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Posted: 15 years ago
#81

Originally Posted By Soapbubble :


First of all, how beautifully the creatives have shot this entire lot of scenes! Beautiful - so sensitive, so charged, so well put together! Creatives thank you for this and for such wonderful characters and actors.

Now that I have that out of the way 😆😆, what I wanted to discuss was: Why is Krishna so upset?

Part of the anger is because he was kept in the dark over this whole matter. Part of it was he felt cheated. One point that was raised by both the Thakurs and Krishna that she relied on his love to cheat and cuckold him - marry him when she wasn't 'pure'.
But now that Prats has told him fairly clearly what happened, how she saw this hand with her name on it, how she thought it was he that had kidnapped her.. he is still a little upset. We are all a little upset at that stance. Yes, most (Indian) men would like their wives to be pure. There is a huge 'virginity' issue. But in this case, even if Pratigya had been raped, we feel bad if Krishna of all people were to blame her for something that is NOT HER FAULT.

However, coming to that understanding is easier said than done. It's not a simple matter of your wife being 'pure'. For Krishna, a man who sees himself as powerful, as a strong man, as a protector - it must be beyond torture to IMAGINE his wife in the power of another man. The very idea is agonising him, tearing him apart. He is angry because he didn't even KNOW about it, leave alone able to DO anything about it. If Angad had been alive, he could have ripped him apart with his bare hands and choked the life out of him. Now even that is not possible. Krishna is tormented, tortured by those images, by the idea of HIS Pratigya at the mercy of a darinda like Angad. It is very understandable.



So I feel, Krishna is not rejecting PRatigya because she's impure and not worthy of him but for more complex reasons. He has heard Pratigya tell him what happened but he has not been able to internalise or process that. He is still being tormented by HIS imaginings, by the would-haves, could-haves.
It will take a while for him to recover his strength, for him to come to terms with the fact that NOTHING happened. It will take him a while to get up on that bike, zoom off in search of Lucky and Jugnu, beat the crap out of them and ask them what happened. It will take him a little while to heal and see Pratigya again in a normal way. Till then, I'm afraid he will walk away from Pratigya, avoid her because as he himself said 'tumse pyar jo karte hain'.


Krishna has found now that he loves Pratigya even more than he thought. He is also dealing with the NEW KRISHNA that is emerging in these new circumstances. The new Krishna and the changed PRatigya who'll form a Kriya that even we didn't dare hope for! 😳😳😍



Bubble ,

Oh I so loved ur analysis .....I have posted it here cos I feel it will provide answer's to many q posed here ...Hope u don't mind ....Again let me say A Superb post ..👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
#82

that was nice of u tantha..to get the post here,..

I had missed it..Bubble..a read worth a huge applause!!!
he is shattered "for more complex reasons"..how true!! great analysis n details!!
thank u sooo much!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Fantastic Post Tanthya

SS telling abt a woman similar to Pratigya obviously is the next storyline. And the questions posed by you make a lot of sense. Chances are that Aman is related to the Thakurs and quite possible Ghanti Dai cld have decided to to take the maun vrath since then . It cld be the reason she is so sympathetic towards Pratigya as she must remind her of that other woman.

If Aman is related to the Thakurs then I am depressed. If the article is to be believed Aman is a lead for Aarushi which means Aarushi will end up in the Thakur parivaar which means she won't get married and quit the show.

So after winning over Krishna, it cld be that Pratigya's new Pratigya will be to uncover the mystery of this woman and then eventually bring Aman into the family if he is related to them
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Now regarding the bedroom scene. Krishna looked like a shattered porcelain doll. Thank the lord that Pratagiya did mention the reasons for her marriage but i think all those things just reached Baba's ears but never registered.

I liked that u had words of praise for Pratigya but i am still not ready to forgive her. Krishna should continue with the cold treatment.



Thank U KC...😃..

Aman and aarushi..ab what new kahani is this...he was a parallel lead but there was no mention of him teaming with Aarushi ...

he comes for straightening the Thakurs ....As for Aman, I am beginning to think that there is a strong and hidden connection betwn him and Thakurs ...as to the type of connection..it is wide open ..

Yesssssss! we are entering detectivegiri ..I am curious to know about that female and also Dadi's silence..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#84
U got the loopholes in the current track..n even started guessing about the upcoming tracks!! :-))))
Good!! ..u keep the thread interesting!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#85
present Ma'am,,,,,,, i hope i am not too late😉
ok back to ur post it wont be new thing for u to hear that very well written saaithya.... ur not only a gud writer but for me ur having great sense of humor and the 2nd trait couple with 1st one makes rocking outcomes like these. 👏
now coming towards the episode.... it wont be surprisng to say that the best part wa sbetween kriya.... i loved teh way she felt his pain.. she hasnt fallen in love but has started recognising his love.. she has startted developing feeling though it was symathy at teh moment but then gradually it will turn into love.....
regarding your questions... well the moment i heard ss revealing truth about his bro same question struck my mind.. initially i though she wa stalking about ghantilaal....( i know i am too bad when it comes ot guessing part) but then when he revealed whole incident i got the clear idea ghnatii laal would have felt really bad and that is eth reason she has stopped talking to them but then what did it give her....nohting did she stopped talking to them... nahi not at all.. its just she has started talking in othee way... so what was teh difference.....
ok now ur question that where could be his bro .... at Antartica i would say.......😈 coz these kinds of ppl should be left alone to some space....
ur question about his reentry... um i cant say anything at the moment . currently prats is being trouble dby ss and family so there is no spaca for othe rppl they are enough for her...
and ur amumaan about aman mathur.... ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nahi rey he cant be 4m their family they would get a heartattack if he would be their relative......
chal i think this is enough to eat ur brain at the moment
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Posted: 15 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: SAM2U

@ tanthya, Thanks for such a lovely post.

Well the dawn that you mentioned is still far far away. I have to salute her courage. From seeing krishna leave that court house to Blackening of her face and her fathers face ( the ultimate humiliations), To See a gun pointed at her face, To the allegations...........She still is a human.

Still that girl had the courage to tell him what happened, That was her stance since the journey she began with him. Never wavered from her stance no matter what. The dawn is far away her honor is questioned by her husband and that defies his tall claim of love. How she cop with this situation remains to be seen. She understood him correctly from day one but he did not.



Thank u Sam ,


I did tell you..Pratigya is strong Girl and she will weather it out ....

Her honor is not questioned , her capability of telling the whole truth is being questioned [there is a fine difference here ]...and if purity is the matter here ....then Krishna would not have stopped the other Thakur's when they went yakkety yakk .....remember this point..she was being thrown out .....if purity was the matter ..there was no need to stop her from being kicked , he held her and brought her in AFTER knowing that she spent a night in the honorable Angad's company ...Purity is not the question here ..betrayal and cuckolded is ..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: waniya_fatima

present Ma'am,,,,,,, i hope i am not too late😉

ok back to ur post it wont be new thing for u to hear that very well written saaithya.... ur not only a gud writer but for me ur having great sense of humor and the 2nd trait couple with 1st one makes rocking outcomes like these. 👏
now coming towards the episode.... it wont be surprisng to say that the best part wa sbetween kriya.... i loved teh way she felt his pain.. she hasnt fallen in love but has started recognising his love.. she has startted developing feeling though it was symathy at teh moment but then gradually it will turn into love.....
regarding your questions... well the moment i heard ss revealing truth about his bro same question struck my mind.. initially i though she wa stalking about ghantilaal....( i know i am too bad when it comes ot guessing part) but then when he revealed whole incident i got the clear idea ghnatii laal would have felt really bad and that is eth reason she has stopped talking to them but then what did it give her....nohting did she stopped talking to them... nahi not at all.. its just she has started talking in othee way... so what was teh difference.....
ok now ur question that where could be his bro .... at Antartica i would say.......😈 coz these kinds of ppl should be left alone to some space....
ur question about his reentry... um i cant say anything at the moment . currently prats is being trouble dby ss and family so there is no spaca for othe rppl they are enough for her...
and ur amumaan about aman mathur.... ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nahi rey he cant be 4m their family they would get a heartattack if he would be their relative......
chal i think this is enough to eat ur brain at the moment



Fatima ,

even if my post is ghatiya ...You, beta have to say ..it is the BEST..samjhe ...varna seedhe iss Ip circuit mein baitkar , tumhari Laptop se khudkar ek killer punch ..samjho ka ..😡😆😆

beta , he could be the nephew or cousin of that dead woman ....

this is after Kriya..romance ke baad mystery !!

Han , Yaar ...yest Kriya was good ...lubbed the moments ...😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: tanthya



Fatima ,

even if my post is ghatiya ...You, beta have to say ..it is the BEST..samjhe ...varna seedhe iss Ip circuit mein baitkar , tumhari Laptop se khudkar ek killer punch ..samjho ka ..😡😆😆

beta , he could be the nephew or cousin of that dead woman ....

this is after Kriya..romance ke baad mystery !!

Han , Yaar ...yest Kriya was good ...lubbed the moments ...😃

😆 LOL u joker tu tension na lay main hun na kisi ki koi himmat jo teri post ko acha.... 😉 i mean bura kahay😆 btw where is our 3rd stooge (Anu)?>
yeah completely lubed that moment especially when she made him sit on the bed ahhhhhhhhhhh the one moment was killing jana
um lets see if Aman mathur would be their relative then O my God saray saxena kids aik hi family main married hungay😉😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#89
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Originally posted by: tanthya



Thank You, Hope ...😊


At All the underlined .......👏👏👏👏👏

tanthya😃😃
today I find myself in an odd place - one where I can understand pratigya's expectations on the issue as a woman and on the other hand, I can understand, empathize and sympathize with krishna's reaction as a person (on a more humane level).
for the first time, since i have started watching this show I realize that my attempts at justification, rationalizing and defending are neither here nor there today - this journey is theirs, this experience is theirs and the conclusion must be theirs. what will be heart rendering to watch is not if they reach their destination but how they reach it - will she take the lead all the way or will they lead one another alternating in each other's moments of pain and distress - seeking two way comfort rather than one way support.
for the first time, since I started this show - the emotions they have evoked in me as a viewer has gripped me to the point that I am almost speechless😳 - and with this deep-rooted sense of specatator-like serenity I want to sit back and savour the ride...................................... and what a ride it is expected to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................................. memorableSmile.......................... and one for the books😃😃😃
Hope🤗
PS: to you and Dream and Dyehard and so many others trying to vocalize krishna's reactions - a big kudos ClapClap.
In my opinion, as contemporary women it is second nature for us to relate and support pratigya's desire for respect, solace and understanding in such demeaning circumstances but far more difficult methinks is the task of stepping out of our feminine mould and stepping into the shoes of someone like krishna and empathizing with his state of distress and vulnerability when he is clearly not the victim of the incident just a bystander that was consummed as collateral damage.ClapClap
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful

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tanthya😃😃
today I find myself in an odd place - one where I can understand pratigya's expectations on the issue as a woman and on the other hand, I can understand, empathize and sympathize with krishna's reaction as a person (on a more humane level).
for the first time, since i have started watching this show I realize that my attempts at justification, rationalizing and defending are neither here nor there today - this journey is theirs, this experience is theirs and the conclusion must be theirs. what will be heart rendering to watch is not if they reach their destination but how they reach it - will she take the lead all the way or will they lead one another alternating in each other's moments of pain and distress - seeking two way comfort rather than one way support.
for the first time, since I started this show - the emotions they have evoked in me as a viewer has gripped me to the point that I am almost speechless😳 - and with this deep-rooted sense of specatator-like serenity I want to sit back and savour the ride...................................... and what a ride it is expected to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................................. memorable😊.......................... and one for the books😃😃😃
Hope🤗
PS: to you and Dream and Dyehard and so many others trying to vocalize krishna's reactions - a big kudos 👏👏.
In my opinion, as contemporary women it is second nature for us to relate and support pratigya's desire for respect, solace and understanding in such demeaning circumstances but far more difficult methinks is the task of stepping out of our feminine mould and stepping into the shoes of someone like krishna and empathizing with his state of distress and vulnerability when he is clearly not the victim of the incident just a bystander that was consummed as collateral damage.👏👏




Super stuff, Hope! Special applause for the sized-up parts! 😃
To borrow your fantastic phrase - this is what I was really hoping would seize the members of this forum -
this deep-rooted sense of spectator-like serenity!
The Makers of this show have always had such masterly control of what, how and when they were going to unfold, that as viewer we were being played like fine-tuned violins.
Our love of Krishna, our frustration in his apparent lack of refinement (how wrong that turned out to be!), our frustration with Pratigya's coldness (how untrue that is!), our admiration of her (however reluctant) and the inescapable nature of her fundamental rights, the subtle, subtle tug-of-war or call it Tug-o-love - all of these ideas have been planted by these expert puppeteers!
Finally they have brought it to a point which we were almost afraid to hope for. But perhaps we should have always given these super-talented and very gutsy people (the CVs) the credit they deserved. That they have always served the cause of the narrative, rather than sacrifice any character at the cost of the other.

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