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nancy

@naneta

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Posted: 8 years ago

#71

@luna

Well I agree Rajat is a good actor but certainly not better than Gaurav at all.

I did watch PRC & JA, he's nice but I can't imagine him playing rough n tough warrior like Virendra.

Gaurav's body language, his physical appearance & him being tall justify the characteristics/traits of a warrior.

Rajat certainly not fit the bill. Moreover, Rajat has been typecast in historical shows. He cannot sell a show if it's not based on history or a period drama. This is a fact that no one can deny.

Just because you imagine Rajat in it doesn't make Gaurav unfit for the role.

His whole persona is such that if you put both Rajat & Gaurav in same frame then Gaurav wud certainly stand out. He's a class apart & very versatile. Sorry but Rajat lacks any versatility.

But I respect your opinion.

Even as Akbar, he wasn't convincing.

Anyway mahabharta you are talking about was a disaster.

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Detox

@Detox

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: Luna99
It's my opinion and please read thoroughly before taking offense.
The reasons that chandrakanta is not working:
1) this show airs at 9:00 pm on life ok weekends
Since, that time that foolish kapil show occurs and and also saregamapa lil champs.
I bet the show will get lot more trps if they broadcast on weekdays.
People like me who want to watch it on tv might catch it on so that trps increase.
2) The show occurs on life ok.
This should've been aired on Star plus. Then it might've got more appreciation as more people watch that channel.
3) They should've adapted the book directly instead of getting inspired from the Dd series. That show had already got a lot of flak for interpreting everything in the book wrong and this series is following that. Now many readers of the book who hated that show might've liked this one for the accuracy and homage paid to the book. Here, instead we get some stupid reinterpretations. Who told you to interchange viru and shivdutt's kingdoms?
Now, I like the interpretation. But EK will also experiment heavily with the show, much more crappily of course.
So there, this show might've got credited for being AUTHENTIC.
4) this show is competing too much with Naagin . That is a supernatural show. Instead of getting into the supernatural, magical fantasy bandwagon, this show might've advertised itself as a period drama instead.
And yes, the supernatural elements should be downplayed. As much as I know, the fantasy element is very less there in the book. So they should've stuck there.
5) The actors definitely don't fit their roles. Kritika is doing a good job as Chandrakanta, but she doesn't CONVINCE the viewers she is truly the successor of Shikha swaroop.
It's definitely easy to imagine pooja sharma or kashmira irani in this role. Same with contenders. Gaurav Khanna is doing his best , but I do imagine some other guy in this role. Ankit delta's character is lacklustre, it's easy to think that praneet bhatt could do a better job as kroor singh.
Only sudesh berry as Marich is the most convincing. But you can't place a goddamn show on one villain's shoulder.
That's why Naagin was a hit. Each and every actor convinced the viewers that they were the best choice for that role .
PS: ekta's lead pair is also equally bad. But since I'm not familiar with their work, I wanna give them benefit of doubt.

Hi Luna, I appreciate your feedback. I dont think the time slot or the star cast is a problem here as every timeslot is competitive and almost all the actors are doing a good job in the show. I think the problem lies with the channel. Hardly anyone watches LifeOK.

I cant compare it with the DD version as I havent watched it.

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Diya

@Fearless_Lover

Trailblazer

+ 6

Posted: 8 years ago

#73

Last weekend k episodes toh Maine bhi nahi dekhe :(

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

#74

See weekday would have been better for CK. Because weekend I also miss many times. Another sour point is Kroor singh for me. They really need to work on that character because DD's kroor singh was epic.

Also we need more Viru-CK scenes atleast to build the momentum.

EKs Chandrakanta I am not going to watch. That will be terrible

Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago

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1115557

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Posted: 8 years ago

#75

@Naneta, have I insulted Gaurav in ANY angle?

I've said always that he's doing good job in the role of virendra in this show.

If you go by the book version, the role is completely different.

I'm SAYING everything in the vision of an unbiased reviewer.

I think I've seen enough mythos AND historicals to discuss the reaction of the general trp audience quite OBJECTIVELY.

I'm not a crazy fan of any of the artistes I mentioned.

Most of the historicals and mythos usually start with the childhood of the character. And children are relatively easy to mould as a human being, be it an actor or a scientist .

So people tend to accept them with much more open heart AND sympathize with them. Needless to say, most of the children in these type of shows performed to their max and managed to captivate us with their awesome performance.

But, when it comes to casting the adult actors, I can't say the same. Most of them failed to justify their characters and even those who did, they couldn't keep up with their childhood counterpart.

Same with rajat. He was one of those child actors who excelled in historicals produced by sagar arts.

Now, ekta loves creating historicals though they don't make sense at all (should stick to family dramas).

So she hired rajat to play the lead role in her historicals coz everybody knows that rajat can DO the role of a king. The viewers trusted him.

Now, talking about his performance in recent shows like chandranandini and jodha akbar, it has to do with writing and direction more than anything else.

They're crappy to say the least.And indian tv, it's very difficult to override these factors. But it's his individual performance that's saving the day. That's why I said ja and cn ran coz him.

There weren't anything else. Even cn has got a bad leading lady. Paridhi at least matched her role.

And about aham sharma, watch his performance in Bharatvarsh (abp news).

And talking about direction, then I must say that ashish sharma was one of the rare actors who managed to be as popular as his child counterpart as chandragupta maurya. He did an even better job than rajat in that role. And that show was on point. No crappy fiction like chandranandini.

Now, come to siya ke ram.

Sorry, but ashish definitely couldn't compete with gurmeet or even gagan malik(hanuman).

Now he definitely had the potential but the writer failed him.

And that's why I said the actors don't justify their roles. Direction and writing of this show is utter crap. Can't believe this is the same guy who made dkdm. He should stop this pseudo feminism crap like now already.

Trp aunties can't definitely understand this technical terms I'm using over here.

Since many of them have even watched the original dd version. So they definitely wouldn't accept this characters in their respective roles.

Only maricha get a leeway as he's an original character so people won't mind.

Now there's a reason I mentioned sagar arts as a PH. Their historicals bring out the best in every actor.

Both prc and cgm were their shows. Despite being good actors, the leads of this show couldn't weave the same magic in other production houses' historicals.

And comparing rajat with gaurav?

I won't certainly not. They're actors with different style. But yeah, gaurav is certainly more versatile.But screen presence, of course not. I think I've seen him in cid and he has to do a lot of nakhra to get noticed among biggies like daya and abhijeet.

And nobody really liked him or got attached to him like we do to other characters . We cidians are usually open to accept any people as officers in our fave show. But gaurav used to be an eyesore to many fans .

Rajat is definitely the actor with a royal air. Ask any trp audience who have seen ja and cn. These shows are nothing without him.

And talking about rajat being only in historicals, watch his performance in tere liye. He has also appeared in naagin as the icchadhari nevla and I liked his performance despite the bad direction and writing

Actually he DOES not get any other work than historicals.

If he'll get, he'll definitely do a better job than many other actors in tv.

Edited by Luna99 - 8 years ago

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

#76

@Luna I completely disagree on the factor that Ashish didnt do justice to Ram. He excelled in that role. SKR was the first show I watched that of Ashish and needless to say he was the reason I watched it till the end also, because he bought out the nuances of each role of Ram to perfection. I have watched Arun Govil in the old Ramayana and Arun Govil was really good. And sorry to say I couldnt connect to NDTV Ramayan at all because neither Gurmeet nor Debina did justice to their roles of Ram and Sita.

Coming to Hanuman no one could match the legendary Dhara Singh performing that role in old Ramayana.

Same with Lakshman. Lakshman of old Ramayana was far superior to SKR's Lakshman.

I wont comment on Rajat because I have not watched any of his shows.

Aham Sharma stole the thunder as Karna in SP Mahabharath. He was one the finest performers in the show after Sourabh Raj Jain and Pooja Sharma.

In CK as per me Kroor Singh is the major let down, followed by Shivdutt. Leads are fine. Shivdutt lacks the aura of the villian. Also Pankaj Dheer was too good as Shivdutt in old CK.

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Hina

@hinz

Moderator

+ 9

Posted: 8 years ago

#77

So here's my 2 cents on this issue of low TRPs

Lets start with the cast, firstly Kritika as Chandrakanta, I've watched almost all her shows like KMH1&2 and KTLK as well as Reporters and she's done well in all of them, As CK she fits the princess role very well and looks stunning but as the acting queen I feel there is room for improvement, her command on the powerful role is lacking a tiny bit but not bad at all, I'm sure she's working and I can't see anyone else playing CK this well. Can't compare her to Shikha coz that was a different time and era, for today's audience Kritika works!

Next up is Gaurav as Virendra... being a Gaurav fan I had my concerns with him doing a costume drama but once I got to know his role I could see why he fit it best... He is playing the char really well and though he comes across rather loud and over the top in a few scenes I ignore it assuming its the demand of the character and that is what's asked of him... I cannot imagine or see anyone else playing Nikhil sir's Virendra any better and certainly NOT Rajat, he neither has the physique nor the versatility. I have watched and loved him in PRC and DV and even in JA coz I moderated the forum and knew when to watch out for good scenes. Paridhi though being a newbie did well in JA but CN doesnt even come close. I watched RT in Tere Liye and thought he was quite bad, like saying you better stick to historicals and his role in that show was an eyesore like Luna said Gaurav's was in CID, and I completely agree. When Gaurav took up Kavin's role we fans thought it was a bad move but supported it coz we would get to see him in a macho role like Prithvi in LNMDJ but those dreams were shattered when we realized CID is only about well established long running names like ACP, Daya and Abhijeet and there's no room for other chars to grow. Gaurav struggled for screen space and eventually had to leave the show... Kavin is still a loved char coz we do get requests on his fan page for him to join back CID, atleast the show fetched him a bunch of male followers.

Coming to Ashish in SKR , I loved him in Rangrasiya so tried to watch SKR and I couldnt connect at all and gave up pretty much immediately... Talking about actors who've made a big name in mythos and historicals reminds me of Sourabh Raaj Jain who I believe played Krishna and had a huge fan base, he was cast as Akbar in Gaurav's Hazir Jawab Birbal and though he was good at it , these two werent accepted and the show shut shop prematurely.

Sorry I digress... Krur Singh cannot be the same villian as was in the DD version only coz we have too many villians already- Mareech, Shivdutt, Choti maa... Though Krur is turning negative gradually , his role is ok I feel with a bit of comedy to give it balance. He plays politics and that I know is loved by the TRP audience. He just needs a good track to execute , not just being choti ma's side kick or crying over CK's snub.

The prime issue IMO is the lack of promotion... and perhaps the weekend factor plays a role too. There's gonna be competition everywhere and with only a few lame promos thrown in on Saturday morning, viewers wont know whats happening and what to look forward to...IPL is another major factor and I guess they arent doing much story wise due to this...They've probably got all the big twists and events lined up for June when the viewers will have more time to try something new but sadly then will come Ekta's Chandrakanta and she'll buy all the viewers for it...

Life OK cannot wait for IPL to end, they need to change their marketing strategy and promote the show while they have the time and before its too late...

Sorry about the long winded post, take it with a pinch of salt if it has bothered you😳

Edited by hinz - 8 years ago

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sawaira

@sawaira

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#78

This show has beautiful story, awesome team, why aint they promoting it?

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

#79

@hinz even in old CK of DD kroor singh had comedy. I still remember he gets a slap and will behave like a child. Akhilesh Misra was something in that role. I am unable to connect that character in this show.

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1115557

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Posted: 8 years ago

#80

@shruthi, I didn't mention the Dd ramayana coz nobody could top the cast members of the show. Comparing ashish with arun govil will be a joke and a smashed wedding cake on the bridezilla's face on the day of wedding.

But I really liked both the ramayan's made by sagar in recent times.

As I mentioned, writing, direction and presentation plays a part.

So gurmeet wins hands down.

If skr would have been produced by sagar, then ashish would've beat gurmeet and gagan.

But I really don't like nikhil sinha's pseudo-feminist interpretations that are damaging to the essence of the real text.

Ramayana in sita's perspective?

Oh yes. But definitely not the way nikhil and star plus showed us.

There are thousands of complaints regarding that show.

Everything , every reinterpretation was stupid in that show.

Oh sita. She was even worse than debina.

Neha of zee tv is my choice.

Ravana, yes akhilendra mishra did a good job and I think he came nearer to the Dd version

And finally somebody talked about kritika. She's my actual pet peeve of this show apart from the villains.

But the other posts dekho, just gaurav and gaurav.

But yeah, hinz pointed out a point. Gaurav is ott coz director wanted him to.

That's it. The screenplay, direction, presentation is BAD.

I think that's why he's acting so weirdly.

About rajat in tere liye, all ekta's shows are mass produced and badly directed.

So definitely he would look like an eyesore automatically.

And talking about Kavin, I liked him in the initial episodes.

Well, cid was always about daya,abhijeet and acp.

First it was acp, and abhijeet was his assistant. Daya played a non-speaking role as I had seen in few of the 1998 episodes.

But with his charm, he rose to be the most famed cid officer , renowned for breaking the door.

The show revolves around the trio, and other actors have to make do with whatever screen time they get.

That's why the show has a high attrition rate.

But there ARE actors who rocked whatever screen time they got WITHOUT compromising the trio's screenspace like inspector rajat, inspector vineet, inspector asha, inspector shreya,inspector vivek, inspector muskaan and many more.

They made an indelible mark even in the short tenure but fans still hopes for their return/cherish their times in cid.

I know you people are gaurav's fans but sorry to say, cid is so about the trio.

Ask any hardcore cid fan.

And in inspector kavin's heyday, I and my other cid schoolfriends used to be distraught why the trio is not getting screen time. Acp,who used to be the boss, was missing in MANY episodes, there were no daya-abhijeet's scenes and even they used to get very little individual screen time.

Many fans were worried. So kavin got targeted. Unarguably, he used to have the largest screen time in some episodes.

Not to mention gaurav had a very ott and filmy style of acting. Well, script and direction plays a part, but there are officers like Rajat and vineet who justified every moment of their screen time with their strong yet sublime acting. Their acting used to make us think that they ARE real cops. Do you how many times the actors has been mistaken as real cops?

But kavin's the first guy I think a load of cid fans rejected.

Well, his entry coincided with the beginning of the more outlandish and fantastical approach to the show.

But, even the other guy, dushyant more acceptance in community than him.

Now, my friends told me Kavin is a nuisance who can damage the reputation of the show.

Now , I want to be neutral, so I watched some of his earlier works.

Well, he's one of the better guys out in indian tv, but he definitely needs acting classes .

Overall, I think he needs to stick to cute boy roles.

Gaurav is better than many of the other cute boys.

PS: I'm a kavin fan coz I thought he is cute.

But it's good he's gone. Coz cid will always be the trio's show.

His role was reduced due to fan feedback and it's very good he's getting to do leads in other shows.

Edited by Luna99 - 8 years ago