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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: MERARAI



Prats seems to have a victim complex and low self-esteem. I can understand her choices if she had been the 5th std fail instead. But that's not the case. When has a strong woman ever stayed in an abusive relationship? She abuses him verbally and he retaliates at times with physically. Somehow so far he has managed to full himself from the mouth of hell when he loses his temper.

I have said this in past posts, even the average guy would have lost his temper with some of the things she has said to Krishna in the name of fighting for her right. Granted she hates him but then she has to take some responsibility for the reaction some of her words may evoke in another person. Being a woman doesn't automatically give her the right to spew venomous words out of hate and not expect some reaction from him? Maybe she is trying to test how far she can push him. After lashing out at him verbally she expects him, a hot-bloooded Tacurse to wimper away like a wuss? Let's not forget it's not just Krishna. She has put herself on the receiving end of abuse from Komal, SS and Amma by involving herself in situations at her sasural what ever her reasons are, and threatened by physical abuse by Sakthi. Krishna stepped in to save her. Someone deep down there she must believe she is not worthy of being a happily married woman.😲

Nitin was a goody guy yet she was not drawn to him. IMO, even though Krishna is an unpud 5th std fail and something about him intrigues her. I believe she may dislike (maybe even hate) the fact that she is drawn to someone like Krishna. After all when it comes to the matters of the heart, the heart wants what it does, with no rhyme or reason. It happens the world over.

Krishna was honest enough to say to Prof. and his family that they knew how to hurt the heart. Good or bad, right or wrong, he speaks what is in his mind. He was ready to accept what his heart told him when he met Prats for the first time. As Chandu pointed out he was someone cynical and didn't believe in love, a pathar mahadeven who turned majnu acc' to Komal. He at least is honest about his feelings and his intentions whatever they may be.



Her self-esteem has always been questionable. Even the slightest converstaion puts her throu a guilt trip and we have seen it through and through from the start of the drama.

The underlined part has been my bone of contention. Except Kesar she gets verbally abused by practically everybody even that freaking maid. I was shocked when that maid gave her an attitude and she just kept quiet and started cleaning the dishes herself. I was thinking if she can't out thye maid in place what hope in hell does she have to mend the Tacurse ways.

Shakti even went to slap her and she wld have got slapped if Baba hadn't butted in. My question again is: Who goes throu all that nonesense? I wld have understood it if a woman went through all this if she loved her husband. She hates her husband and plays dutiful bahu. Doesn't she have any self-respect or the whole self respect awarness arises only in front of Baba


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Posted: 15 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: dkmystery


leave it athena, if these people are adamant on supporting rape, n can't understand even now, then it's no use to write n make them understand that rape is not romantic or glamorous!



@athena: well that is my point different people look for different things in a situation. U saw it as a whole picture and your reaction was disgust which is valid and Vishid just saw the handsome actor. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong

@dkmystery: Please don't make blank statements and doubt my integrity. Which statement of mine supports rape? I don't live in fanatsy world who thinks rape is romantic or glamorous.

Edited by krishna_chalbo - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo



@athena: well that is my point different people look for different things in a situation. U saw it as a whole picture and your reaction was disgust which is valid and Vishid just saw the handsome actor. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong

@dkmystery: Please don't make blank statements and doubt my integrity. Which staement of mine supports rape? I don't live in fanatsy world who thinks rape is romantic or glamorous.


My post wasn't directed to you, did I take your name????
wow!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: shumi.

girls i watch the last par of yesterdays epi more than once cuz i want to know what forced him to do so( i know he had the intention before,why suddenly he implemented it now)
when krishna asked praigya ' ab ka hua?...sab teek hai na?...kuch bigda tho nahi gharpe?'
pratigya reply to krishna 'jab thum sab kuch bigaad ney pey thulay hue ho tho nahi bigday ga? thumhaari ek chootki wajai se aaj hamaare pariwaar waalong kay mann mai ghirnaa bhargaye hai hamaare prathi...sab ghalath samaj rahay hai hamai.yahaa hamaare saath kya horaha hai aur wahaan par hamaari behan...kya kahay hum thum se? kaise kahay kay thum samjogay...'
girls i really don't understand what pratigya means😕.saxena,nainaji,and dadai were glad about her pregnancy. pratigya don't know what aradsh felt.so left out is her sweet sweet pyaari pyaari behana arushi...then why she said hamaare pariwaar waalong kay mann mai ghirnaa bhargaye hai hamaare prathi...sab ghalath samaj rahay hai hamai...'
is arushi alone makes her whole pariwaar!!!!!😕 😕 😕...can any one explain...😊

i think what shes trying to say is...as arushi told her..bhaiya sacrificed his love so tht u wud be safe..just cuz u married him..u told me u were gonna get revenge..now u forgot everything n r having a baby...what bothers me is tht arushi is not understanding..a guy like krishna..has she ever thought tht he mightve forced himself on her...arushi prob never thought abt tht...but anyways..arushi was upset prats is having a baby..meaning she let krish touch her...forgetting everything tht happened...n since be4 marriage the whole fam hated krishna..maybe she thinks now they do also..tht they still dont like him. she she just thought..as arushi called her tht the whole famthinks tht way...hope u understand..😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: MERARAI



Prats seems to have a victim complex and low self-esteem.

What if she has a victim complex and low self-esteem(not that I agree with you on that..)??Is that a crime???

I can understand her choices if she had been the 5th std fail instead.

How are her choices justified if she was a 5th fail???

But that's not the case. When has a strong woman ever stayed in an abusive relationship?

No lets say she is NOT strong...Because I don't remember her to have made any claims about being strong...And lets not forget she wasn't able to be strong enough to commit suicide and that's why she had to choose marriage... So what's your point there??

She abuses him verbally and he retaliates at times with physically. Somehow so far he has managed to full himself from the mouth of hell when he loses his temper.

Every man who resorts to rape and physical abuse has a story to tell....Even Shakti has a story to tell...He doesn't like his wife's skin color and hates to see her next to him...So, does that make Kesar also faulty and Shakti a victim of his wife's beauty or lack there of???


I have said this in past posts, even the average guy would have lost his temper with some of the things she has said to Krishna in the name of fighting for her right.

So what do you suggest the average guy to do with a wife like Pratigya???And while you are at it, can you also please throw some light on the average girls like Pratigya who come from pretty normal b/g like her and who get harassed by the goons like Krishna and who get forced into such a marriage??

Granted she hates him but then she has to take some responsibility for the reaction some of her words may evoke in another person. Being a woman doesn't automatically give her the right to spew venomous words out of hate and not expect some reaction from him?

Venomous words???😕When did she ever say any venemous words???She was venting on him which even a wife of normal marriage tends to do sometimes.....can you please give some examples...I may have missed something here....

Maybe she is trying to test how far she can push him. After lashing out at him verbally she expects him, a hot-bloooded Tacurse to wimper away like a wuss?

Oh, so she has to be scared of Krishna's reaction and just learn to oblige his demands and stay quite like a wuss???What do you suggest she should be doing??

Let's not forget it's not just Krishna. She has put herself on the receiving end of abuse from Komal, SS and Amma by involving herself in situations at her sasural what ever her reasons are, and threatened by physical abuse by Sakthi. Krishna stepped in to save her. Someone deep down there she must believe she is not worthy of being a happily married woman.😲

She didn't involve herself for the whim of it...and she didn't get into those situations expecting Krishna to step in...Again, what do you suggest she should be doing if not get involved in cases like Kesar's???

Nitin was a goody guy yet she was not drawn to him. IMO, even though Krishna is an unpud 5th std fail and something about him intrigues her. I believe she may dislike (maybe even hate) the fact that she is drawn to someone like Krishna. After all when it comes to the matters of the heart, the heart wants what it does, with no rhyme or reason. It happens the world over.

Umm...lets just say Pratigya is one of us???Do any of us fancy a guy like Krishna??Not me...And there are more people like me in the world and Pratigya represents average girls like me who dream of a normal life...I don't think it happens the world over...NOT many girls fancy a relationship with an abusive guy

Krishna was honest enough to say to Prof. and his family that they knew how to hurt the heart. Good or bad, right or wrong, he speaks what is in his mind.

Speaking ones mind is not exactly a virtue...We have seen that and accepted in Aarushi's case....And btw, Krishna is no honest guy....He said and did so many things which were not honest...He first got close to ShyamS with deceit...and then he sent them to jail out of deceit again...so he is not exactly a guy who speaks what's in his mind ALL the time...He does that only when it suits his purposes....

He was ready to accept what his heart told him when he met Prats for the first time. As Chandu pointed out he was someone cynical and didn't believe in love, a pathar mahadeven who turned majnu acc' to Komal. He at least is honest about his feelings and his intentions whatever they may be.

So what if he was honest about his feelings???What does that prove???Even Shakti was very honest about NOT wanting the children of Kesar...He clearly told her in so many words that he doesn't like her because she is not fair....What exactly does a man/woman speaking his/her mind prove??

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: dkmystery


My post wasn't directed to you, did I take your name????
wow!



Okay you have quoted in response to athena's quote which was directed to me. So your telling me u have interferred in a converstaion between two adults supporting one of them by making a statement which has words like 'these people' and u r telling me it wasn't addressed to me. If that is your logic I'll accept it.

I wld appreciate it if you didn't make any generic statement like 'these pople'

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Posted: 15 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo



Okay you have quoted in response to athena's quote which was directed to me. So your telling me u have interferred in a converstaion between two adults supporting one of them by making a statement which has words like 'these people' and u r telling me it wasn't addressed to me. If that is your logic I'll accept it.

I wld appreciate if you didn't make any generic statement like 'these pople'


'interfering between 2 adults', what was that about?? 😕
I don't think the need to explain you when I had posted it to athena, so better don't respond to me any further!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo


Her self-esteem has always been questionable. Even the slightest converstaion puts her throu a guilt trip and we have seen it through and through from the start of the drama.

Agreed...what does that establish though??To me it establishes that she is just another normal girl....Her attempts to talk back to SS and others and even helping Kesar prove to me that she is an ordinary girl who is trying to overcome her fears....Can you say that is wrong??Aren't most of the girls(people) like that???How many of us come all equipped with courage and bravery to start with??Isn't courage something people achieve by overcoming the initial fears???In fact even now debating with you needed me to collect a lot of courage cos I didn't know how you would react(of course its another thing that you are actually such a pleasant debater and I am enjoying having a constructive debate with you...😊)...We all combat fears at every level....You may laugh at my little confession but that's true yaar....

The underlined part has been my bone of contention. Except Kesar she gets verbally abused by practically everybody even that freaking maid. I was shocked when that maid gave her an attitude and she just kept quiet and started cleaning the dishes herself. I was thinking if she can't out thye maid in place what hope in hell does she have to mend the Tacurse ways.

Lets just say she has no hope and she is stuck badly....and she is scared (or too nice) to muh lagao with all these evil people...So?

Shakti even went to slap her and she wld have got slapped if Baba hadn't butted in. My question again is: Who goes throu all that nonesense? I wld have understood it if a woman went through all this if she loved her husband. She hates her husband and plays dutiful bahu. Doesn't she have any self-respect or the whole self respect awarness arises only in front of Baba


She unfortunately was forced to forget her self-respect....Sad but the fact of the matter is, there are girls out there like Pratigya...I myself have seen one such girl...my classmate...She was forced to marry that bugger and now she lives in hell just because she couldn't commit suicide....

Krishna-B you are forgetting that the whole crux of the story is how Pratigya like girls suffer from such forced marraiges and how if a girl decides to stand up for herself she can overcome even people like the Thakurs and make human beings out of them....the story just began na...we have to be patient to see Pratigya overcoming her weaknesses and achieving that end....And wont that be better than having a Balaji Heroine kinda girl who is born with Tusli/Prerna type of skills to handle men by their collars and drag them by their ears???

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: dkmystery


'interfering between 2 adults', what was that about?? 😕
I don't think the need to explain you when I had posted it to athena, so better don't respond to me any further!!!



Hey no need to be rude and i know your next comeback will be I am not being rude but i still want to point out.
I am very sorry if I have confused u with such a simple statement. I din't say interferring bewteen 2 adults I said interferring a converstaion bewteen 2 adults. By adults i was referring to myself and athena.
You can post to whoever u want to, u r a free person i never asked u for an explanation. I politely asked you not to make generic statements.
Once agian I politely ask u please don't tell me what to do I am an adult and make my own decisions

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kai_Hiwatari

thanks for making this topic, even i was thinking the same!! u r welcome dear😃

I saw the last epi almost 5 times 3 times to stare at krishna lol...no matter how much bad he is we can't resit staring at him.😆..and other two times to understand wht exactly made krishna to lose his kool and throw her on the bed!!!🤔
she as usual was accusing him but she didn't say or do anything that drastic for him to be this mad! Krishna over reacted and it makes no sense😕...true😕
coming to pratigya's lines, i am confused with wht exactly she was trying to say😕 me too😕
this is how i was trying to figure out 🤓 wht madam ji was trying to convey
'jab thum sab kuch bigaad ney pey thulay hue ho tho nahi bigday ga? thumhaari ek chootki wajai se aaj hamaare pariwaar waalong kay mann mai ghirnaa bhargaye hai hamaare prathi...
i think here she was refering to Arushi and Adarsh who were not so excited abt her pregnancy. Esp "ghirnaa" word was used for what she heard from arushi twice once in her bedroom and second time over the phone!! i agree but i will not add adarsh cus pratigya don't know what adarsh thinks about her, and adarsh too did not show any indifference with her.
sab ghalath samaj rahay hai hamai.
i think she is talking abt her sister and Ammaji...may be😕
yahaa hamaare saath kya horaha hai aur wahaan par hamaari behan..she was trying to say that how ammaji is constantly behind her to prove the lie and krishna is doing no help by raising every1's hopes, she said 'behan' cause Arushi thinks she is very happy with her pregnancy issue! .kya kahay hum thum se? kaise kahay kay thum samjogay...'

thanks for u r POV.i liked it😃

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