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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: tanthya



The problem , Binny was that Kesar was never the part of human race..she was always everybody's punching bag ...so her feelings were never played a part ..on the other hand Amma has always ruled the roost ..and she has pampered Komal ..so her allegiance will be with Amma ..Secondly..Komal i have always felt is a child woman ....she still has not acquired the sensitiveness, gentleness and kindness of a woman...


Kesar is like a ball..she is getting kicked around..and she passively follows the path in which she is kicked ..not only is she afraid but she also seems to be building some castle re Shakthi ..[fooled by his DARRRAMA ]


You might kill me for saying so ...but I really thought that he is capable fo affection..witness the fact how he asked Kesar to withdraw the case against Amma [not against him ]..and also y'day when Amma was doing nautanki ..he will go and tell Amma..don't worry .I ll accept the blame ...Nothing will happen to u ...This Guy is capable of love...but why does he hate Kesar so ?? it just cant be the color ??

I have to disagree Komal is capable of thinking beyond her relations supporting what is correct if she chooses to I can still remember how she went against her mother in support of prats after the kidnapping truth came out, she was even willing to file a complaint against her family members if they ever tried to kill prats again. I want to know what is the difference in this situation before they tried to kill prats, but here they not only beat a pregnant women but have killed her unborn child ( even if they did not mean to it's hard to believe they did not know the consequences of beating a women about to give birth) The situations are not too different except for the fact that it was not her but prats who filed the complaint against their crime.

I agree Komal is very childish she only understands an issue completely when someone explains things to her calmly, like Adarsh did about prats situation.

I actaully agree S is capable of showing emotions do you remember when he stood clenching his teeth in the hospital worried for Krishna he was practically in tears. According to me Kesar may remind him of his own shortcomings, he was forced to marry her he did not have the courage to stand up to his father and refuse, resist, and choose his life partner. I truly don't think it's just her color she is a kind, loving, caring women, by now he understands this which is why he knows emotions is the only way to get her on his side.


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Posted: 15 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: kriyalove79

dunno whts going on but if AMMA and Sakti is going to jail then this drama is going to be take 2 weeks 😡 no kriya till that 🤢😡



They are going to station..may get bail ..and return ..but Kriya will not be on for some days ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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This what annoyed me, abuse women, can change their life so much, but yet so many fail to take the righ stand, Pratz, spoken to her told her what her hubby is doing, didn't change, yet a child like komal, talked her into doing something wrong.
You must remember Kesar has been abused systematically for years and in front of people who should have protected her. In effect, it became the norm for her. She knows of no other way of life. Anything different is the great unknown and unfamiliar and fear takes her over. It is better to stay where she knows people, she knows what to expect than to go somewhere into the unknown.
Sadly, this is classic of battered woman. A little kindness is very powerful to them especially if it comes from the abuser. The relationship is an addiction, with fear as the driving force. These women have very low self esteem, they never had to think or provide something for themselves. In many, many cases women complain and then withdraw it - they say I made a mistake, he said he will never hit me - it was a one off, he promised, he cried, he repented, he is dying without me and needs me....and so on. It is even worse when children are involved. This is a cycle that is repeated until something breaks - sometimes death occurs as a release other times a lightbulb goes of and the battered person realises the depth of her nightmare with clarity like she never had.

So please, have a little sympathy for Kesar, she is a true reflection of battered women out there with very little hope, the life dying inside them day by day. What we take for granted - liberty, freedom of speech and thought, to them is the nirvaana only death can provide.
What a waste of humanity. They need understanding, someone like Pratigya and Komal for that matter and anyone else who said, why isn't she taking action, we are with you, do this because it is right and this is wrong - it is all rubbish!!....The need for action must come from Kesar (and women like her). ....Nothing else will set her or them free. For only they can fight for themselves. They are only one who can take that stand and tell the world what atrocites had been committed. No one else can, neither I nor you.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: tanthya



The problem , Binny was that Kesar was never the part of human race..she was always everybody's punching bag ...so her feelings were never played a part ..on the other hand Amma has always ruled the roost ..and she has pampered Komal ..so her allegiance will be with Amma ..Secondly..Komal i have always felt is a child woman ....she still has not acquired the sensitiveness, gentleness and kindness of a woman...


Kesar is like a ball..she is getting kicked around..and she passively follows the path in which she is kicked ..not only is she afraid but she also seems to be building some castle re Shakthi ..[fooled by his DARRRAMA ]


You might kill me for saying so ...but I really thought that he is capable fo affection..witness the fact how he asked Kesar to withdraw the case against Amma [not against him ]..and also y'day when Amma was doing nautanki ..he will go and tell Amma..don't worry .I ll accept the blame ...Nothing will happen to u ...This Guy is capable of love...but why does he hate Kesar so ?? it just cant be the color ??



tanths

I thought so too😃 but when I saw how he loved Komal and again his explaining to Amma y'day. Deep down inside everyone of them is capable of love. The way he came to pick up Krishna at the hospital too. He loves SS too. Just hasn't had a good role model at home. Krishna somehow lucked out in some ways.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Binny1247

I have to disagree Komal is capable of thinking beyond her relations supporting what is correct if she chooses to I can still remember how she went against her mother in support of prats after the kidnapping truth came out, she was even willing to file a complaint against her family members if they ever tried to kill prats again. I want to know what is the difference in this situation before they tried to kill prats, but here they not only beat a pregnant women but have killed her unborn child ( even if they did not mean to it's hard to believe they did not know the consequences of beating a women about to give birth) The situations are not too different except for the fact that it was not her but prats who filed the complaint against their crime.

I agree Komal is very childish she only understands an issue completely when someone explains things to her calmly, like Adarsh did about prats situation.

I actaully agree S is capable of showing emotions do you remember when he stood clenching his teeth in the hospital worried for Krishna he was practically in tears. According to me Kesar may remind him of his own shortcomings, he was forced to marry her he did not have the courage to stand up to his father and refuse, resist, and choose his life partner. I truly don't think it's just her color she is a kind, loving, caring women, by now he understands this which is why he knows emotions is the only way to get her on his side.




She automatically did not support Pratigya, it was Adarsh who explained things to her , before Pratigya became the heroine in her eyes ....As for Kesar...let me say again ..Kesar was never thought to be a human .. I may sound coldblooded..but The fetus which dies was never seen by KOmal nor by anybody ..they never carried it,played with it ,looked at it ,,for them to deleop a connection..to them the child was an abstract ...In other words , No bonding had taken place between the child and family member's while there is a strong bond between Amma-Krishna, Amma-Komal ...Their instinct will push them in protecting this bond and not some bond which may or may not have come into fruit in the fullness of time .


In the first case , they cold bloodedly decided to kill Pratigya ..but here the intention was never to kill/hurt/harm the fetus ...the intention was to teach/scare Kesar a lesson/submission ..it went spectacularly wrong ..My contention is if instead of FIR..had SS taken over..he would have given a lesson to remember to this duo and Komal too would have been solidly behind Pratigya .....but by going Public..Pratigya has dented the image of the Thakur's [in the public eye]...hence her anger
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI



tanths

I thought so too😃 but when I saw how he loved Komal and again his explaining to Amma y'day. Deep down inside everyone of them is capable of love. The way he came to pick up Krishna at the hospital too. He loves SS too. Just hasn't had a good role model at home. Krishna somehow lucked out in some ways.



As binny said, it could be bec he was forced into this marriage ..it was a 'business' marriage with no love ...😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shabz.

komal never thinks logically :( and how can kesar give in so quickly? s murdered her child!! her number one aim should be to get justice for her lost baby. shakti not only killed this baby but he most probably killed her chances of ever becoming a mother.



Shabz,

Komal almost always thinks logically but teh reason may or may not be logical ....Why not ?? Shakthi had done away with four fetuses ..and Kesar still went on living with him, being his wife ...so how does one more make a difference ??
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaacheeSyna



I agree that Komal is used to kesar getting beaten....but don't you think that with a child being murdered...she would be affected...especially when she did warn them that she would hand them to the police when they were planning on burning prats alive...I agree that she doesn't want her own people in jail....but why is she not showing the confusion that krishna seems to be showing?

Thanks for detailing me about the scene...as I haven't watched the epi...hence didn't knew how it got executed!!....krishna's expressions definitely seems interesting in the precap...let's see what he does next!

She is a child herself, you can only hope she open her mouth, at the right time, with the right people around, and the right sort of words comes out.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanthya



She automatically did not support Pratigya, it was Adarsh who explained things to her , before Pratigya became the heroine in her eyes ....As for Kesar...let me say again ..Kesar was never thought to be a human .. I may sound coldblooded..but The fetus which dies was never seen by KOmal nor by anybody ..they never carried it,played with it ,looked at it ,,for them to deleop a connection..to them the child was an abstract ...In other words , No bonding had taken place between the child and family member's while there is a strong bond between Amma-Krishna, Amma-Komal ...Their instinct will push them in protecting this bond and not some bond which may or may not have come into fruit in the fullness of time .


In the first case , they cold bloodedly decided to kill Pratigya ..but here the intention was never to kill/hurt/harm the fetus ...the intention was to teach/scare Kesar a lesson/submission ..it went spectacularly wrong ..My contention is if instead of FIR..had SS taken over..he would have given a lesson to remember to this duo and Komal too would have been solidly behind Pratigya .....but by going Public..Pratigya has dented the image of the Thakur's [in the public eye]...hence her anger

Yes Komal always needs someone to explain the situation to her especially if the scenario goes against her family members but this time I doubt even Adarsh will be of much help because this does not have to do with Kriya but her mother who she may argue with but loves none the less.

No Tanthya not coldblooded but you are simply being realistic Kesar is seen as nothing but an object, and her child was of importance only because it would carry their family name forward. Yes SS wanted a grandchild but you are right bonding is extremely important it brings about emotions a fondness, necessity and love for another human being. As they say out of sight out of mind individuals easily forget those things which they do not continuously come across, though it hardly affects older people but a strong bond is necessary for an individual to remember someone despite them not being in front of their eyes. So I can understand their protectiveness of their mother when they first hear the news, but as they come to understand the seriousness of the situation and what Kesar has lost due to their family members the shackles of their own blood will loosen and they will be forced to support what is right not who they love.

I agee they did not intend to kill the child yet a murder is a murder planned or accidental hardly makes a difference, personally I think if she had witnessed the incident like she did with prats her reaction may have been a bit more different. I doubt it SS only cares about controlling Krishna and his elections if Amma and Shakti had reasoned with him he would have simply let them go as he has already done he not only cares about his public image but also the image Krishna has of him.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Binny1247

Yes Komal always needs someone to explain the situation to her especially if the scenario goes against her family members but this time I doubt even Adarsh will be of much help because this does not have to do with Kriya but her mother who she may argue with but loves none the less.

No Tanthya not coldblooded but you are simply being realistic Kesar is seen as nothing but an object, and her child was of importance only because it would carry their family name forward. Yes SS wanted a grandchild but you are right bonding is extremely important it brings about emotions a fondness, necessity and love for another human being. As they say out of sight out of mind individuals easily forget those things which they do not continuously come across, though it hardly affects older people but a strong bond is necessary for an individual to remember someone despite them not being in front of their eyes. So I can understand their protectiveness of their mother when they first hear the news, but as they come to understand the seriousness of the situation and what Kesar has lost due to their family members the shackles of their own blood will loosen and they will be forced to support what is right not who they love.

I agee they did not intend to kill the child yet a murder is a murder planned or accidental hardly makes a difference, personally I think if she had witnessed the incident like she did with prats her reaction may have been a bit more different. I doubt it SS only cares about controlling Krishna and his elections if Amma and Shakti had reasoned with him he would have simply let them go as he has already done he not only cares about his public image but also the image Krishna has of him.



Binny,

But she was shocked, She visibly wavered when she heard that the Baby died..but the next moment Filial love asserted and she mulishly stuck to her stand....

This incident is the eye opener...Although both Krishna and Komal have refused to accept the complicity of their Mother ,when further Truths tumble out, they will not be shocked and will unhesitatingly accept the truth ..leading to a weakening if not an outright break of relationship between the Mother and Off spring ...

Ss has mourned the death of the baby , as his lineage has taken a set back..he has not mourned for the baby as a expectant Grandfather ...for him POwer,Prestige takes precedence over a death of an unborn child ...

He wants Krishna by his side or neutralized bec Krishna has the charisma,tact,ruthlessness and intelligence to make or break him !!

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