--Flaws of The Hero And Pedestal of The Heroine--

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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is gonna be a long one, folks...😆
I make a post after so long and I am all set to bore you people. 😕 Sorry. But these things on my mind need to be said.

Madhubala- Ek Ishq Ek Junoon.
The promised epic of love between a Superstar and an ordinary girl.
Ek Alag Chhe Anokha Ishq...

Alag Chhe my foot ! 🥱
Anokha Ishq...the little finger of my foot ! 🥱

RK - A self-obssessed egoistic superstar who has earned his place and fame on the grounds of his own hard work and merit after facing numerous past hardships. Right from the get go, what has defined this unique character is not his extremes BUT his balance of dual extremes. More explicitly, his innate ability to walk the fine grey line between the light and darkness.
He is not good, neither is he evil.
He is just human, with the full error-prone packaging to boot. 😆
He can be a hero amidst men, or he can be a villian to top all villians. He can be a man amidst men, or he can be a kid amidst adults. He can be a most understanding, protective, cherishing lover or he can also be an obssessive psychotic lover.
A veritable Anti-Hero who knows both his flaws and his strengths.

Madhubala - A simple girl who crosses the anti-hero and her life is changed forever. She is a kind, naive, compassionate, sacrificing and very patient being. She is adaptive, accommodating but also short-sighted and stubborn.
Point to note - I did not call her "strong", nor did I call her "understanding".
She may be simple, but her ideology is the most complex of all ideologies - "To always do the right thing."

Why I call it complex you ask? 😆 The reason is many-fold :-

One - It is not always easy to define "the right thing". It takes a lot of maturity and the ability to understand other POVs before deciding on what is the" right" course of action.

Two - There can be multiple "right things" at the same time. So which one should one choose? It takes perception and fore-thought to evaluate all the various consequences of a single action and then decide which is the "best" course of action.

Three - "Knowing" what is right is NOT the same as "doing" what is right. A person may know what is right, but the methods of achieving that result may be extremely flawed. All's well that ends well, is not always the right outcome of a journey.

Four - The "right thing" can be a fork between two roads namely - "the easy way" and the "hard way". Both are "the right way" BUT the hard sacrificing noble way is not always the best , the easy self-serving selfish way is not always the worst. It again takes maturity, perception and fore-sight to choose the best way.

Having said this, I do not think I need to explain whether Madhu has been able to follow her ideology or not till date. 😆

Yeh Kalyug hai, Satyayug nahin. The principles of goodness have not changed. But the methods of applying those good principles have changed drastically to keep pace with the growing darkness.😆
Just like one has to grow with the times, similarly one has to grow in any story in order to make the story meaningful.

In 1.5 years of watching a show, what have we received?
One - A greyshaded male lead who is the only one to experience character development...a development which very conveniently takes a regressive path whenever there arises a need to uphold the female lead's stagnant character.

Two - A female lead whose naivete and ambiguity has repeatedly been the cause of distress to everyone surrounding her. Without Fail.


Three - A couple, where the male lead has gone so far ahead in development as a person that the female counterpart stagnates and pales in comparison.🥱

Four - A relationship that has stripped that male half of everything than he is, step by step...and proved how cruelly shallow and insensitive a female half can turn out by being too naive for her own good.
😵

So now we come to the current track,
RK has finally been stripped of all that makes him RK...his singular stardom, his pride, his simple wife...RK is swimming in a sea of insecurities...the most important being his POV that he is losing his wife to the glamour world.
One notes that RK has already tread this path with Dipali. Perhaps that is why he hates her so much now. So RK is already experienced about how the lure of the spotlight can change a person. I think that is why RK is doubly insecure with Madhu.
He believes that he already knows what pain ...more severe this time because it is Madhu...is heading his way in the future. He believes he can fight a man but not the entire industry. He believes it is prudent to protect himself and distance himself from the source of that pain, Madhu, before that pain can destroy what is left of him.
He is unable to hate her, unlike he does Dipali, so he believes he has to be stoic and indifferent to her.
It is the coward's way...but this is what a normal person does after facing repeated abandonment.
The curse of RK's life - people ALWAYS abandon him, be it father, mother, brother, girlfriend, maasi, colleagues, fans, secretary, lover, wife.
And right now, he has no one at his side to understand him. To him, he is all alone. So like a man drowning in his own sea of insecurities, he is searching for the first hand that helps him survive.

And miraculously in comes a girl, Ria, who is ready to stand (or drink) beside him without judging him. Who is willing to lend an ear (albeit a drunken ear), without mocking his vulnerabilities. So he is relieved to find a friend.
He is not right. But he is not wrong either. He is just human.

He has always been a fighter...he has fought by right or crooked means to keep his love at every step...be it after unwedding, by public proposal, by public apology, against a criminal, against the court, even against Madhu herself...
but this issue of abandonment is not something he can fight. Because he is not the one with the control here, the people abandoning him have all the control in this situation. He can only protect and defend by forming a cold shell around himself...but the fight must be fought by those abandoning him.
His love for Madhu is still the same. But his greatest fear of abandonment is winning the internal war going on in his head.

Madhu, on the other hand is by far too complacent and takes things too lightly. Until recently (before RK asked her to stop playing God) no one has ever pointed out her mistakes to her. She is the most pampered character of the show. People have put her on a pedestal and she has grown far too accustomed to staying on that self-righteous pedestal.

She is a good person...but she is too naive to appreciate the difference between "what is right" and "what is best"...and everytime she is faced with these two choices, she has ALWAYS maintained an ambiguous stand...be that about befriending a criminal, be that about protecting her dignity after unwedding, be that in Meera's case, be that while making a movie, be that with everything that came after the movie.

Naivete is appreciable ...but only in a young innocent girl, unaware of the world's vices.
Naivete in a woman is nothing but a lack of emotional development that frequently exerts itself as a superficial undependable character prone to bouts of stupidity.
Honestly... thats distasteful...especially because it violates the natural essential qualities of human growth through experience.
Madhu has grown stagnant ...not growing...
RK has also always pampered her, never letting her take responsibility for her actions.

In this unbalanced relationship, he will be continually forced to grow faster and grow alone, in order to compensate for his partner's stagnancy. He will be forced to experience relapses in judgement and commit errors because he has no real guidance from her in matters of importance. He will be forced to lose himself in order to sustain her.

I keep waiting for Madhu to grow up...but a part of me has accepted that Madhu will always remain that compassionate but naive girl trapped in her own romanticism, unable to ever become a woman.
Unless she steps down from her pedestal, unless she stops playing God...I fear Madhu will never become a woman in the true sense...let alone a wife.
And that too the wife of an anti-hero !
RK ki Biwi - She has been gifted that title by RK...but keeping that title is another ballgame altogether...that is a title that must be earned through numerous battles, with the world, with RK as well as herself.

"Har kisi ko nahin milta yahan pyaar zindagi mein."
Why ? Because love is God's gift to the chosen ones.
Chosen for what? Chosen to use that gift correctly for a lifetime, chosen to fight to keep that gift safe for a lifetime.
Love is not everything. But love is the most important thing.
Her words to Bittuji...I tolerate everything because i know he loves me, and not because i love him...
It is clear that she is justifying her pedestal...she has not understood her mistakes...she has not done any self-introspection...she is implying that she is perfect, and is deigning to love a flawed man, as if it is a charity she is doing.
What Madhu forgets is that one does not "tolerate" anything in love. In love, one accepts the person with his flaws and not inspite of his flaws... and then they work together OR even against each other to maintain that love for the next fifty years...

"Junoon sirf pyaar ko haasil karne ka naam nahin hai. Uss pyaar ko saari umar mehfuz rakhna bhi ek Junoon hai. Aur shayad sabse bara Junoon bhi."

RK has proved he has both these kinds of Junoon. Has Madhu ?

After being the one to fight this battle everytime, RK has finally given up the fight and retreated within himself...but even then he knows Madhu well...he tells her everything about the friend except the fact that the friend is a girl.
Why? Because RK has gone through the pains of Madhu's complicated relationship with another man. So he does his best to not return the favour.
But again he is right and wrong. He is right to protect her from an insecurity he has faced. He is wrong to shield her from the facts to prevent future misunderstandings.
But even CVs have to follow Newton's third law. What goes around, comes around. 😆

So will Madhu too allow RK to lose? Because she is the one with all the control in this battle. It will depend on her...whether she chooses to stay as an immortalized romanticism on a pedestal...or break her inhibitions and become a real human being.

Ria, if handled well by CVs, can have a pivotal role.
She can do what everyone else has failed.
Make Madhu grow up...make RK to "allow" Madhu to grow up.
Only then can they have a good strong relationship.
Unless this happens, I fear Rishbala are better separated rather than repeating a vicious cycle again and again.

Sorry to bore you all.😆
I just had to say what was festering in my mind for so long.

Please do share your thoughts. 😳


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Posted: 11 years ago
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sorry but now madhubala serial is torture to watch ...
mb trp 1.9 ..hope ST WAKES UP ..




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Amen!
Im glad you made this post hun!
my thoughts..!


RK needs to stop being such an A**hole!
He has become yet another typical kinda guy who would blame women on all the shit that is currently happening in his life! I mean.. grow up! Hitting the bottle everytime something crappy goes down in your life.. -.- tsk tsk.. -.- I thought Rishabh was better than that -.-
tired of sob stories.. -.-

and Madhu.. Gahhh! I get that she has a bleeding heart, and carries the damn thing on her sleeve.. and just the sight of Patidev manages to melt her in her shoes.. -.- but this chick needs to get her shit straight..
She needs to stand up for herself.. -.- Even if it's the love of her life who is standing on the other side, talking her down.. ! -.- No one needs to tolerate that kinda crap, from ANYONE! -.-

Right now.. both of them are annoying me sooo much! So I should probably keep my mouth shut :) I tend to say stuff which I regret later!

So.. I'm glad you made this post hun.. soo sorry for the rant :) Had to get it outta my chest :)

My RishBala have been abducted and replaced by Aliens! :)

xxx

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post, Anki. 👏

I love your analysis, your point of view... as always.

However, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

No matter how much you analyse this clunky show, it's not gonna do any good.

I have stopped watching, analyzing and hoping when it comes to MEIEJ...

CVs made the characters that had immense potential to grow yet they preferred to keep them shallow... and keep their development only at the surface (sometimes not even that).

The whole point of a story is to show growth in characters... not abnormal growth... but a growth that seems logical and well-explained.

The only character that showed growth in the entire run of the show is RK... but seriously I do not like him anymore. I don't know why but it is happening for the first time (you know I never felt disinterested in him) but his character does not appeal to me anymore.

Madhu... I don't know what to say about her. This character is a dead body of a character now. I don't expect anything from her.

And this Ria character. I don't like her. Not because she is coming between RishBala... but there is nothing to like about her... but to each their own...

First I was waiting for separation of RishBala to resume watching the show.. now I think I am waiting for a miracle... till that happens... RishBala are dead for me... they died in that fire sequence and are only alive in my FF now... 😆

Edited by Valar.Morghulis - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely, insightful post Anki.
The story (and show for that matter) is doomed unless they show a growth/development in the characterization of Madhu. Showing her as the naive righteous wife with that halo around her head is pretty unpalatable to watch.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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first of all a standing ovation for this post
i find this the best analytical post till date
there have been many posts now
some about madhu some about rk
some about rishbala and their relation
some about ria and her influence and actions
but u explained all the details with panache
hats off to u i applaud u dear
i specially liked the part where u described the 4 things we have got in the 1.5 years of the show
rk is fighting a losing battle now
madhu has the control but she does not know about it
in fact she does not even have an inkling
rk always has to destroy and ruin himself for madhu
madhu has never behaved maturely till date
she has even justified it by her main pagal hoon speech
she had also told that she will never change herself
i really feel like shaking her at times to put some sense in her
rk has literally wasted himself for this relation
he has put everything at stake at different points of time
i can relate to rk so well as he is so real
but i simply can never understand or relate to madhu
the only time i supported her was a few days after the unwedding
rk has invested and given his all to the relation
but madhu can never even comprehend what he needs now
she can only ask main kya kar sakti hoon tumhare liye
and now she has even got a supporter bittuji
i feel bad as bittuji has changed sides fully
he does not even want to understand his chief
i do not want another triangle between rk and ria
but i doubt if the cvs will deviate from their cliched way
i want ria to be the catalyst behind the stabilization of their relation
i want madhu to understand rk
i want her to introspect on herself
i want her to think what all she has done that has harmed rk
that day pabo told that her mother did not teach her anything
and she replied she knows all her duties and she does it diligently
but it appears that her only duty is to serve parathas to rk
and try force him to eat when he is not interested
she used to understand rk so well in the 4 phere wedding phase
i am talking of the time when she gave blood and hid id from rk
she did not want him to know she had given the blood
for she knew he will not be able to stand it
what happened to her wit and intelligence and perception now ?
some of the words pabo told her i fully agree
she just sees the superficial matter
she never tries to go deep into the matter
she never tries to know the gravity of the situation
i do not know how long the relation will sustain
as for a healthy relation both partners have to invest
but here only rk invests on both of their behalf
sorry ankita such a long rant
i did not mean to bore u at all
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You didn't bore us dear, it's always nice to see how others perceive situations, I really don't know anymore which side to take, you know I watch old episodes too, and a question arised then, can love be selfish?!!! because this is how I see Rk's love, almost the time evrything is about him, when he is hurt, or wants something, he just doesn't care or to put it in a softer way he doesn't pay attention to what the other wants, or how the other feels

Now, he is overcontrolled by his insecurities, and Madhu seems not to understand or maybe doesn't know how to deal with this, but that doesn't make her really wrong, this is still the woman who forgave him for something I would never forgive unwedding, this is the woman for whom he pined and craved for a long time and couldn't believe she is back in his life and she forgave him, how can he gave up easily on her because of his insecurities woh bhi when she doesn't want to give up on him

I understand him and I know it's not easy to face all what he faced lately, and I know Madhu is not the most wise girl inn the world but all she did was for him and even after accusating her of killing her child, she still forgave him, she is always ready to make him happy, to help him, I know her thinking process is different but she just choses the way she thinks possible to help him, it might not be the best, but at that moment, according to what she was feeling and what she was being exxposed to, this is what she did, so after this does she deserve what she is getting!!!

Actually in her place I would have given up, he might love her but he is so self-centred, it's always about his fears, insecurities, but what about her?!!! he feels fame will take her from him, so he gives up, but what about her feelings?!!!!

Now another point since she loves him and she accepted him and still ready to accept him with his flaws, she has only one way to save her relationship; she should grow up some mind and try to understand fully the undercurrents of the situation of her complicated husband to keep dealing with his insecurities and appease theml
Edited by arshisfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yours is by far the best post I have read.👏
MB seems like an idealistic teenager trapped in the body of a woman who does not understand either the complexities of life or of relations.

It was the same in initial days of pregnancy also - I want to be a mother like a girl says I want this doll. A woman would think am I in the position right now to take care of this child? It was a case of what she wanted and not what was beneficial for the coming child. This lack of mature decision making has been evident in every one of her actions.

While working in the movie "why cant I fulfil both the roles?" Everywhere her thought process has been child like. I am not saying she is childish but yes is child like unable to understand like an adult that in life one has to forego a lot of things..

RK in his insecurity is destroying their relationship and MB is helping him do it by being everything that a man does not want in a wife.

After the initial physical attraction wears off the relationship works on maturity and mutual understanding of the couple. MB is neither matured nor understands her husband.


Edited by Poluk - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tabby999



sorry but now madhubala serial is torture to watch ...
mb trp 1.9 ..hope ST WAKES UP ..




dont apologize dear...i myself cant stand it these days
One is a selfish A-hole and the other is a lost silly girl 🤢
I hope next week trps are 0.9 ans CVs are forced to take Meiej seriously 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Stephanie-

Amen!
Im glad you made this post hun!
my thoughts..!


RK needs to stop being such an A**hole!
He has become yet another typical kinda guy who would blame women on all the shit that is currently happening in his life! I mean.. grow up! Hitting the bottle everytime something crappy goes down in your life.. -.- tsk tsk.. -.- I thought Rishabh was better than that -.-
tired of sob stories.. -.-

and Madhu.. Gahhh! I get that she has a bleeding heart, and carries the damn thing on her sleeve.. and just the sight of Patidev manages to melt her in her shoes.. -.- but this chick needs to get her shit straight..
She needs to stand up for herself.. -.- Even if it's the love of her life who is standing on the other side, talking her down.. ! -.- No one needs to tolerate that kinda crap, from ANYONE! -.-

Right now.. both of them are annoying me sooo much! So I should probably keep my mouth shut :) I tend to say stuff which I regret later!

So.. I'm glad you made this post hun.. soo sorry for the rant :) Had to get it outta my chest :)

My RishBala have been abducted and replaced by Aliens! :)

xxx

Steph 🤗
Am glad i could help 😆...rant away to your heart's content 😆
Yes...RK and Madhu are both getting on my nerves.
I cant even recognize them now

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