HOW MUCH LONGER??

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Posted: 14 years ago
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HOW MUCH LONGER??

How much longer.............. will the CVs show Krishna being disrespectful to Amma and Bauji ' two parents who love him to death?

The instances of Krishna being a disrespectful son has progressively increased and the initial bantering that was a pleasure to watch has now become an obnoxious taunting and a daily dose of major "lip" that is now awkward to watch.

Some recent examples

  • Diwali gifts for wifey - using father's money and credit. If he has reformed enough to buy his wife gifts for Diwali can he not be shown to buy something for his mother and his grandmother at least, if not for bauji and kesar?

Amma's expectation was reasonable as a mother yet his response was uncaring. Then the most audacious comment - don't ruin my wife's Diwali. Never you fear, fair Krishna, your sasural has enough arsenal to do that singlehandedly.

Pratigya was upset that he was taunted about his freeloading and spendthrift behaviour yet she did not remind him that it was rude not to buy his family gifts, especially considering he used his father and mother's money? Isn't she the more samajdhar one among the two? Doesn't she know better after seeing her own brother and father's actions as sons of their house?

  • The Morning After the Indian version of Strip Poker on the terrace - he does not like his Amma Bauji's comments re what the shell/dice and the broken necklace imply about him and his wife so he insults his mother and tells her to join the theatre and then he constantly refers to his Amma as "tumri biwi".

Has it occurred to him that if his parents comments seem inappropriate then his desire to play amorous and very obvious games outside the sanctity of their very exclusive bedroom in different nooks of a joint family home is equally if not more so inappropriate. I understand that many may find his innovative romantic ideas entertaining but even the most daring of men will observe a modicum of modesty in the common areas of their parents home, won't they?

It is constantly being implied that Krishna is being redeemed and transformed by Pratigya ' her presence, her influence, her wise talks. The changeover from the ill-mannered thug to the civilized gentleman

I am sorry but if this newly found civility and respect can only be shown to his sasural who constantly disrespect him and treat him as persona non-grata while his own family is treated by him with less than admirable civility then this is not real transformation for me.

He acts less like a son of that house and more like a guest that has a direct access to the family treasure chest. If their behaviour really bothers him then he should take his wife and LEAVE instead of constantly doing provocative things, getting the ire of his parents and then "dissing" them for it.

Adarsh bought his entire family gifts. He has never ever given his family lip for his wife or anyone else. Aman is the same yet Krishna's transformation is lacking in this regard. It does not matter if is family is the mob, it does not matter if saas-bahu conflict is alive and kicking, the thing that drew me to Krishna was the way he balanced his duties as a son with his desire to be a loving husband. This new Krishna is unpalatable and I hope the CVs don't make this worse.

I can assume that this ill behaviour of Krishna in his father's home is all leading up to a major showdown which sees Kriya out of TN ' either voluntarily or otherwise.

I would much rather the showdown be about Krishna's predicament ' the fact that his father has not given him the necessary tools to find a job or teach any child he might have and his constant financial dependence on SS.

I would rather the showdown NOT BE about their antagonism for Pratigya or something equally corny.

Krishna has always been my main draw to this show and while I feel that his bolder aggressive side as a man has become "mushy and timid" since he started getting some, I hope that at least his playful side as a son is salvaged so that it can provide us with some entertainment as before.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Krishna's redemption(s) will always remain questionable. Most of his bad behavior is a direct reflection of silly situations created by his own family as well as his upbringing there, punishments of everyone living at TN's began after the political marriage with Prats. The Thakur family's redemption lies in punishing each other often for crimes they commit intentionally or unintentionally, as seen in every episode on daily basis these days. Unreal and very very fictional isn't it, like it or dislike it, keep writing about it. CVs may read and listen some day 😆
Edited by PRAGMATIC - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i agree krishna has lost his charm.....
these days his only role is to either defend or woo prats ..... other than that, he doesnt exist ...... I'm just on the verge of quiting ...... seriously it's breaking my heart seeing krishna losing his identity ......becoming a better individual is good but completely losing yourself in the name of love is pathetic
Edited by an_jaani - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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His rudeness to his parents was apalling , telling his mom to go to Mumbai etc is not done . He is a joru ka gulam Pati and a horrible son . Freeloads and selfishly uses his parents .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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but... krishna will only respect them if his parents respect pratigya... so why ont they justrespect pratigya first.. and then his parents blame everything on pratigya that she did everything they should look at themselves first and see what they are doing wrong....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont call my baba disrespectful please!!! all he is doing is taking pratigya's side and he should!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: premprem1

but... krishna will only respect them if his parents respect pratigya... so why ont they justrespect pratigya first.. and then his parents blame everything on pratigya that she did everything they should look at themselves first and see what they are doing wrong....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont call my baba disrespectful please!!! all he is doing is taking pratigya's side and he should!

did u watch the show from start?...
pratigya's agenda from day one was disrespecting and insulting her hubby n in-laws.....but since pratigya fell in love with krishna n gave herself to him.....so now.krishna has started disrespecting and insulting his parents for her
n u say thakurs should respect prats.....for what?
Edited by an_jaani - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Acco to K, P is his responsibility. He wants to make his wify happy on her 1st deewali. What's wrong in that, why do we talk and blame like a saas(amma) who feels jealous on her DIL?

Moreover I cannot understand one point being raised here that, when ever K does anything for P, he is criticised of lost identity/personality or disrespecting his parents. My understanding is that respect and love for wife is not disrespect to the parents. K thinks that he has the right to spend his father's money as a son and same way he feels that P is his responsibility as his wife.

He is a gem of a person, though he felt that his parents were wrong in certain incidents, he stood with them and made P to understand his position too. K tried to explain his parents' POV to P, when the rangoli was washed off .(even though he understood that his parents were wrong).

No wonder, some may even say that how can P draw rangoli in SS house.

We all wanted P not to attend her sis marriage as her in-laws were humiliated. We wanted K to get angry against his father's humiliation at the hands of the IG and against saxsena for silently watching the humiliation. We want P and K to carry out their responsibility as son and DIL. But we don't want k to spend his father's money and want him (& P)to feel guilty about it.

Saying K to start thinking about earning and financially independent is different but always criticising him for loving/respecting his wife or P for wearing chiffon saries and jewels of SS doesn't look objective. It's my POV. Just for the reason that you live in a house and wear/eat same like the ppl in that house, you should be silent against all the injustices happening in that house ?????. I don't think her intentions were bad while objecting the cruelty or violence.

K is also taunted like anything by his parent. If you think that his parents do that with concern and love, take this also as an expression of love by K. It is the culture of this house.

Till y day, he used to spend lavishly on his fathers' money and he did not have the thought to buy anything for his family. Now he does the same but the difference is he is married to P. He didn't do it stealthily rather he did it with lots of proud.

How cutely he said to his mom that it's his babuji to buy for her. He also suggests his father to make the women of this house feel happy for the real peace.

This is the house which doesn't have any values at all, which disrespect & humiliate anybody for any reason. They do anything for their selfish motives -for that they even kill anyone. Infact poor K is still ignorant of their true colours and we should feel bad for that.

K is changing but not changed completely . More over the change should be for his well being and for the betterment his own .......not for any other purposes i feel.

KriYa are the unique and adorable combination that the CVs have created. Hats off to the CVs- for crafting these characters beautifully and gradually. So please '.please don't bash KriYa.
Edited by foryoukriya - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful

HOW MUCH LONGER??

How much longer.............. will the CVs show Krishna being disrespectful to Amma and Bauji ' two parents who love him to death?

The instances of Krishna being a disrespectful son has progressively increased and the initial bantering that was a pleasure to watch has now become an obnoxious taunting and a daily dose of major "lip" that is now awkward to watch.

Some recent examples

  • Diwali gifts for wifey - using father's money and credit. If he has reformed enough to buy his wife gifts for Diwali can he not be shown to buy something for his mother and his grandmother at least, if not for bauji and kesar?

Amma's expectation was reasonable as a mother yet his response was uncaring. Then the most audacious comment - don't ruin my wife's Diwali. Never you fear, fair Krishna, your sasural has enough arsenal to do that singlehandedly.

Pratigya was upset that he was taunted about his freeloading and spendthrift behaviour yet she did not remind him that it was rude not to buy his family gifts, especially considering he used his father and mother's money? Isn't she the more samajdhar one among the two? Doesn't she know better after seeing her own brother and father's actions as sons of their house? yes, krishna and pratigya both acted stupidly.. but krishna from the start was shown like that only........he either orders his parents or just insults them as he please....and its partially the fault of SS and amma that they r seeing this day. they have ruined him by their 'laad pyaar'.........remember how easily he called them mohallewaale even before prats came to the house........he is very much selfish and pratigya should first try to eradicate this poisonous disease from him.............he was never a good son who cared a hoots about his fathers pride and honor and 'parampara' of his clan and caste and home(and yet he loves his father more than anything, that's the irony).........but we were happy when he said his famous one liner 'parampara gayi tel lene' , many(including me) felt he is THE HERO, who will discard anything with complete disregard to have his love.......u must remember his reaction when SS was beating amma up......what kind of a son, gets irritated that his sleep is disturbed when he hear his mother howling in pain..........😡and also his complete disregard for kesar.......😡sakthi said the truth about krishna that SS has seated him in a high throne on his head and now why complain when he choses to dance on his head........... from the start of the serial he has shown emotions of love towards only pratigya and his bauji......and when bauji taunts him or scolds him he gives it back to him in equal measure.......to pratigya also.....we have seen many instances of this.....he wants everybody to obey him and wants everything to happen as he pleases......if not he will blackmail, threaten, insist until he sees the reason in their point of view.........or else he would simply give up in the name of love.....as is the case with his bauji and pratigya, we have seen many instances of this too..............😊

  • The Morning After the Indian version of Strip Poker on the terrace - he does not like his Amma Bauji's comments re what the shell/dice and the broken necklace imply about him and his wife so he insults his mother and tells her to join the theatre and then he constantly refers to his Amma as "tumri biwi". yeah, he shouldn't have said that........but his idea of respect is far too different from a normal human being.

Has it occurred to him that if his parents comments seem inappropriate then his desire to play amorous and very obvious games outside the sanctity of their very exclusive bedroom in different nooks of a joint family home is equally if not more so inappropriate. I understand that many may find his innovative romantic ideas entertaining but even the most daring of men will observe a modicum of modesty in the common areas of their parents home, won't they? well, the CVs have established the fact that krishna and sakthi r sexually obsessed men many a time......but the difference between them is that krishna wants it only from his wife...😊 and also that he can put an iron control on himself if the situation is not going smoothly.....

and he is a man who believes that nobody should interfere in husband-wife matters, so he never excepted piyasia to disclose such a matter and he got angry.........

It is constantly being implied that Krishna is being redeemed and transformed by Pratigya ' her presence, her influence, her wise talks. The changeover from the ill-mannered thug to the civilized gentleman

I am sorry but if this newly found civility and respect can only be shown to his sasural who constantly disrespect him and treat him as persona non-grata while his own family is treated by him with less than admirable civility then this is not real transformation for me. well, i would say he doesn't respect them when he is angry as is the case with his behavior towards his parents.......he repeatedly called shyamji 'baap' even after pratigya requested him not to do so..............😕 and he just don't think even a little about adarsh.....he had doubts on adarsh being man enough...u can see that from his reaction to komal's pregnancy...and sadly that shows his lack of love for komal also............😡

He acts less like a son of that house and more like a guest that has a direct access to the family treasure chest. If their behaviour really bothers him then he should take his wife and LEAVE instead of constantly doing provocative things, getting the ire of his parents and then "dissing" them for it.

Adarsh bought his entire family gifts. He has never ever given his family lip for his wife or anyone else. Aman is the same yet Krishna's transformation is lacking in this regard. It does not matter if is family is the mob, it does not matter if saas-bahu conflict is alive and kicking, the thing that drew me to Krishna was the way he balanced his duties as a son with his desire to be a loving husband. This new Krishna is unpalatable and I hope the CVs don't make this worse. well, krishna has to learn the real meaning of life the hard way.........we r going to see him in more gray shades bordering at the edges of black in future too......hope the CVs don't prolong his transformation..........

I can assume that this ill behaviour of Krishna in his father's home is all leading up to a major showdown which sees Kriya out of TN ' either voluntarily or otherwise.

I would much rather the showdown be about Krishna's predicament ' the fact that his father has not given him the necessary tools to find a job or teach any child he might have and his constant financial dependence on SS.

I would rather the showdown NOT BE about their antagonism for Pratigya or something equally corny. sadly i think this is going to be shown.........the CVs have deluded themselves to think that if he does anything for pratigya (even insult his family) the audience would lap it up enthusiastically as we r all krishna's deewaanis and love him for his love for pratigya................

Krishna has always been my main draw to this show and while I feel that his bolder aggressive side as a man has become "mushy and timid" since he started getting some, I hope that at least his playful side as a son is salvaged so that it can provide us with some entertainment as before. yes, but he can't just shrug off more than 20 years of life quickly......the CVs have shown us that krishna is capable of redemption as he has the capacity to love and also there is no denying that he is innocent in his heart................he reacts according to his instincts and beliefs......he never does bad for the purpose of doing bad(and that is another difference between him and sakthi) bec his intentions r good((we can forget what he did to angad to frame adarsh, bec honestly i don't care😆)and that i believe is his major plus)....he does what he see is correct which may not be correct at all according to others............he will grow.......but it will take time.............hope the CVs don't drag it.............

Hope

Edited by dhakarn - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful

HOW MUCH LONGER??

Diwali gifts for wifey - using father's money and credit. If he has reformed enough to buy his wife gifts for Diwali can he not be shown to buy something for his mother and his grandmother at least, if not for bauji and kesar?

Amma's expectation was reasonable as a mother yet his response was uncaring. Then the most audacious comment - don't ruin my wife's Diwali. Never you fear, fair Krishna, your sasural has enough arsenal to do that singlehandedly.

Nice post. Even I felt bad when he did not bring any gift for rest of the family. The way he taunted Ammaji saying "Ask your husband for gifts" was downright disgusting. (To be honest, I liked that scene when I watched it).
I was just watching previous episodes, and I observed that krishna has no concern for anybody even then. He was rude to daadiji, kesar, and even Ammaji. He only liked SS and did not bother much about sakthi.
I dont think he has changed from that much, except that now he likes pratigya the most, so he is concerned only about her.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Acco to K, P is his responsibility. He wants to make his wify happy on her 1st deewali. What's wrong in that, why do we talk and blame like a saas(amma) who feels jealous on her DIL? Moreover I cannot understand one point being raised here that, when ever K does anything for P, he is criticised of lost identity/personality or disrespecting his parents. My understanding is that respect and love for wife is not disrespect to the parents. K thinks that he has the right to spend his father's money as a son and same way he feels that P is his responsibility as his wife. You are absolutely correct. He just wants his wife to be happy. Before marriage also he used to roam around and food all without paying money and that behind also he was behind pratigya. Now since he is married he is in the house. Remember the first scene when they shows his house the servants were surprised to see him in house at daytime. U cann;t change a person in one day it is gradual process and he is changing for good but it takes time be patient,.the cv's are doing a wonderful job in that. they r also making changes in Pratigya too. that is good. both have to change a little to understand each other.

He is a gem of a person, though he felt that his parents were wrong in certain incidents, he stood with them and made P to understand his position too. K tried to explain his parents' POV to P, when the rangoli was washed off .(even though he understood that his parents were wrong). yeap u r correct. He is the only support in the jungle house for pratigya if he don;t talk like this pratigya will be miserable. even though kesar and dadi likes her they don;t have voice to support her. so he is the husband and he has to do and morover he loves her. what is wrong with that.

Saying K to start thinking about earning and financially independent is different but always criticising him for loving/respecting his wife or P for wearing chiffon saries and jewels of SS doesn't look objective. It's my POV. Just for the reason that you live in a house and wear/eat same like the ppl in that house, you should be silent against all the injustices happening in that house ?????. I don't think her intentions were bad while objecting the cruelty or violence.Ya completely agree with u.

K is also taunted like anything by his parent. If you think that his parents do that with concern and love, take this also as an expression of love by K. It is the culture of this house.Ya it is he or Pratigya. He is the only one who replies them back. somepoint you have to talk back. he have ignored all the small dramas his mom showed in front of pratigya. we all know how his mom treats pratigya the way she calls her maharani and all.

Till y day, he used to spend lavishly on his fathers' money and he did not have the thought to buy anything for his family. Now he does the same but the difference is he .ya that is correct. until yesterday it was not a problem. now he is married he is not earning by his own for the family it has become problem. he will change but it will take time. pratigya will change him for good.

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