KRIYA RE-oriented and RE-loaded !!

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Having been accused of being anti-Pratigya by few members in the forum , of being said that I do not understand her views or stand..I went in search of trying to understand the thought behind creation of Pratigya..Why was Pratigya created ? what was the need for Pratigya.. whom does she represent, Is Pratigya relevant ..this was my question's //I surfed and trawled and read ..and Although I have become more mystified and intrigued by the CV's idea's..I can modestly say that I can now very dimly perceive what exactly the CV's are trying to convey ...



KRISHNA AND PRATIGYA ...TWO individuals , Two vastly different individuals ..If one is Earth, the other is Sky ..and never shall this twain shall meet , That was the adage wasn't it ... but disproving it the Twain did meet ...But why?? why did they meet ?/ what was the purpose of the CV's to get them to meet and co-habit ...


Again withdrawing back and taking a dispassionate look at them , subtract the human qualities and looking at Krishna and Pratigya abstractly one is startled to realize that they are the embodiment of two 'ism's' ...The CV's have created two 'ism's" and are trying to show their stand, the conflicts and the co-existence of them both ...What are this Two 'ISM'S'...They are IDEALISM and REALISM ...


IDEALISM & REALISM


Behind these two isms lie the source of much conflict in the world today. But what exactly is idealism and realism, and why do they matter?


Idealism, In simpler language, it means to aim for perfection. On the surface, it sounds nice, but all this ignores the basic human trait, the one shared across cultures, languages, and races: imperfection. To be human is to be errant. Thus, the dreams of idealists often get dashed and projects they attempt often end either in failure or at least "less than they could have been."To be an idealist is to reach for the stars. However, idealists often become lost in their dreams, and forget the real world around them; and as a result can acquire an out-of-touch aura about them.


This I Think Explains Pratigya to her tiny little toe ... She has always stood for principles, cut and dried Principles ,Pristine Pure principles and as such one can understand her apathy when She heard that her brother was thrown into prison, her anger when her father was questioned for by doing that , her very own principles were being questioned , Pratigya was merely defending it ..

The theory also postulates that the final outcome of projects or causes supported by the idealists tend to be less than what it is ...Thinking about the the Kesar and Aarushi case...it does seem so..doesn't it .. Idealism is the pinnacle of human perfection, A way of thinking that considers humans are capable of achieving more , can achieve more ..Pratigya has always stood for this, she has enthusiastically been driving Kesar and Krishna into achieving more ...In the case of Krishna she has achieved partial success wheres Kesar's has been a dud ...

On the other hand, realism means "the inclination towards literal truth and pragmatism" (ibid). It also means to accept life the way it is, and favour the practical method of dealing with it. This too seems to be a good trait on the outside, but it has some flaws. To only aim for average cuts short the potential of humanity. Just because humanity isn't perfect does not mean it cannot reach excellent every now and then. Realists on the other hand are more grounded in reality (hence the name), and as a result are often better prepared to deal with it. However, as they focus too much on reality, they often aim lower than can be reached, only aiming for what can be reached with assurance, and as a result often miss out on the few times humanity does reach excellence.


The above statement explains Krishna to his last hair strand ...Krishna is more grounded than Pratigya, quick to find the flaws and the obstacles in an given project, settling for easy best instead of striving for the difficult task of super achievement... has the ability to accept the ground realities with its flaws and not make a judgment on them...is content with his way of life and does not bother to disturb other's way of life...


As we saw Krishna wobbled when his Dhaba was set on fire , bec he was too much of a realist and knew that the Dhaba cannot be fixed in a day ...he tended to focus on the now part and stated what was quite obvious ...but when he realized that the Dhaba can arise again , he became confident and began to lend his helping hand...In fact , being the realist that he is, the moment he got the whiff that this project has the potential to succeed, he gave his centum ..In other words, he sought and got the assurance and only then chose to lend his hand ...He did not want to waste his time and efforts by engaging in a fool's errand and come up a cropper ..


Krishna has undertook the tasks that he has accomplished to its fullest success ...because he has kept his feet to the ground..Being an realist, he also has the unwarped vision to see things as they are and not as they should be..he has not condemned them but has noticed them and factored them in ...




These two then are the adverts for two thinking's.. The Cv's have brought them together for the express purpose of showing that Idealism cannot exist without a dash of realism and realism cannot achieve excellence with out the pinch of Idealism ...Agreed right now, Krishna and Pratigya are feeling their way ahead , each trying to understand one another view's without compromising their own views ...Their views are running parallel with few occasional intersection's yielding to good result...Yes !! There have been minor skirmishes and there will be clashes in future too...for this are two powerful ideologies and each will not surrender easily since each have their pros and cons ..It is the battle of this two ideologies that will make for an interesting viewing ...As we all know, at the end of the day , The pure and untouched Idealism [Pratigya] needs the grounded reality [ Krishna] for it to thrive , While the earthy Reality requires the soaring Idealism to keep itself flying ...Simply Put..Both require require each other for their existence , while Idealism motivates us to excel, reality finds a way to pursue that excellence ...even simply Put Krishna and Pratigya need each other for existence and they exists in each other and in us ..


The world needs idealists to influence humans to aim high and move forward, but the world also needs realists to point out the obvious and make sure people don't become blinded by their "big dreams".



Reverting back to the initial question's I had posed myself,

what was the need for Pratigya..?

To remind us the cynical, materialistic crowd that Idealism does exist .


whom does she represent,?

She represents Idealism


Is Pratigya relevant ?

Yes ! Because Idealism motivates us to achieve more , to aim for the stars , wherein you may not grab a star but may come at least with cosmic dust ..



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Posted: 14 years ago
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very well said...there is no need to say this...it has always been good...

but did cv's made them meet for this???...
did they meant the same as we think ????
are they able to in convey the exact message to the society ???

wat you said is absolutely rite in all means...

but do you think such a stubborn lady can live a peaceful life in todays society...???
are cv's trying to inform us that the ladies ashould be like pratigya...will it happen??????...
a guy like krishna...will there be any one...???

if a girl who is similar to pratigya marries to aguy like krishna, is this wat she should do???...will their family members support them...???

both the characters represents two difficult "isms"...its hard to digest...anyways there wont be anybody in the world like these two...they are unique...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sathya dii...once again👏👏...i was sooo bored in P forum dat der r no new topics only for me to check...just den i saw dis post n i suddenly clicked into it...
I just lubd da way how u explained Idealism n Realism...n i just lubddd dis para how u described idealism n realism together...
These two then are the adverts for two thinking's.. The Cv's have brought them together for the express purpose of showing that Idealism cannot exist without a dash of realism and realism cannot achieve excellence with out the pinch of Idealism ...Agreed right now, Krishna and Pratigya are feeling their way ahead , each trying to understand one another view's without compromising their own views ...Their views are running parallel with few occasional intersection's yielding to good result...Yes !! There have been minor skirmishes and there will be clashes in future too...for this are two powerful ideologies and each will not surrender easily since each have their pros and cons ..It is the battle of this two ideologies that will make for an interesting viewing ...As we all know, at the end of the day , The pure and untouched Idealism [Pratigya] needs the grounded reality [ Krishna] for it to thrive , While the earthy Reality requires the soaring Idealism to keep itself flying ...Simply Put..Both require require each other for their existence , while Idealism motivates us to excel, reality finds a way to pursue that excellence ...even simply Put Krishna and Pratigya need each other for existence and they exists in each other and in us .
Mwahs to u for starting such a topic...n ur question n answers r soo perfect...it was such a pleasure to read dis dii...mwaah..Keep entetaining us like dis..
Nechu
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post Tanthya..

It would be nice to see both merging and being one and it would be nice to see if both that represent each idealogy learns that neither is wrong and both can learn from each other...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: starlight123

Nice post Tanthya..

It would be nice to see both merging and being one and it would be nice to see if both that represent each idealogy learns that neither is wrong and both can learn from each other...




Thankooo Starwa ...

I hope so too ..not a total merger perhaps but an acknowledgement tht both require one another ..now that would be wonderful ..


Side Note n unrelated to MKAP

Star, made that fusion C... turned out Yummy ...tooo lazy to go to go to inbox n Pm..so saying it here itself..

Chummi for u for giving me the rec...😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanthya




Thankooo Starwa ...

I hope so too ..not a total merger perhaps but an acknowledgement tht both require one another ..now that would be wonderful .. Oh I hope so to..It would be wonderful to see them both growing and understanding the need and requirement of each other, something each father failed to teach and instill..


Side Note n unrelated to MKAP

Star, made that fusion C... turned out Yummy ...tooo lazy to go to go to inbox n Pm..so saying it here itself..

It was my early morning sherlock mystery which woke me up...😆😆

Chummi for u for giving me the rec...😃 Chummis and hugs back to you and for writing such a balanced and well thought post..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lakshmipai

very well said...there is no need to say this...it has always been good...


but did cv's made them meet for this???...
did they meant the same as we think ????
are they able to in convey the exact message to the society ???

wat you said is absolutely rite in all means...

but do you think such a stubborn lady can live a peaceful life in todays society...???


Personally, Unless the hubby is of an extraordinarily weak disposition or a door mat kind ...then People like Pratigya will face lots of problems in their marital life

are cv's trying to inform us that the ladies ashould be like pratigya...will it happen??????...

I do not think the CV's are trying to say anything..if u notice their disclaimer, they very pointedly say that are just showing the issues...Final judgement and solution is our's ...I don't think all the ladies can be like Pratigya ...Some will be like Komal and Some will be like Kesar ...I think women has to be blend of all this 3 ..

a guy like krishna...will there be any one...???

Rarely !! ..

if a girl who is similar to pratigya marries to aguy like krishna, is this wat she should do???...will their family members support them...???

If she does that, I think she would be thrown out at the first instance esp if the girl is not monied ..?? Even if parents were to keep her with them, gradually I think there would be some pointed remarks, or slights ..it would be better if she lives away from parents ...but in Indian society ...we do know that married single woman is an easy prey ..

both the characters represents two difficult "isms"...its hard to digest...anyways there wont be anybody in the world like these two...they are unique...



Thank You , Lakshmi 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Brilliant piece of writing!! 👏👏..taking into account both the sides!! ..👏👏...Like you said that both need to co-exist and learn from each other...P and K needs to do that as well...P needs to take a look at realism as well..and we have already seen K significantly accepting the views of idealism!! 😊
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Originally posted by: ...Poojie...

Brilliant piece of writing!! 👏👏..taking into account both the sides!! ..👏👏...Like you said that both need to co-exist and learn from each other...P and K needs to do that as well...P needs to take a look at realism as well..and we have already seen K significantly accepting the views of idealism!! 😊

ahhh...so well said poojie (now i feel like calling u datSmile..hope u dnt have problem..)...yes...P needs to learn some lessons of realism...as she can't live in dis world with idealism only...😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: RoKa PraNeev

ahhh...so well said poojie (now i feel like calling u dat😊..hope u dnt have problem..)...yes...P needs to learn some lessons of realism...as she can't live in dis world with idealism only...😛



Ofcourse I have no problem with it!! 😛..that's why I changed it 😉😆...Let's see whether cvs are brave enough to show that...going by past experiences don't think so 🤔

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