Originally posted by: shumi.
hi...limit... i just read the first para of your second post after marriage cuz i do't bother about what happened before marriage i belive in let bygones be bygones, i don't like people brood about past and make their present life hell.
If u had read my first para, ie. b4 marriage comment, u would have known that I LOVED Krishna as much as I love Pratigya, b4 marriage, ie. I've accepted his mistakes bcoz they were mainly due to misunderstandings created by Angad!!!
U know, I agree somewhat with the phrase in pink-font... Yes, the past should not be brooded upon and its a lot easier and better for the present and future to forget about the past!!! However, NOT ALL kinds of pasts are easy to forget - no matter how much we believe in such ideologies!!!
For e.g. A girl fails a semester, now she can either brood about it and fail the next semester as well OR stop thinking about the past and study harder to pass the next semester... BUT, suppose a girl is sexually assaulted - NOW u tell me, is it as simple to forget about it as it is to forget about the failed semester??? I dont think it is - coz, failing a semester is a mental stress where as being sexually assaulted is both a physical and mental trauma which weakens one's heart or turns it into ice... Yes, Pratigya's situation is not THAT extreme, but its still much closer to a trauma than a stress...
Krishna is going through a stressy situation where as Pratigya is suffering from mental and physical trauma!!! And I think she will need a long time to forget and carry on with her life normally, BUT guess wat??? Krishna is sooo NOT helping her to forget by physically abusing her and forcing himself on her - just adding to her list of other agonies, so, how is Pratigya expected to forget the past when she is still suffering similarly in the present?
so i chose post marriage para......i just read first para (pl don't laugh at me)and thought of sharing my view. the marriage rituals are same for all marriage whether it is normal,arranged or love marriages!!!please tell me do hindu religion have different rituals for different type of marriage?😕
Ok! ME will not laugh at u BUT the prob. is, since u dint read it completely, u misunderstood/missed my point and got urself all 😕,😉...
I dont know nything about hindu religion, other than wat I saw on tv, and honestly speaking, I dont really know much about marriage itself!!! Everything I said are my expectations from a marriage and what I think of marriage and wat I saw between my parents; my sister and my brother-in-law; and my other relatives or friends - thanks to Allah, none of them were as unfortunate as Pratigya!!!
When I brought up arranged or love marriage, it was NOT to differentiate between the rituals of different kinds of marriage BUT to emphasise on the FACT that UNLIKE a FORCED Marriage, these types of marriages atleast have the wishes and happiness of the parents' or the girl's or both... And so there is NO point in thinking about how normal couple consummated after marriage... Coz, these couples are either strangers or lovers who either dint have nything to do with each other or were in love with each other!!! Where as, its TOTALLY different in case of KriYa...
i agree krishna also did not follow his marriage oath but i can give him excuse cuz he don't know the meaning of rituals, but pratigya knows the meaning of rituals and she also knows the meaning of marriage.if a person makes mistake un knowingly we can excuse him,if a person makes mistake by knowingly i think he don't deserve any excuse.
So, are u sort of, saying something like - if Krishna commits a murder, he is excusable coz he dint know the meaning of murder BUT if Pratigya commits the same murder, she is expected to be punished coz she commited the murder, knowing wat it means??? Well, I think, its being biased and excusing Krishna WONT make him LEARN the meaning of rituals in nyways, coz he will most probably think that he is RIGHT, as usual! Where as, NOT excusing it and punishing him similarly would atleast make him realize that commiting a murder, whatever its meaning is, is WRONG!!!
Sure, Pratigya knows the meaning of rituals and marriage and thats why I said in one of our prev. discussions that Pratigya wont be behaving like she does with Krishna, if she were married to Nitin!!! BCOZ, Nitin dint do NY such thing to Pratigya as Krishna did and is still doing to her - which does NOT make it easy on her to accept Krishna... Basically, Pratigya's behaviors are mere REACTIONS to the way Krishna behaves/acts with/towards her!!!
U see, I dont really understand HOW exactly some other members blame Pratigya other than making a mountain out of a mole-hill, BUT ever since I read ur last reply to one of my comments, I atleast understand WHY U blame Pratigya COZ, u said, u would like to change ur self if u were in Pratigya's shoes AND I really cant judge u for that thought of urs coz, its ur thought and belief which happens to be different from mine...😉
more over krishna did not say i will not tell lie in front of god,but pratigya after taking two to three hours oath in front of agni/god now she is acting smart and letting she can't tell lie.in front of the same god she told krishna that you never supported me,you always stood beside the people who abused me...is it true????😕😕😕
Ohk Shumi! I just watched that episode and I dint hear Pratigya saying that Krishna NEVER supported her;
What she says is, 'hum tumhari wajah se be-izzat hotey rehtey hai, aur tum humara nahin, unn be-izzat karney walon k saath kharey rehtey ho, unka saath dete ho' - I think wat it means in English is, 'I am being insulted bcoz of u, and u dont stand by me but with the ones who r insulting me, u support them!' So, HOW exactly is that saying Krishna NEVER supported her???😕 I thought she was talking about the current incident, where, even after watching her being insulted Krishna did not support her and insisted that she is lying, along with his father and family!!! So, I dont really think Pratigya was lying... I guess, thats wat a different POV means!!!😆
PS:if you think just by reading first two lines of your post it is not fair to comment please neglect my post😊.
Awww Shumi! I am really glad that u even read and reply back to my comments, without being disrespectful to my thoughts even when u disagree with and even though u dont like reading long comments...