Sachai sachai sachai

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sachai kisse achchi nahi lagti, batao?

People always support the truth when it's on their OWN terms. To some extent, almost each individual on this show is right on his/her own terms.

Pratigya standing up for Kesar and pushing Kesar to write the report up in right. She supported the truth and that is that Kesar was abused and her baby was MURDERED.
But then Prats bought Kesar right back to the house of these murderers. Realistically, you shouldn't bring back a victim to the hands of it's abusers especially if you want the victim to stand strong. IF the victim is brought back, she will be cornered which Kesar was so how can Prats expect Kesar to keep the stand?

If truth is to be valued over family ties and anything really then why hide the fact that Adarsh was at the scene of the crime with the intent to fight with Angad? Why let yourself be blackmailed by hiding the truth that Prats was kidnapped? Is THIS the way to support the truth?!

Not helping Angad back up is as good as murdering him so why isn't Professor in jail? He had a hand in this crime just like Amma had a hand in killing Kesar's unborn baby as did Adarsh. Why aren't they in jail?

I find Shyamji to be the MOST hypocritical character on this show. He stands with this sachaai bashaan and fills up the ears of his daughter of things he doesn't even apply in his own life.

Shyamji, pehle khud sachai ka samna kijiye phir kissi aur ko sachai ka saath dene ke bashaan dijiye.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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So true Rahm.😊

In fact I wrote on another post that I have this feeling Proff is using his daughter P, to score marks with the Thakurs for his moo kala incident.

Also before he starts looking at other people, and whether they adhere to truth or not, he needs to look at his own home and children. Especially his daughters. Time after time they had hidden the truth from him, and lied through their teeth while looking him in the eyes - I am talking about P hiding things about Angad harassing her and Arushi when they went out to the civil lines, lying about Krishna gifting her the Sari and her then wearing it to meet him and etc..... In fact even when he should have been teaching her to fight back maybe by filing a complaint (well he does advise her to go to the police without hesitation now😃), he instead was planning to run away (when he and P were on the bus to banares).....P is still paying some price for those lies and actions to this day. So I could not believe my ears when she told her sister to LLIE about her harassment from Shakti. Did she not learn?😲....the question as to why the Saxes even let Arushi come to that place after the moo kala is also very relevant and again shows their mentality.

I think the best thing Proff could do is let his kids run their own life without his help. Disturbingly, P listens to him without questionning much of anything. Whereas in every other thing, she will question it to death.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Dreamygal, thanks! I agree with you.

I believe the best thing Prats can do is not to take her father's advice. You bring up some good points about lying and whatnot.

The hypocrisy gets to me. If they were to show Prats and her family like this then they should have done it without the hypocrisy. It makes it hard to respect the things that they are doing.

Shyamji just really pissed me off today. I really dislike him.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rahm

Dreamygal, thanks! I agree with you.

I believe the best thing Prats can do is not to take her father's advice. You bring up some good points about lying and whatnot.

The hypocrisy gets to me. If they were to show Prats and her family like this then they should have done it without the hypocrisy. It makes it hard to respect the things that they are doing.

Shyamji just really pissed me off today. I really dislike him.

There are good things abut the show but when they keep showing the Saxes version of truth - whenit suits them, well you can't help but shout at the TV screen.
I honestly think the producers want to show that this family means well, but want to show that even they can get it wrong.......The saying people living in glass houses should not cast stones at others is apt. Esepcially in the last few months, the Proff and his son have murdered someone, the lying about the reasons for blackmail and etc....it just shows that even the family that proclaims to be whiter than white have dirty secrets. I just wish the Proff would remember these once in a while and then temper his own thinking. I never minded him, always laughing at him relying on P, but since his half baked advice at the hospital (where he did not think once about the repercussion at all - that alone beggers belief, what kind of a parent can advise their daughter and not even recall the house she lives in? ) I just can't look at him like that anymore.
For such an educated man, he did not once say there are proper ways to handle this matter, we must do everything toe nsure Kesar is protected and etc. Nope. His version of the sachai reared it's head and bedamned any one else standing there.
If he had advised her accordingly, the result would have been different. Kesar would have been out of that house and no one would have forced her to retract her statement so that horrible and evil woman and her son would have paid the price for their actions. As it is it has left Kesar vulnerbale and feotal killing swept under the carpet. Now P is scared and I don't want to see anything bad happen to her - because people will say it is the result of her impulsive action. The good intention was there, but the execution failed.
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Dreamygal,

Yeah, Saxes version of the truth is pretty much when it helps them. I understand that no family is perfect, but when you're going to give a bashaan on sachai and murder, you need to take a long hard look at yourself and make sure you haven't done the same. Prof not helping Angad is as good as murdering him (Shakti murdered the baby) and Adarsh not stopping it is as good as helping with the murder (Amma not stopping Shakti).

I've always disliked Professors advice because it wasn't completely practical, but I had respect for him. When he let Angadwa blackmail him, I lost all respect for him. If he was really concerned about his daughter's future, the first thing he should have done is called her over and told her everything and then bring Krishna into it and make sure he is told. That would have been upholding the truth.

Instead he hid the truth from his daughter who was doing grave injustice to a man who loved her (Prof knew this and still hid the truth!) because she didn't know the truth. Luckily Prats finds out and then he makes her swear to hide the truth! What in the world?! Did he think it would never come out just because Angadwa was dead? His two minions were still alive. What was stopping them from filling Shakti's ears?

And then the dumb hospital advice. How about file the report and come with Kesar here? THAT would have been upholding the truth. You do not take a victim back to her abuser, that only makes it worse.

A lot of people criticized the fact that some of us thought that Prats should consult with Krishna. I still believe that Prats should have taken Kesar elsewhere and contacted Krishna (how about leave a message on Chandu's phone?) and then go from there. Yes, she could have filed the report as well and then consulted with Krishna. I don't care which way she did as long as she did consult him and take Kesar away from that house. However, as far as police go, it really doesn't help as they are under SS and Amma and Shakti would have been out either way.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rahm

Dreamygal,

Yeah, Saxes version of the truth is pretty much when it helps them. Yes. I understand that no family is perfect, but when you're going to give a bashaan on sachai and murder, you need to take a long hard look at yourself and make sure you haven't done the same.👍🏼. Prof not helping Angad is as good as murdering him (Shakti murdered the baby) and Adarsh not stopping it is as good as helping with the murder (Amma not stopping Shakti).

I've always disliked Professors advice because it wasn't completely practical, but I had respect for him. When he let Angadwa blackmail him, I lost all respect for him. If he was really concerned about his daughter's future, the first thing he should have done is called her over and told her everything and then bring Krishna into it and make sure he is told. That would have been upholding the truth. I agree. The best thing would have been to tell the truth to Krishna right there and then. After all, P didn't care for him at that stage, nor did she consider it a real marriage so why were they adamant about saving the marriage?😲...inconsistencies after inconsistencies..

Instead he hid the truth from his daughter who was doing grave injustice to a man who loved her (Prof knew this and still hid the truth!) because she didn't know the truth. Luckily Prats finds out and then he makes her swear to hide the truth! What in the world?! Did he think it would never come out just because Angadwa was dead? His two minions were still alive. What was stopping them from filling Shakti's ears?..anyone could see it was leading to court, where it will be revealed. Not once did anyone give consideration for the man who's heart and soul P was. Where was their great concern about izzat, btw? would it not have been better to tell him privately rather than have it blaringly announced in court?...once again those Saxes😒

And then the dumb hospital advice. How about file the report and come with Kesar here? THAT would have been upholding the truth. You do not take a victim back to her abuser, that only makes it worse. 👏

A lot of people criticized the fact that some of us thought that Prats should consult with Krishna. I thought she should, as well. Everyone keeps pointing out their love and etc but forget that you need to show mutual respect, love and consideration. I still believe that Prats should have taken Kesar elsewhere and contacted Krishna (how about leave a message on Chandu's phone?) and then go from there. Yes, she could have filed the report as well and then consulted with Krishna. I don't care which way she did as long as she did consult him and take Kesar away from that house. However, as far as police go, it really doesn't help as they are under SS and Amma and Shakti would have been out either way. This is what I meant in my earlier post, did her father not even consider this at all? we can excuse her, say she is young, heat of the moment and etc...but her father didn't even think once about the action being doomed. I am not saying something shouldn't have been done but it should have been thought through. Ok he told her to call the police and etc then why didn't he say 'come home straight with Kesar, do not go back to the Thakurs'...I would have👏 because that was a sensible advice.

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Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

There are good things abut the show but when they keep showing the Saxes version of truth - whenit suits them, well you can't help but shout at the TV screen.
I honestly think the producers want to show that this family means well, but want to show that even they can get it wrong.......The saying people living in glass houses should not cast stones at others is apt. Esepcially in the last few months, the Proff and his son have murdered someone, the lying about the reasons for blackmail and etc....it just shows that even the family that proclaims to be whiter than white have dirty secrets. I just wish the Proff would remember these once in a while and then temper his own thinking. I never minded him, always laughing at him relying on P, but since his half baked advice at the hospital (where he did not think once about the repercussion at all - that alone beggers belief, what kind of a parent can advise their daughter and not even recall the house she lives in? ) I just can't look at him like that anymore.
For such an educated man, he did not once say there are proper ways to handle this matter, we must do everything toe nsure Kesar is protected and etc. Nope. His version of the sachai reared it's head and bedamned any one else standing there.
If he had advised her accordingly, the result would have been different. Kesar would have been out of that house and no one would have forced her to retract her statement so that horrible and evil woman and her son would have paid the price for their actions. As it is it has left Kesar vulnerbale and feotal killing swept under the carpet. Now P is scared and I don't want to see anything bad happen to her - because people will say it is the result of her impulsive action. The good intention was there, but the execution failed.

Hey DG, I red that underline part and I had a flash back to the beginning of the show. when he went to collect pratz, from the train station, he got home stick his head outside of his front door to see if Angad, and his gang follow them home, that looks on his face, was of a feeble minded.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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agree with u dear. we all want truth...and love ur topic
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agree to some extent.....but we must not forget that syamji is a father and angad blackmailed him with pron photographs of his daughter of which nonexixtence he didn't know.....and he has on more daughter to look after too....her future......so he bowed down to him for his fear of badnaami of his daughters.......which any middle class father would do.............and we must not forget that adarsh and syamji r not criminal minded persons like thakurs........but i agree that pratigya and arushi r doing big mistake by keeping the thing about sakthi from the family...................
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

So true Rahm.😊

In fact I wrote on another post that I have this feeling Proff is using his daughter P, to score marks with the Thakurs for his moo kala incident.

Also before he starts looking at other people, and whether they adhere to truth or not, he needs to look at his own home and children. Especially his daughters. Time after time they had hidden the truth from him, and lied through their teeth while looking him in the eyes - I am talking about P hiding things about Angad harassing her and Arushi when they went out to the civil lines, lying about Krishna gifting her the Sari and her then wearing it to meet him and etc..... In fact even when he should have been teaching her to fight back maybe by filing a complaint (well he does advise her to go to the police without hesitation now😃), he instead was planning to run away (when he and P were on the bus to banares).....P is still paying some price for those lies and actions to this day. So I could not believe my ears when she told her sister to LLIE about her harassment from Shakti. Did she not learn?😲....the question as to why the Saxes even let Arushi come to that place after the moo kala is also very relevant and again shows their mentality.

I think the best thing Proff could do is let his kids run their own life without his help. Disturbingly, P listens to him without questionning much of anything. Whereas in every other thing, she will question it to death.



DG,


It is my feeling that she listens to him with bated breath bec he says what she wants to hear and never contradicts her stand ,never tries to point out that when one plays right/wrong,truth/lies game,it may end up blowing on the innocent by standers and they will not take kindly to such things...Never says that there is such a thing as family,relation's and ur duty towards them is of equal importance as ur allegiance to truth ...

Never says, the path of truth is difficult..do not force/expect/canvass one and all to follow such a path...do not expect approbation for ur conviction,when ur conviction only brings turmoil and turbulence into their lives ...


How come Aarushi and Adarsh are not infected by this bug ..Did they not get to hear about all the truth Poems..

If truth is valued so much , then why are there so many skeletons in Sax's closet ??
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