Pandora's Box - Page 8

tanthya:

amazing amazing post. a balm for a tortured soul.

your post is amazing, the actors are amazing. thsi show is amazing

the last two days have been steeped in emotions, capturing an infinite depth and intensity that you have tried to convey very effectively.

there has been a lot of discussion on krishna's reaction and pratigya's expectations - a lot of valid points from both sides - though when I read them all I can think is that while our expecations of these characters is moot - their emotions, their reactions, their interaction - IS REAL

for the first time, I can empathize with BOTH leads, at the same time. for the first time, their interaction seems like a genuine husband wife interaction. they are talking, through all that pain and mistrust and battering - they are talking. the healing process has begun and is in full swing.

pratigya is doing things right, finally, much as I still remember her callous indifference - now she is acting exactly as a wife should act in a situation like this. whether she should have to act this way - is it fair to her? that is a different issue and no matter how much we debate - the fact of the matter is that in a relationship where a man is besotted to the point of ardent worship of his spouse - finding out a truth as earth shattering is bound to have this reaction - anywhere in the world, especially in small town India.

pratigya is finally acting as a wife who is intent on reconciliation. krishna is acting as a husband who is broken, disillusioned to the core and much in need of personal space to reconcile and make peace with himself so that he can move forward - yet he is considerate when he asks for this space. he does not swear, use harsh language, aggressive body language. he asks questions but that is only to voice his thoughts - her answers are not helping him solve this emotional maze he finds himself in. he asks politely for the space he needs. 👏 she rightfully gives him that space becasue on more than one occasion he too has obliged upon her request.

today, finally I see them as equals - both battered, both hurting, yet mututally supportive (when it matters), both drained. wow. such intensity from a hindi soap😃👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

pearl grey, arhaan and yes - finally pooja - 👏👏👏

hope

👏

Originally posted by: mima190587

Pratigya needs to wake up to how good she has it, its hard to find someone that can love you that hard, i also want her to realise how great Krishna is so she can start treating him better, poor guy needs a loving and caring wife i mean look at his family, he needs someone to love him in a civilised manner😆 (pick me pick me)

Mima ,


I think she has woken up .....that is why we are seeing her Krishnafying so many times since yest ...Mima dear you had a chance till wednesday ...Now if u even shoot a wrong glance at Krishna ..Pratigwa will come pointing Shakthi's rifle at you .....😆

Originally posted by: tanthya

Mima ,


I think she has woken up .....that is why we are seeing her Krishnafying so many times since yest ...Mima dear you had a chance till wednesday ...Now if u even shoot a wrong glance at Krishna ..Pratigwa will come pointing Shakthi's rifle at you .....😆

oh phlease i can handle Pratigwa, 🤣 and put her back to sleep FOREVER😈

Originally posted by: Dyehard

Great discussion! 😃 Great thread, Tanthya. 👏

Bubble, I loved your post here as well as at - http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1453336
I agree with you wholly.

I also agree quite a bit with Dreamygal. I find myself not so much finding defenses for Krishna's behaviour but really trying to understand it.

We have Krishna's verbal reactions and then we have his physical reactions and then we have his social reactions.
I think we should pay greater attention to the larger decisions he has made and how he is reacting to Pratigya's proximity rather than go by the literal meaning of his words. I think there is a lot to be read between the line in this case. Like Dreamygal said, he will now talk as he has been expected to because of the sort of things he has heard being uttered since he was a child and the usual expectations of a man in his position. He is saying these things as if on automaton, but are his actions like the rest of his family?

In reacting to Krishna's words and behaviour, I think we should take our cues from Pratigya herself!
In explaining herself to Krishna and saying repeatedly that nothing happened she is not so much trying to clear her name as much as calm him down. She is not treating him like an angry husband who has to be manaoed or mollified but like a grief-stricken child who has had the shock of his life and needs to be handled with care. I think she sees him very clearly. That for a man who has never known fear, the idea that someone may have attacked his beloved Pratigya when he was alive and around has chilled him to the bone.
I agree with Bubble, that he is too scared to even see her face because it is bringing to mind images too horrible to bear. Basically Krishna Singh has had a massive scare and it will take sometime for his heart to beat normally. (BTW I LUUUUBED the way Pratigya stroke his heart over the quilt, as if to say, it is all right, everthing will be alright! 😳😳😳)

Yes, Krishna has been upset for not being trusted and for being married for the wrong reasons without love, but I think that the biggest jolt has been the IDEA that Pratigya may have been violated. NOT because it may make her impure but beacuse he can't bear the idea of something like that happening to her. Yes, they will go on about PAVITR / APAVITR 🤢 but I think they both know that between them (as against for society) it is all about love and fear rather than about expectation and distrust.

Bottom-line is this-
Krishna is going to SPEAK like the product of his background and upbringing for sometime till he has recovered himself.
Krishna is going to ACT and REACT exactly as per the dictates of his heart. A heart that has just discovered its true depth and colour only now! 😳😳

Just like we waited for Pratigya to overcome her anger, hurt and fear, we should wait for Krishna to overcome this great shock.

Dyehard ,

Lovely Post .....👏 👏

Just like we waited for Pratigya to overcome her anger, hurt and fear, we should wait for Krishna to overcome this great shock. and also his aversion { he will be revolted,let us not shy away from it ] and also fits of unreasonable anger ....All this will take time..we have given space to Pratigya to come to terms with her reality ..Now Pratigya has to give space to Krishna for him come to terms with this harsh reality ...

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

tanthya:

amazing amazing post. a balm for a tortured soul.

your post is amazing, the actors are amazing. thsi show is amazing

the last two days have been steeped in emotions, capturing an infinite depth and intensity that you have tried to convey very effectively.

there has been a lot of discussion on krishna's reaction and pratigya's expectations - a lot of valid points from both sides - though when I read them all I can think is that while our expecations of these characters is moot - their emotions, their reactions, their interaction - IS REAL

for the first time, I can empathize with BOTH leads, at the same time. for the first time, their interaction seems like a genuine husband wife interaction. they are talking, through all that pain and mistrust and battering - they are talking. the healing process has begun and is in full swing.

pratigya is doing things right, finally, much as I still remember her callous indifference - now she is acting exactly as a wife should act in a situation like this. whether she should have to act this way - is it fair to her? that is a different issue and no matter how much we debate - the fact of the matter is that in a relationship where a man is besotted to the point of ardent worship of his spouse - finding out a truth as earth shattering is bound to have this reaction - anywhere in the world, especially in small town India.

pratigya is finally acting as a wife who is intent on reconciliation. krishna is acting as a husband who is broken, disillusioned to the core and much in need of personal space to reconcile and make peace with himself so that he can move forward - yet he is considerate when he asks for this space. he does not swear, use harsh language, aggressive body language. he asks questions but that is only to voice his thoughts - her answers are not helping him solve this emotional maze he finds himself in. he asks politely for the space he needs. 👏 she rightfully gives him that space becasue on more than one occasion he too has obliged upon her request.

today, finally I see them as equals - both battered, both hurting, yet mututally supportive (when it matters), both drained. wow. such intensity from a hindi soap👏

pearl grey, arhaan and yes - finally pooja - 👏👏👏

hope

👏

Thank You, Hope ...😊


At All the underlined .......👏👏👏👏👏

Mima ,

Pratigwa Ko.....REally ...Ab Yeh dhamakedaar fight tho dekhna padega ..😆

Originally posted by: tanthya

Mima ,

Pratigwa Ko.....REally ...Ab Yeh dhamakedaar fight tho dekhna padega ..😆

it'll be a 2 second fight, i'll just call Angad to kidnap her🤣

Originally posted by: soapbubble

Tanthya, lovely kicker post and I found the whole discussion very engrossing.

Broadly I find myself aligned with Dreamygal on this particular interpretation. Krishna has had a cataclysmic shock - the revelations have turned his life upside down, his views, and everything he thought about himself even. Also no matter how politically correct we might want to be, the heart and the gut cannot, must not be denied. I would rather Krishna took time to come around to the facts and accepted Pratigya whole heartedly rather than present lip service. I remember, in fact, reading a story where an urban civilised man accepts and supports his wife after a rape and then later, simply can't adjust to the fact - it ruins their every interaction and they break up. Our politically correct ideals are not very deep, relationships cannot be sustained on 'should be'.

Even so, Krishna has declared his stance even louder than words by dragging Pratigya INTO the house rather than OUTSIDE it. That, there, is his first position. If, after this, he needs some time to overcome his revulsion at the THOUGHT that his wife was violated, I can understand it. Although, of course, as a feminist and romantic, I fully expect him to do just that and will be severely disappointed if he doesn't.

I don't know why he said tum hamari nazaron se gir gayee ho in the promo and I hope he won't be repeating that in the serial. From what has happened so far, it seems to me like Krishna is dealing, processing all this ugly informaiton that has just come to him. I didn't realise there was such a wonderful discussion here, and put up this post /thread:
http://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1453336

Please do read and comment.

Bubble

Bubble ,

Dreamy gal usually makes a lot of sense ..and I love to read her posts ..😊...absolutely agree with you...his heart and his emotions need to vent all their doubts and examine them in cold harsh reality ,his guts shud have the courage to face the bitter truths and overcome it... He has already intimated to his fmly , that she is his wife and he means to maintain the status quo ..so the cosmetic bandage has been done ..and the internal injury and grieveances has to be adressed and he is rightfully doing it inside the confines of the four walls....the patch ups will take time ...the mending and healing is along process ..Time is what he needs ..Time is what shud be given to him ...


I would not much store by the promos ...let us see how this gets played out ...before we begin decoding Baba's statement ..


Thank you for the lovely Post, Bubble..😊

Originally posted by: mima190587

it'll be a 2 second fight, i'll just call Angad to kidnap her🤣

Angadwa has gone to Hell ...do you mean Jugnu and Unlucky ....they cant even lift a fly ...how will they lift Pratigwa ????😲😆

Originally posted by: tanthya

Angadwa has gone to Hell ...do you mean Jugnu and Unlucky ....they cant even lift a fly ...how will they lift Pratigwa ????😲😆

it's ok, i have my behooda gang to help me, they can take her captive and Lucky and Jugnu are so lost without their leader it's so funny, maybe i'll make them my sidekicks