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Originally posted by: premprem1

but... krishna will only respect them if his parents respect pratigya... so why ont they justrespect pratigya first.. and then his parents blame everything on pratigya that she did everything they should look at themselves first and see what they are doing wrong....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont call my baba disrespectful please!!! all he is doing is taking pratigya's side and he should!

Originally posted by: magesh18

Nice post. Even I felt bad when he did not bring any gift for rest of the family. The way he taunted Ammaji saying "Ask your husband for gifts" was downright disgusting. (To be honest, I liked that scene when I watched it).

I was just watching previous episodes, and I observed that krishna has no concern for anybody even then. He was rude to daadiji, kesar, and even Ammaji. He only liked SS and did not bother much about sakthi.

I dont think he has changed from that much, except that now he likes pratigya the most, so he is concerned only about her.

Originally posted by: dhakarn

but we were happy when he said his famous one liner 'parampara gayi tel lene' , many(including me) felt he is THE HERO, who will discard anything with complete disregard to have his love.

pampered children say provocative things as above. they seek to show and awe and in n Krishna' case mission accomplished. his statement above was not about insulting his parents but mocking conventional beliefs that he felt were farcial. all of us have had a desire at some point of time in our lives to do that. but his comments lately have been directly insulting. he aims and shoots. his comments are inappropriate when viewed in a parent-child relationship and when delivered by someone who is living in his father's house, eating his father's food, and squandering his father's money. All I am saying is when he does civilized things so to speak he only does it for Pratigya and his sasural.

• he insults his mother and tells her to join the theatre and then he constantly refers to his Amma as "tumri biwi". yeah, he shouldn't have said that........but his idea of respect is far too different from a normal human being. and my point is wasn't pratigya supposed to be the corrective influence? was a "eye opening" word said for his own betterment after?
  

and he is a man who believes that nobody should interfere in husband-wife matters, so he never excepted piyasia to disclose such a matter and he got angry.........

well then he should have kept those matters private don't you think? isn't that what we would do in real life? he does not feel offended as he is a self declared shameless person but if he argues to defend his wife's modesty he should respect that modesty by being private. I'm sorry to say this but shouldn't pratigya tell him to take it inside too? sorry I have higher expectations from her than him as she is poised as the corrective influence. he will do anything for her so I think she should continue to express her opinions the way she always has in the past.

he repeatedly called shyamji 'baap' even after pratigya requested him not to do so..............😕he has never insulted shyam to his face though shyam was deserving on multiple occasions. he has insulted his own father to his face even though his father in his own conservative way was correct on many instances.

I guess it leads me to question what is the goal of Krishna's transformation?
to see him be a civilized mate - I am sorry that is not true transformation just a romantic version of henpecked

is it to see him become a more civilized person - well in his own rustic ways he observed many societal norms starting at home. the loss of his rustic ways takes away his charm and makes his transformation seem like a compromise than and enhancement of self

Acco to K, P is his responsibility. He wants to make his wify happy on her 1^st deewali. What's wrong in that, why do we talk and blame like a saas(amma) who feels jealous on her DIL?

Moreover I cannot understand one point being raised here that, when ever K does anything for P, he is criticised of lost identity/personality or disrespecting his parents. My understanding is that respect and love for wife is not disrespect to the parents. K thinks that he has the right to spend his father's money as a son and same way he feels that P is his responsibility as his wife.

He is a gem of a person, though he felt that his parents were wrong in certain incidents, he stood with them and made P to understand his position too. K tried to explain his parents' POV to P, when the rangoli was washed off .(even though he understood that his parents were wrong).

We all wanted P not to attend her sis marriage as her in-laws were humiliated. We wanted K to get angry against his father's humiliation at the hands of the IG and against saxsena for silently watching the humiliation. We want P and K to carry out their responsibility as son and DIL. But we don't want k to spend his father's money and want him (& P)to feel guilty about it.

Saying K to start thinking about earning and financially independent is different but always criticising him for loving/respecting his wife or P for wearing chiffon saries and jewels of SS doesn't look objective. It's my POV. Just for the reason that you live in a house and wear/eat same like the ppl in that house, you should be silent against all the injustices happening in that house ?????. I don't think her intentions were bad while objecting the cruelty or violence.

K is also taunted like anything by his parent. If you think that his parents do that with concern and love, take this also as an expression of love by K. It is the culture of this house.

Till y day, he used to spend lavishly on his fathers' money and he did not have the thought to buy anything for his family. Now he does the same but the difference is he is married to P. He didn't do it stealthily rather he did it with lots of proud.

How cutely he said to his mom that it's his babuji to buy for her. He also suggests his father to make the women of this house feel happy for the real peace.

This is the house which doesn't have any values at all, which disrespect & humiliate anybody for any reason. They do anything for their selfish motives -for that they even kill anyone. Infact poor K is still ignorant of their true colours and we should feel bad for that.

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

And that is my point magesh. there is this constant implication that he has reformed and I find that is not evident.

I will like my wife's friends and diss my wife's enemies even if they are my parents even if my parents have not doing anything to me personally? - is that his philopsophy these days?

I find it odd that CVs show his efforts at transformation selectively only around pratigya. he seems to desperate to please and hesitant to displease all the time. seems robotic.

Hi Hope, another great post! I like how you step back and look things differently.

I agree! I'm not sure if I would like to see Krishna following all cultured cultures, where there is so little recognition of his individuality. Neither I'm looking for Kriya move out. It will kill the very theme of the story.

Stereotypically, K & P are struggling everyday to adjust with the absurd family they are living in with, the easiest rescue is to move out! - Everyone knows the truth: even a kid can sense it.

But after all it's a soap! Lets say they move out? Then what? Sax's rona dhona? Mathurs 'We're Socially Superior' attitude ? Kriya moment 24/7? CVs will be boring people. K directly walking into the social medians to entirely tear down his quirk? Wouldn't that be too dramatic and predictable?

The soap is about how two families with totally assorted backgrounds got related, 1001 setbacks they face, how the protagonist of the story ( with the help of her backer) handle it to resolve it selflessly ( not only for her cause). I wouldn't expect the protag to separate K from his family, who he loves dearly no matter what!

What we need to understand is that in the wrong environment, SS & Amma's lives are as vulnerable as K & P's lives. Thakurs' fear of losing their ladlaa Baba for the bitter better. Doing stories about a unique theme like that in MKAP is hard. Killing stories about following standard practice is easy. There was a reason why everyone liked K's moral fiber in spite of his character being quite dark! His standpoint rocked! He was unpolished, yet sharp! He was positive! His unconditional love (to P & his family)! I don't want Baba to lose the original Krishna-quality that we all loved - it will eventually erode to nothing, the very style on which MKAP was based on. - going beyond the box than a set soap with a doting husband, patibrata wife..good saas bahu rishta..another ghar ghar ki kahani-typical!. 😛

Change is good! K should recognize how he cannot always spin around Prats not working? While he is mooching off of SS's money on an as-needed basis, he better at least respect them (the source) than criticizing them. He will be embarrassing himself doing that.

Anyways CVs are making K look like completely defeated after marrying P and locked into a situation that will leave him mentally shattered if she leaves. A cliched drama? But it sells?