not easy but not not so hard either. Lets learn to agree to disagree and keep the discussions healthy and not target any members.

If you dislike something put it out in the open and lets have a good debate...we're all here to have fun, lets not get worked up and enjoy the show.



Edited by hinz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Luna99

@Naneta, have I insulted Gaurav in ANY angle?

I've said always that he's doing good job in the role of virendra in this show.
If you go by the book version, the role is completely different.
I'm SAYING everything in the vision of an unbiased reviewer.
I think I've seen enough mythos AND historicals to discuss the reaction of the general trp audience quite OBJECTIVELY.
I'm not a crazy fan of any of the artistes I mentioned.
Most of the historicals and mythos usually start with the childhood of the character. And children are relatively easy to mould as a human being, be it an actor or a scientist .
So people tend to accept them with much more open heart AND sympathize with them. Needless to say, most of the children in these type of shows performed to their max and managed to captivate us with their awesome performance.
But, when it comes to casting the adult actors, I can't say the same. Most of them failed to justify their characters and even those who did, they couldn't keep up with their childhood counterpart.
Same with rajat. He was one of those child actors who excelled in historicals produced by sagar arts.
Now, ekta loves creating historicals though they don't make sense at all (should stick to family dramas).
So she hired rajat to play the lead role in her historicals coz everybody knows that rajat can DO the role of a king. The viewers trusted him.
Now, talking about his performance in recent shows like chandranandini and jodha akbar, it has to do with writing and direction more than anything else.
They're crappy to say the least.And indian tv, it's very difficult to override these factors. But it's his individual performance that's saving the day. That's why I said ja and cn ran coz him.
There weren't anything else. Even cn has got a bad leading lady. Paridhi at least matched her role.
And about aham sharma, watch his performance in Bharatvarsh (abp news).
And talking about direction, then I must say that ashish sharma was one of the rare actors who managed to be as popular as his child counterpart as chandragupta maurya. He did an even better job than rajat in that role. And that show was on point. No crappy fiction like chandranandini.
Now, come to siya ke ram.
Sorry, but ashish definitely couldn't compete with gurmeet or even gagan malik(hanuman).
Now he definitely had the potential but the writer failed him.
And that's why I said the actors don't justify their roles. Direction and writing of this show is utter crap. Can't believe this is the same guy who made dkdm. He should stop this pseudo feminism crap like now already.
Trp aunties can't definitely understand this technical terms I'm using over here.
Since many of them have even watched the original dd version. So they definitely wouldn't accept this characters in their respective roles.
Only maricha get a leeway as he's an original character so people won't mind.
Now there's a reason I mentioned sagar arts as a PH. Their historicals bring out the best in every actor.
Both prc and cgm were their shows. Despite being good actors, the leads of this show couldn't weave the same magic in other production houses' historicals.
And comparing rajat with gaurav?
I won't certainly not. They're actors with different style. But yeah, gaurav is certainly more versatile.But screen presence, of course not. I think I've seen him in cid and he has to do a lot of nakhra to get noticed among biggies like daya and abhijeet.
And nobody really liked him or got attached to him like we do to other characters . We cidians are usually open to accept any people as officers in our fave show. But gaurav used to be an eyesore to many fans .
Rajat is definitely the actor with a royal air. Ask any trp audience who have seen ja and cn. These shows are nothing without him.
And talking about rajat being only in historicals, watch his performance in tere liye. He has also appeared in naagin as the icchadhari nevla and I liked his performance despite the bad direction and writing
Actually he DOES not get any other work than historicals.
If he'll get, he'll definitely do a better job than many other actors in tv.


Well lemme talk about CID first, go and check the YouTube reactions on Kavin's entry n performance. I'm sure you will get your answer.
Secondly, as far as DD version is concerned then it was more about krur Singh n shivdutt. Shahbaz khan got very less screen space. So we really can't compare gaurav n Shahbaz. My didi n brother are big fans of DD cK but they equally like this new Chandrakanta or would I say more then it won't be wrong.
Many of us haven't watched Old CK so I really can't draw comparisons between these two. I'm watching this one as a fresh concept.

Now talking about rajat, I have seen all his shows except CN. I clearly said he's a good actor but if you are comparing him with Gaurav, he doesn't stand anywhere. Rajat didn't make those shows hit, they were hit because of the content, story, ensemble cast.
As far as Tere liye or Naagin is concerned, it's you who liked his performance, not everyone did. That's why nobody cast him in any other shows except historical ones only.

Lastly you are insulting Gaurav by comparing him with Rajat.
Lemme repeat nobody is forcing you to watch CK. Yes you are entitled to give your opinion by all means but if you have so much problem with the cast and almost everything then it's your choice to continue watching the show or not.

Our views aren't unanimous. Don't present it as if the majority of people are disliking Gaurav or this show. Just because you have seen enough mythos or historical shows don't give you the right to speak on behalf of the viewers.
I myself have watched enough shows whether mythos, fiction or non fiction that I can also discuss the reaction of TRP audience quite objectively. And they are surely liking this show and it's cast.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

@shruthi, I didn't mention the Dd ramayana coz nobody could top the cast members of the show. Comparing ashish with arun govil will be a joke and a smashed wedding cake on the bridezilla's face on the day of wedding.

But I really liked both the ramayan's made by sagar in recent times.
As I mentioned, writing, direction and presentation plays a part.
So gurmeet wins hands down.
If skr would have been produced by sagar, then ashish would've beat gurmeet and gagan.
But I really don't like nikhil sinha's pseudo-feminist interpretations that are damaging to the essence of the real text.
Ramayana in sita's perspective?
Oh yes. But definitely not the way nikhil and star plus showed us.
There are thousands of complaints regarding that show.
Everything , every reinterpretation was stupid in that show.
Oh sita. She was even worse than debina.
Neha of zee tv is my choice.
Ravana, yes akhilendra mishra did a good job and I think he came nearer to the Dd version

And finally somebody talked about kritika. She's my actual pet peeve of this show apart from the villains.
But the other posts dekho, just gaurav and gaurav.
But yeah, hinz pointed out a point. Gaurav is ott coz director wanted him to.
That's it. The screenplay, direction, presentation is BAD.
I think that's why he's acting so weirdly.
About rajat in tere liye, all ekta's shows are mass produced and badly directed.
So definitely he would look like an eyesore automatically.
And talking about Kavin, I liked him in the initial episodes.
Well, cid was always about daya,abhijeet and acp.
First it was acp, and abhijeet was his assistant. Daya played a non-speaking role as I had seen in few of the 1998 episodes.
But with his charm, he rose to be the most famed cid officer , renowned for breaking the door.
The show revolves around the trio, and other actors have to make do with whatever screen time they get.
That's why the show has a high attrition rate.
But there ARE actors who rocked whatever screen time they got WITHOUT compromising the trio's screenspace like inspector rajat, inspector vineet, inspector asha, inspector shreya,inspector vivek, inspector muskaan and many more.
They made an indelible mark even in the short tenure but fans still hopes for their return/cherish their times in cid.
I know you people are gaurav's fans but sorry to say, cid is so about the trio.
Ask any hardcore cid fan.
And in inspector kavin's heyday, I and my other cid schoolfriends used to be distraught why the trio is not getting screen time. Acp,who used to be the boss, was missing in MANY episodes, there were no daya-abhijeet's scenes and even they used to get very little individual screen time.
Many fans were worried. So kavin got targeted. Unarguably, he used to have the largest screen time in some episodes.
Not to mention gaurav had a very ott and filmy style of acting. Well, script and direction plays a part, but there are officers like Rajat and vineet who justified every moment of their screen time with their strong yet sublime acting. Their acting used to make us think that they ARE real cops. Do you how many times the actors has been mistaken as real cops?
But kavin's the first guy I think a load of cid fans rejected.
Well, his entry coincided with the beginning of the more outlandish and fantastical approach to the show.
But, even the other guy, dushyant more acceptance in community than him.
Now, my friends told me Kavin is a nuisance who can damage the reputation of the show.
Now , I want to be neutral, so I watched some of his earlier works.
Well, he's one of the better guys out in indian tv, but he definitely needs acting classes .
Overall, I think he needs to stick to cute boy roles.
Gaurav is better than many of the other cute boys.
PS: I'm a kavin fan coz I thought he is cute.
But it's good he's gone. Coz cid will always be the trio's show.
His role was reduced due to fan feedback and it's very good he's getting to do leads in other shows.



Well sorry to intervene but you have answered it yourself that you n your friends Hated gk because trio didn't get much screen space and that talks a lot about Gaurav's popularity. That's not Gaurav's call how much screen time he or trio should get. Don't target him unnecessarily.

His acting skills are ott or he needs acting classes?? Are you kidding me 😆 if gaurav does then first of all Rajat should be sent to the same acting classes before Gaurav. He really needs them because his expressions are same since PRC days.
He should go n learn how to be versatile & be more attractive when it comes to screen presence. Yes ofc Rajat should also need to learn what's the difference btwn an acting and over acting. Because he's been overacting alot in CN theses days. Yes Rajat should need some classes on how to act in fiction series because all he's been doing is historical shows ever since childhood.
Because anybody cast him in a fiction series then I'm afraid He might damage the REPUTATION of the show.

PS. I'm rajat fan because I think he's cute as King. He should stick to these roles e only. He never get anything except period dramas because of fan feedback who rejected him in other shows because he cannot sell them if it's not a period drama.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@hinz we are taking the criticism positively but targeting Gaurav unnecessarily, saying he needs acting clases and comparing him with someone like Rajat is an insult. It's really not acceptable.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: naneta

@hinz we are taking the criticism positively but targeting Gaurav unnecessarily, saying he needs acting clases and comparing him with someone like Rajat is an insult. It's really not acceptable.

dear @naneta thank you sooo much for saying all things in my heart 😉
@hinz that is right we are taking the criticism positively but there is no need to insult any actor especially Gaurav its better to learn to respect other s opinions
and we are giving solution if someone does not like the show or actors or concept so it's their choice to continue watching the show or not
by the way discussions are healthy and no one is targeting any members there is no need to be worry😉😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: araan7260

dear @naneta thank you sooo much for saying all things in my heart 😉
@hinz that is right we are taking the criticism positively but there is no need to insult any actor especially Gaurav its better to learn to respect other s opinions
and we are giving solution if someone does not like the show or actors or concept so it's their choice to continue watching the show or not
by the way discussions are healthy and no one is targeting any members there is no need to be worry😉😆


You are welcome dear araan. 😉


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dear people, I think I criticised BOTH kritika AND gaurav. Both of them.
They're giving their best. But as this is both of them's 1st costume drama, they'll defo have some awkwardness.
And yes , there is NO need to compare him with rajat coz rajat is an expert on the historical genre. But yeah, discussions do come up while in our drawing room that rajat might've done this better.
I've already mentioned that the main reason of low trp is that the show occurs on life ok at 9 pm weekends slot.
Now rajat has his own problems. He's not at all versatile. But this may be coz he has rarely worked in the mainstream fiction genre. People do think two times before casting a guy who has done larger than life roles in historicals in a normal show.
And also it's very difficult to find actors who can do justice to historical and mytho genre.
So, EK thinks that rajat might save her day.
So, rajat definitely needs to work on his acting skills.
Gaurav has also improved much from his cid days.
But I have noticed one thing. Despite criticising kritika , nobody is ever questioning me why pooja or kashmira will be a better chandrakanta.
Every body is busy fighting for gaurav.
Even his overacting is also being overlooked.
I wanna say you delusional fan girls, kritika is definitely the 2nd best actress in this serial.
I watch this serial only for her .
Being a big time fangirl of her, I can truly sense her glitches .
PS: why you're after rajat's life?
I think I mentioned aham sharma
Edited by Luna99 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

Dear people, I think I criticised BOTH kritika AND gaurav. Both of them.

They're giving their best. But as this is both of them's 1st costume drama, they'll defo have some awkwardness.
And yes , there is NO need to compare him with rajat coz rajat is an expert on the historical genre. But yeah, discussions do come up while in our drawing room that rajat might've done this better.
I've already mentioned that the main reason of low trp is that the show occurs on life ok at 9 pm weekends slot.
Now rajat has his own problems. He's not at all versatile. But this may be coz he has rarely worked in the mainstream fiction genre. People do think two times before casting a guy who has done larger than life roles in historicals in a normal show.
And also it's very difficult to find actors who can do justice to historical and mytho genre.
So, EK thinks that rajat might save her day.
So, rajat definitely needs to work on his acting skills.
Gaurav has also improved much from his cid days.
But I have noticed one thing. Despite criticising kritika , nobody is ever questioning me why pooja or kashmira will be a better chandrakanta.
Every body is busy fighting for gaurav.
Even his overacting is also being overlooked.
I wanna say you delusional fan girls, kritika is definitely the 2nd best actress in this serial.
I watch this serial only for her .
Being a big time fangirl of her, I can truly sense her glitches .
PS: why you're after rajat's life?
I think I mentioned aham sharma


why are you calling us delusional fan girls now you are insulting us ?😆
what is this ? we are adults and are discussing our opinion
you are still insisting on your way of commenting
now i have a qustion for you why you're after gaurav's life?
by the way kritika is so good for CKs role
do you know why we are fighting for Gaurav thats because you are insulting him by your comments and rajat is expert in overacting dear 😆
so keep the discussions healthy and politely
Edited by araan7260 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

Dear people, I think I criticised BOTH kritika AND gaurav. Both of them.

They're giving their best. But as this is both of them's 1st costume drama, they'll defo have some awkwardness.
And yes , there is NO need to compare him with rajat coz rajat is an expert on the historical genre. But yeah, discussions do come up while in our drawing room that rajat might've done this better.
I've already mentioned that the main reason of low trp is that the show occurs on life ok at 9 pm weekends slot.
Now rajat has his own problems. He's not at all versatile. But this may be coz he has rarely worked in the mainstream fiction genre. People do think two times before casting a guy who has done larger than life roles in historicals in a normal show.
And also it's very difficult to find actors who can do justice to historical and mytho genre.
So, EK thinks that rajat might save her day.
So, rajat definitely needs to work on his acting skills.
Gaurav has also improved much from his cid days.
But I have noticed one thing. Despite criticising kritika , nobody is ever questioning me why pooja or kashmira will be a better chandrakanta.
Every body is busy fighting for gaurav.
Even his overacting is also being overlooked.
I wanna say you delusional fan girls, kritika is definitely the 2nd best actress in this serial.
I watch this serial only for her .
Being a big time fangirl of her, I can truly sense her glitches .
PS: why you're after rajat's life?
I think I mentioned aham sharma



No dear, it's Gaurav who you hv been constantly bashing and insulting in all your comments. I don't think there is any awkwardness.
Yes we can't compare Gaurav n rajat because the latter is nothing in front of the former. Gaurav has a class which Rajat tokas definitely doesn't have. As far as Rajat being a better choice for Virendra...lol you have a good sense of humour 🤣

Yes I agree Rajat is expert in historical genre because he's been doing this only ever since he entered TV😆

Another thing, I did react on both that kk n gk are perfect choice but you didn't say that kk needs acting class or acts ott.. you are saying all this for Gaurav. That's why we are busy fighting for Gaurav.

You are also busy fighting for rajat that you are even overlooking his overacting which he's been expert in.
I wanna say you delusional Rajat fan girl, Gaurav n kritika are the best as Virendra n CK.

PS - why are you after Gaurav's life.

Note - This is Chandrakanta forum in which Gaurav plays the male lead. So he will be discussed here. You can discuss any random actor here if you want to. But dontn start insulting Gaurav.

You are entitled to give your opinion. I appreciate it. But while maintaining the dignity of the actors.
You are Rajat fan doesn't mean that you start bashing other actors. AND YES DON'T INSULT GAURAV WITH ANY TOM DICK N HARRY LIKE RAJAT

Gaurav is the best...I rest my case.

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