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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rekrn



@bold very true

@red Agree shakti will bear the consequences of his actions in the upcoming episodes just wait until he finds out about Menaka's past and I think it will come out soon, unfortunately because of how he treated his family they won't be there to help him through it. I think it will take a while for SS and SDS to forgive him.

Yaa first they,ll not bt parents r after all parents and Amma will b there to help him just my POV bt I want that they don,t help him and make him realise his mistake first!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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very good post. What ever Kn is today is because of SS & family itself. He was never treated with love. SS is at fault here... i would say... But Kn should not have done that to the FAMILY... Kn true colors was out when he did not want to give ransom to ss kidnapper way back... no matter how bad a father is, a child will not gamble his life but KN did it...
Kn is an effected son... i would say... 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Poojie...

SS definitely favoured Baba over Shakti..that is a fact. (that doesn't mean he loved Shakti less..just had a extra soft corner for Baba). Shakti's jealously and frustration is understandable but how he behaved today is no way acceptable.

this is what effected Kn...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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he is right , to some extend... in thinking that he got the worst treatment ... but SS n SDS had always been selfish ... even if SS n SDS has shown more love to K, its purely for their selfish reasons... n we can see SS' love for KN even under the gaali's n laaths... selfish, yet love... but as SS says , KN has always been evil from heart, unlike K ... SS n SDS played role in making that evil come alive ... but the way KN tries to harm his brother n family for money is not acceptable...his main problem is that he can't stand up against K , who happens to be his younger brother ... we have seen him stuttering n stammering n accepting defeat with gritted teeth in front of K., but planning n scheming n mad mouthing him behind his back...he has openly insulted K on two occasions only , when he saw that K can't become a father, but all the other time , he has remained wary of K... here also he made sure K is out of the way ... if he says that he carved love , then why all this nautanki for money ... will money get him his deserved place ... ? his motive is money ... n revenge even at the cost of his family ...n that's wrong ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good topic Elle...

Its true to some extent SS has favoured K ... K was always the apple of SS eye... while KN slogged it out and kept SS's empire running, K was cossetted and pampered..

But the different in the two brothers is on the inside... though KN was SS's right hand man and did all his dirty work, he never had much love for his family, his respect for SS was born out of fear, not love.. K, on the other hand loves his family unconditionally, whether they are for him or against...
SS knows this different in his children too well..

Now the story is poised interestingly... it will be war between SS and KN, with K in the middle...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rekrn

good post.😊

Today Shakti let out all the bottled up frustration that he had about being second to K in everything. I think he had every right to vent it out, the way that he did it I don't agree with. I agree with you whatever SS wanted Shakti to do he did and K got away with doing nothing. It is only when P came into his life that you started to slowly see K working and trying to change .

I noticed when KN was letting out his frustrations SS had tears in his eyes and I think maybe for the first time he realized how KN felt.

I would have preferred that KN had told this to his father earlier before taking his property behind his back, but then I think the impact of his words would not have the same power as they did today.



@bold: Do you really think that SS realized how KN felt? I felt that the tears were because Sajjan thought that Shakti was being unfair to him... not because Sajjan felt that he was unfair with Shakti all these years. 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssrbaqri

Dear elle,Apart from the fact that u try to get at the point in a very emphatic manner, I'm sorry that I can't agree with the content simply b'coz I perceive Sajjan's love for baba as a recognition of his inner beauty. Shakti is wicked from inside & SS knows it well. Shakti's jealousy is obvious but SS can't be held responsible for this discrimination. If u draw a parallel, prophet Jacob used to love his son Jseph more than his other sons. This sowed the seed of jealousy in their hearts & the threw joseph into a well. Joseph survived & became the king of Egypt. The legend still remains & u may come across numerous such examples in everyday life.Good stuff for a debate, though.



Great example ssrbaqri 👍🏼
But even in that case, the jealousy in the elder brothers stemmed from the preferential treatment given to one son over the others. Now, I can't say that Prophet Jacob was wrong, and neither do I believe him to be. However, are we clear on the facts of their story?

As far as I remember, at the time Joseph was thrown in the well, he was just a mere child, while all his brothers were significantly elder to him. It is but natural to love a young child more than a grown-up child. Also, Jacob's sons did not turn out the way he wanted. They were lazy, they were rebellious and the did not respect their parents as they should have. It was difficult to compare Joseph to them as he was a child, not yet able to work, and they were grown-ups lazing around. Perhaps their dad did love all his children equally when they were young, but as they turned out bad, his love diminished. Since this is centuries old, we will never know.

What we do know today is that Krishna was not a child anymore. He was a full grown man, extremely capable of working and earning a hard living. And despite his inner goodness, he did not turn out the way his parents wanted him to... they never cared that Krishna should have "a good soul". They wanted a blue-blooded Thakur like Sajjan Singh, and Krishna was not that. However, Shakti was EXACTLY what his parents wanted him to be. For them, he was the obedient one, the loyal one, the hard-working one. The one who turned out to be just as evil as they had raised him (unlike Krishna)... In short, Shakti was the perfect child. Why then was Krishna given preferential treatment?

Sorry, my reply became too long, but I do not think that Jacob's love for Joseph can be matched with Sajjan's love for Krishna. And while I strongly object to Shakti's method of seeking revenge, I still believe that he has every right to be jealous of his parent's attentions towards Krishna.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: elle45



Great example ssrbaqri 👍🏼
But even in that case, the jealousy in the elder brothers stemmed from the preferential treatment given to one son over the others. Now, I can't say that Prophet Jacob was wrong, and neither do I believe him to be. However, are we clear on the facts of their story?

As far as I remember, at the time Joseph was thrown in the well, he was just a mere child, while all his brothers were significantly elder to him. It is but natural to love a young child more than a grown-up child. Also, Jacob's sons did not turn out the way he wanted. They were lazy, they were rebellious and the did not respect their parents as they should have. It was difficult to compare Joseph to them as he was a child, not yet able to work, and they were grown-ups lazing around. Perhaps their dad did love all his children equally when they were young, but as they turned out bad, his love diminished. Since this is centuries old, we will never know.

What we do know today is that Krishna was not a child anymore. He was a full grown man, extremely capable of working and earning a hard living. And despite his inner goodness, he did not turn out the way his parents wanted him to... they never cared that Krishna should have "a good soul". They wanted a blue-blooded Thakur like Sajjan Singh, and Krishna was not that. However, Shakti was EXACTLY what his parents wanted him to be. For them, he was the obedient one, the loyal one, the hard-working one. The one who turned out to be just as evil as they had raised him (unlike Krishna)... In short, Shakti was the perfect child. Why then was Krishna given preferential treatment?

Sorry, my reply became too long, but I do not think that Jacob's love for Joseph can be matched with Sajjan's love for Krishna. And while I strongly object to Shakti's method of seeking revenge, I still believe that he has every right to be jealous of his parent's attentions towards Krishna.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Devil86

Well when shakti was in jail both father and mother were worried for him they love them both equally but what ever shakkti felt he should talk with family in proper way not like this abusing them and take their property with fraud

See when sajjan try to seperate his wealth he tell his lawyer I wanted to give hveli to kst and lands to shakti
But doing this with his own father he has lost the love of his family
When shakti wants to marry his parents did all they could
And kst love pratgya most when he felt his wife trying to hurt his mom he left her even gave her divorsE when her amma asked him to do
Krish saved his father from makhnu singh and did evrthing to bring him safe ad sound
While Kn told makhnu to kill his father but he will never get the ransom
Even sankata told the difference between kst and kn and scold kn
Even kn try to take advantage from that girl which kst brought for his father safety
In starting when pratgya argue with family ad krish told evry body a lie that he will do his busness ad misbehave prtagya told his family what ever krish said its was wrong but 1 thing is good that he have think of doing some work but krish didntt start
Even krish quetions pratgya why u try to sepperate me from my familyy which pratgya deny that and telll him I want that I wanted to see year respect thatss all sooo
And krish felt that when she was in hospital
And shakti turned bd with his fmily for menka
Sooo who is better son
Kst and kn
Kst



I agree with you. Krishna is now the better son. And he has done more to save Sajjan Singh's life. Obviously, Sajjan will love him a lot. But the differentiation between the sons started way before Shakti turned bad. What excuse did SS, Amma and GD have then?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: elle45

Hey all 🤗
So, Shakti Singh is at loggerheads with Sajjan Singh. He's taken over the Haveli and his plan for revenge has been exacted. Today, he went on and on about how he was always the neglected child while KST was the favored one.

Now, I could have seen this coming years ago. You might hate me for this, bu
t I think Shakti was right in his statement. Somehow, I always did feel that Krishna always received preference over Shakti. Krishna was the ladla of the house, the apple of his parents and grandmother's eye. But Shakti never received that love.

Just think about it. Shakti turned out just the way his father wanted him to turn out. He's a true blue-blood Thakur. He ran his life the way his parents wanted. He got married according to their wish. While Krishna was lazing at home for years, Shakti spent his days working, and you could say he was living off his hard-earned income. Yet, he was the one who was scolded at home, he was called Katra-Naresh, Bail buddhi, Kutta... you name it, and Shakti's been called it.

So, while Shakti really did over-step his boundaries today, was he wrong in what he said? Is his belligerence really Sajjan Singh's fault? Isn't it the elders of the family who planted the jealousy seed in Shakti's mind when they continually favored Krishna over him?

I think yes. I believe that the root cause why a child starts hating his own siblings is because that child receives less love from his parents. It's very natural to feel this way. If parents favour one child over the other, there will be differences between the siblings.
What do you all think? Is Shakti right in claiming that he was less loved? Did Baba really get more preference over him?

And for all our mothers on the forum... please answer this question from your heart. Even though all parents claim that they love all their children equally (most of them do, I'm sure, my parents did 😆)... Is it possible that some parents love one child more than the other? But still expect that their children would not feel resentful?

Share your opinions please 😊

well said @ underline and agree 100 %👍🏼
gr8 post 👍🏼

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