--Flaws of The Hero And Pedestal of The Heroine-- - Page 3

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Posted: 11 years ago
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anki, my sister doesnt watch MB or any other soap but I read out ur msg to her , I liked it so much..i'll comment on it later..
but Maria, I will kill u if u quit..u better change ur Mind..rk ko kuch nai hua, trust me..bhai ke time par I gave u hope na, so trust me this time also..main aise nai keh rahi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@dia, ur post was as wonderful as anki's..loved loved loved it
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Excellent post
No one cld have explained rk n madhu more perfectly other than u
At this point of time also i feel connected to rk but madhu cant even relate to her even after unwedding n wat I have understood frm cvs pov that madhubala is rks ishq n junoon to such an extent that he can rise also n fall also for her n i wont be surprised if he gives away his life soon for her which i desperately want his love n obession is to extreme ends for her n he cld just give away everything for her but ppl seem to not understand this but i hope after reading u they understand n for madhu she never learns frm her mistake nor accept it thats y she always fail to understand wat the other is thinking
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: NehaVdian

Excellent post
No one cld have explained rk n madhu more perfectly other than u
At this point of time also i feel connected to rk but madhu cant even relate to her even after unwedding n wat I have understood frm cvs pov that madhubala is rks ishq n junoon to such an extent that he can rise also n fall also for her n i wont be surprised if he gives away his life soon for her which i desperately want his love n obession is to extreme ends for her n he cld just give away everything for her but ppl seem to not understand this but i hope after reading u they understand n for madhu she never learns frm her mistake nor accept it thats y she always fail to understand wat the other is thinking



So what your saying is that RK putting the entire blame on Madhu for stuff which she didn't even do is all beacause of his junoon?? 😳 and whatever he does, it's justified because it is his junoon?? 😳

Honestly.. the only Junoon.. AND Ishq I see in the show now is from Madhu's side! 😳 Don't get me wrong.. but trusting and being with the man who hurts you with his razor sharp words.. and tolerating all that he throws her way, now that my friend, is Junoon! 😳

If RK sacrifices himself for Madhu, honestly I would not be able to see him as the hero! 😳
He'd do that for his own selfish reasons :) I know your a RKian/VDian! so you don't look at things the way a RishBalian would! and I don't expect you to! 😳 and I completely respect your POV!

I could relate to Madhu during the unwedding! I loathed RK then! but not as much as I hate him treating his wife like he is now! 😳 But I could relate to RK too during the unwedding period.. he was confused.. struggling with his own feelings! 😳 and now that he has nothing clouding his eyes.. still behaves this way?? I can hardly call it Junoon! :) this is just plain and stupid! 😆


Just what I think about your post :) I dont mean to offend anyone! 😆 😳 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

but Maria, I will kill u if u quit..u better change ur Mind..rk ko kuch nai hua, trust me..bhai ke time par I gave u hope na, so trust me this time also..main aise nai keh rahi



Charu.. 🤗

Thanks for the tough love... 😳😆
I will try for you because you were one of the people with whom I shared hope during bhai track... I hope against hope that things will get better...
Edited by Valar.Morghulis - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

You didn't bore us dear, it's always nice to see how others perceive situations, I really don't know anymore which side to take, you know I watch old episodes too, and a question arised then, can love be selfish?!!! because this is how I see Rk's love, almost the time evrything is about him, when he is hurt, or wants something, he just doesn't care or to put it in a softer way he doesn't pay attention to what the other wants, or how the other feels

Thanks JJ 😆
Oh Najat, you sound so innocent when you ask that question! 😳
Love can be anything and everything. It can build just as it can destroy. 😆
A love that is not selfish in some degree is not a human love JJ. 😆
Selfishness is necessary to protect that love. When a love is purely selfless, it it not love but worship. One can worship god. Never a human being. 😆

And RK long ago stated he is a selfish lover.
But he is a most cherishing lover as well.
You say he doesnt care...i say he cares too much,...i can give you ample examples of his caring about Madhu more than himself right from the start...be it after unwedding, bhai track, after marriage.
But one cannot always keep doing so when there is less than equal reciprocation from the other side. 😆
Madhu is not fit to be a wife or lover anymore. She was a failure as a wife right from after the wedding. And later she failed as a lover as well.



Now, he is overcontrolled by his insecurities, and Madhu seems not to understand or maybe doesn't know how to deal with this, but that doesn't make her really wrong, this is still the woman who forgave him for something I would never forgive unwedding, this is the woman for whom he pined and craved for a long time and couldn't believe she is back in his life and she forgave him, how can he gave up easily on her because of his insecurities woh bhi when she doesn't want to give up on him.


RK apologized and she forgave him. Dont forget she was no innocent soul for what she tried to do after that 😆...her forgiveness was half love and also half guilt.😆...just as RK's apology was half love and half guilt. So hisaab baraabar. 😆
And all her actions after that point have negated whatever she did before. A good deed does not a thousand mistakes hide. 😆
But the problem is she does not accept her mistakes ever 😆



I understand him and I know it's not easy to face all what he faced lately, and I know Madhu is not the most wise girl inn the world but all she did was for him and even after accusating her of killing her child, she still forgave him, she is always ready to make him happy, to help him, I know her thinking process is different but she just choses the way she thinks possible to help him, it might not be the best, but at that moment, according to what she was feeling and what she was being exxposed to, this is what she did, so after this does she deserve what she is getting!!!

What has she been exposed to ? rat bites, hypothermia, a newspaper scandal and an abortion. First two were he own doing, third was inconsequential and fourth was the fault of both her and RK.
Do I make a list of all that RK has been exposed to? 😆

The problem is not her thinking process...the problem is her thinking that she is always right and trying to play God 🥱...and then trying to justify her POV and not care about the POV of others 🥱




Actually in her place I would have given up, he might love her but he is so self-centred, it's always about his fears, insecurities, but what about her?!!! he feels fame will take her from him, so he gives up, but what about her feelings?!!!!


In her place, I would have handcuffed RK and 'convinced' him until he understood his insecurity was baseless. 😆😉
RK's love is selfish...not self-centred. There is a difference. His love is acutely centred on Madhu. What she does, says and acts.
This is where he has been butchered. His defining Junoon to protect his center has been mutilated by CVs.


Now another point since she loves him and she accepted him and still ready to accept him with his flaws, she has only one way to save her relationship; she should grow up some mind and try to understand fully the undercurrents of the situation of her complicated husband to keep dealing with his insecurities and appease them.

Has she really accepted him JJ? As he is?
Her words to Bittuji...she tolerates his misbehaviour because he loves her...
That in no way is the mentality of a loving wife. That is the mentality of a self-righteous short-sighted "girl" who feels she is doing charity by loving him despite his flaws. 😆
Whatever respect I had for her love was lost with this dialogue. 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Poluk

Yours is by far the best post I have read.👏

MB seems like an idealistic teenager trapped in the body of a woman who does not understand either the complexities of life or of relations.

It was the same in initial days of pregnancy also - I want to be a mother like a girl says I want this doll. A woman would think am I in the position right now to take care of this child? It was a case of what she wanted and not what was beneficial for the coming child. This lack of mature decision making has been evident in every one of her actions.

While working in the movie "why cant I fulfil both the roles?" Everywhere her thought process has been child like. I am not saying she is childish but yes is child like unable to understand like an adult that in life one has to forego a lot of things..

RK in his insecurity is destroying their relationship and MB is helping him do it by being everything that a man does not want in a wife.

After the initial physical attraction wears off the relationship works on maturity and mutual understanding of the couple. MB is neither matured nor understands her husband.


Thanks Shruti 😊
Totally agree with the lines in bold...in fact every line almost 😆
She was so perceptive in pre-unwedding days...even after unwedding i could relate to her. But now she is a stagnant character sacrificed at the altar of glorification by the CVs
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: amrithas

Loved your post n insights. My sincere hope is CVs hear this and realize they need to make their heroine grow up not glorify all her stupidity. They'll be doing all of us a favor!

Thanks Amy 😳
I want the pre-unwedding Madhu back
She was the real woman deserving to be a wife and lover.
This one i dont even recognize !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: maria090

awesome post superb analysis😳
why CV destroy RK character , this is not a old RK ,

i don't liked this RK , i loved smart, confident, RK ,

Thanks Maria 😳
CVs ko koi jaake butcher karo 😡
Maybe then they will understand our pain

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