At the point where turmoil turns to clarity!

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Friends, today's episode seemed to me to be a very important episode in this "pregnancy track". The episode contained both elements - the turmoil of a bad situation getting so urgent as to reach breaking point, and at the same time glimmers of a solution also coming into sight.

It is often said that when sailors sail the high seas between two islands, sometimes they see the shores of the destination island in the distance even before they've completely lost sight of the shores of the island they've left behind. Today's episode was exactly like that, and Jodha and Jalal seem to have reached that midpoint from where the difficulty and the solution were both in view. The episode thus was what I'd like to call a "tilting point".

Another very important aspect of this episode I want to specially emphasize is that despite the dialogues that Jodha spoke to Jalal, and despite there being hardly any words from Jalal in response, it seemed to me as if the deep truth of their "mutual trustworthiness" had already started hitting them both. Both of them gave signs that they did not feel that the external events were the whole truth - and both were in a "seeking mode" reaching for clarity and justice. They just found different ways to manifest this mental state they were in. She was voluble, he was quiet.

And finally, to my great happiness, Salima seems to have a strong role to play in the evolution of events from hereon. Not only is Salima helping with this case, but the greater role of Salima as the fourth element (in the quadrangular marital arrangement of Jodha-Jalal-Ruqaiya-Salima) has become clear. There has emerged clarity on a definite niche that Salima can occupy as the "mentoring force", helping the other younger three players maintain their perspectives in this multi-party marriage.

Okay, so now let me get to the three big topics in my analysis of this episode ...

The vile false rumours and their widespread ramifications

The episode started off with Resham and Hoshiyaar spreading false rumours of Jodha's infidelity to the rest of the harem. Whispers grew louder, speculations became rife, and curiosity as to who was the man who impregnated Jodha became the question of the hour. Moti, inadvertently entering this situation, was soon besieged by so many insinuations about Jodha's character that she had to make a hasty defence of Jodha and run away as fast as she could.

She reached Jodha's room but was unable to quite get herself to explain the whole grisly thing to Jodha. But then came along Maham ready to fill in the blanks. She said two or three things that added up to a lot:

a. She told Jodha there were rumours afloat, and they were widespread, that Jodha was pregnant with another man's child and had cuckolded Jalal.

b. She also said that she as the Badi Ammi of Jalal and also the highest official in the court, would do her utmost to try and quell the rumours because she could not stand the humiliation of both Jalal and Jodha. Jodha could trust Maham just as Maham trusted Jodha's story of innocence in this affair!

c. She then said to herself that she would leave no stone unturned to locate Jodha's lover for now Jalal was surely faced with the only option of executing Jodha.

Moti immediately warned Jodha that Maham may well be the person spreading these rumours and that Jodha must never ever trust her. Jodha of course was in such a daze that she barely seemed to pick up what Moti was telling her. She was more concerned about how her private conversation with Jalal had been leaked.

Much later in the episode, Maham was seen rushing to Hamida's room where presumably she had been summoned by Hamida. There Hamida had already heard the sordid rumours from Gulbadan Begum of what the harem was all agog about! Hamida wanted more confirmation and Maham was happy to provide that, albeit with a bit of "faked reserve". Maham said it was true that the rumours were spreading about Jodha's baby being fathered by someone else and not Jalal, but added that there may be no smoke without fire! Immediately, Hamida ordered the other ladies to leave and sought to know one-to-one from Maham what she meant by that innuendo. And Maham then told her she had personally overheard Jodha and Jalal talking about how they both had never slept together and thus Jalal was questioning the child's paternity.

Hamida directly marched into Jodha's room, asked Jodha to no longer call her a mother, and said the matter was now political and no longer just domestic. She blew fire at Jodha asking: "Who is the father of this illegitimate child?" ... leaving Jodha in such shock that the tears in her eyes seemed to freeze.

With these rumblings, the news about Jodha seemed to be flowing everywhere from the lowest to the highest quarters of the palace, and to no one's surprise, Maham was rushing about as the chief arsonist-cum-fire-douser! The situation has reached a point of such urgency now that it demands immediate action action from Jalal ... when he realises what is happening, will have to act like lightning to control damage.

The tarazu: perfect symbolism of the need for a just solution

Pushed to a corner by the wildly spreading rumours, Jodha sought out Jalal, who she found standing next to the tarazu which had just two days ago being used to do the Koodadaan on her birthday!

Jalal was not the same Jalal we had last seen in the Diwan-E-Aam where he was ruthless, merciless, loud, rough and spitting venom. He was today a spent man. All the fury seemed to have left him in a spaced-out state. He just stood still and pensive there till Jodha appeared before him and took her position on the opposite side of the tarazu.

Both seemed to be in the same boat. He seemed quietly seeking the truth, she seemed to to seek the truth via emotional words. Both of them looked fed up and in desperate need of an end to the impasse between them. The Diwan-E-Aam incident seemed to have demolished his energy, and the rumours of her infidelity seemed to have sucked out her strength. Both of them looked like they were nearing breaking point. And both of them looked they had already been hit at some deep inner level with the realisation that maybe the other one was telling the truth after all!

It is in this context that we have to see what Jodha started saying to Jalal. It was not her usual diatribe. It was a speech that had undertones of "Please, I've had enough!" ... and as he listened with resigned patience he too seemed to be saying silently "I too have had enough!"

Jodha started telling him that she was talking to him not as the Shahenshah, but as her pati. She asked him to dispense "nyaya" pointing to the tarazu as the perfect symbol of what he now needed to do ... i.e. weigh their two "truths" against each other to see which one was the heavier truth!

Jodha also spoke to Jalal of the trust breakdown in their marriage, which was never very strong to start with. She removed her wedding ring and returned it to him saying it was meaningless in a relationship devoid of trust. She then said: "Please weigh both the sides of this issue - my beliefs of you and your beliefs of me - and let me know your decision fast! For nothing can be worse for a woman, a Rajvanshi princess or a Begum of the Sultanate - whichever way you look at me - than her own husband casting a shadow on her fidelity and the paternity of the chiild she was carrying, especially when she was innocent. Please weigh the issues to your satisfaction and please do me the favour of letting me know what you think I should do in my situation!"

I thought the Creatives used the symbolism of the tarazu splendidly today, because the theme behind this interaction of Jodha and Jalal seeemed all about a "seek for the real truth" through the weighing of the contradictory factors of the issue at hand. Although when Jodha spoke about weighing options to Jalal, it looked like a simple issue of just her version of the story versus his, the variables before Jalal were actually more complex:

a. One level of their conflict was between the two unpalatable explanations of how Jodha may have got pregnant. Her explanation was that Jalal had made her pregnant on that stromy night. His explanation was that since they have never slept together someone else may have fathered Jodha's child. These two factors thus needed to be loaded on the two opposite plates of the tarazu.

b. At an entirely different level of the issue, there seemed to be a conflict between the Power of the Mughal sultanate versus the Rajvanshi code of honour, where both sides felt that their own versions of the "truth" were needed to save their systems of belief and practice from insult and humiliation.

c. At a third level, the conflict seemed between Jodha and Jalal in their personal capacities as just man and wife, versus their official positions as Shahenshah and Begum. The tarazu plates needed to accommodate the personal aspect of the relationship as a factor weighed against their roles and responsibilities of the positions they held as King and Queen.

No surprises then that Jalal was seen in his court and his room later toying with the wedding ring in his hand looking like he was not enjoying being dumped with the responsibility of actually delivering his decision to Jodha.

Salima brings wisdom and the route to a breakthrough

Jalal turned to Salima as his friend, philosopher and guide after much private thought. He needed counsel, another mind to think with him, but as he told Salima, he did not think he could discuss this issue with Ruqaiaya as she had not the bandwidth or depth to handle it!

Salima in fact reached Jalal's room after his summons in a state of illness. She was exhibiting food-poisoning symptoms herself almost like Jodha's (no doubt from the spoonful of Jodha's contaminated milk she had tasted in the kitchen). But probably because she had drunk so little of the milk, she had mild symptoms and could walk to Jalal's room.

There Jalal bared his whole issue to her, saying Bairam Khan had always lauded her sagacity and he too wanted her counsel. He told her everything about the issue at hand - starting right from the stormy night, the wrapping of Jodha in blankets, the subsequent pregnancy diagnosis of the hakim and the ensuing doubts that he and Jodha had got about each other's trustworthiness.

The wonderful Salima, gracious as always, said something that so pleased my ears! She said to Jalal: "Both of you, you and Jodha, could be telling the truth. I trust you to be true always, and as for Jodha I trust her integrity completely!" This made Jalal sit up for Salima was no mean reference, he trusted her wisdom and her words, and she was vouching for Jodha without any reserve!

Salima further told Jalal that when Rahim was to be born, his mother (the earlier wife of Bairam Khan) went through the same sort of dilemma as a result of misdiagnosis by a Hakim who right upto the third month of the pregnancy failed to detect it, and later apolosied for her gross error. Salima gave Jalal hope that he could be right, Jodha could be right and the Hakim could be wrong.

The moment this realisation hit him, he could barely sit - and he sprang up and went out of the room calling Salima to go wiith him. What they will do tomorrow is just my guess. They may accost the Hakim for more proof of the pregnancy diagnosis, or they may go directly to the Maulana (if he is still there) and ask him to give a second opinion. And they may thus arrive at the happy conclusion that Jodha is not pregnant after all!

Two more guesses:

a. Regarding the precap scene, it looks as if Jodha is again berating Jalal (near that tarazu again)with all her old arguments (ie."You broke your promises to me on that stormy night, you then accused me of infiidelity, all I feel for you is ghrna!"). These look like familiar words but I wouldn't be misled by this precap. I feel this scene may happen tomorrow as an after-shock after Hamida shouts at Jodha. An angry Jodha must be venting at Jalal. But at the same time Jalal may have had time to go with Salima to the Hakim and the Maulana and he must have therefore come to the tarazu area to tell Jodha that she needs to go for the second examination. So I expect Jalal will silently hear out Jodha's ventings and then tell her that a happy solution is in sight. And that should shut her up in a second!

b. Regarding Salima's stomach ailment symptoms, I think the same Maulana tomorrow may say she too is having the same symptoms of Jodha, and thus Jalal will have to investigate what is being fed to Jodha that Salima has also tasted. Next week, we may see the investigations by Jalal for catching the the culprits who masterminded the food-poisoning idea and the rumour-mongering idea!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Brilliantly written Mansi 👏⭐️
There has to be a breakthrough now. Jodha has faced the ultimate humiliation and stands hurt and shocked beyond words. Still what was evident today was Grace under Fire ! I was in awe of Jodha today.


"Dignity is like a perfume; those who use it are scarcely conscious of it."

Her dignity... forthrightness... honesty ...that compels her to bear the blow of absolute deceit and dishonesty...to bear the ultimate insult on her honor ...to be able to still hold her head high and demand swift justice from a Shahenshah...the dignity that compels a husband and a Emperor to lower his gaze...to pause ...to think !

All hopes are on Salima Begum to bring an end to this distasteful incident since no real culprit will be punished , yet again.





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Hey Mansi,
Methinks the imperial thinking cap flew onto the said imperial cranium today,, the matter inside of which has started to whir...he has calmed...and therefore the dilemma becomes clearer...errr if one can use the paradox here..., that there really is a conundrum ...Damsel is not faking...her diatribe to him is sincere, and he can see that...and one can also see that there is very little credence given here to the theory of Immaculate Conception...if there ever was one to begin with...
So...Raging Bull is now Thinking Bull...sheesh!...no innuendo meant here..😆
But now begins the phase of data assimilation and analysis...for which the calmest mind in the harem was summoned posthaste...
Salima's assertion that Jodha's integrity is one that she can swear her faith by, is the one statement that totally wakes Mr...sorry,His Highness, The Imperial Bull here...batti chamki and how...😊
That single statement...was what stood out today, for me and for his Imperiousness...apparently...and all his dendrites and neurons practically lit up simultaneously...
Niccola, meanwhile is setting forest fires in mostly dry wood brains...it really doesn't take much effort in that harem...
Hamida, now...was interesting...that she believed this bit of flummery, over her repeated conviction of Jodha's unimpeachable integrity...was strange...if the Mom thinking cap had to be on, it had to be during the near death experience of her progeny ...this one...and this doubt...nah...that math don't work..😡...
That was a bad bit of storyline from the scripties ...
As for the Jodhabashers...she doesn't see it from his angle, because to her there is no cause for it...after all, she is in the best position to know about the absence of any conjugal relations...and she has been given precious little cause to believe in him...he has begun reforming only recently...tu ne te souviens pas??
Hurt takes you back to a baseline...that of nil or bar one on the logarithmic scale of expectations here...
Trust..is when the baseline shifts forward...his has begun...hers...will ...in time...
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Nice post mansi ,

For me the episode was more or less a filler one with Maham acting as a typical "do dhaari talwar "
and doing what she does best , insinuating and plotting against jodha.


As far as jodha and jalal are concerned , i was sad to see that they both were actually fed up of all that was going around them. For once i felt how important privacy is for the peace of your mind .How miserable both felt with their secrets coming out in open , the ignominy jodha had to go through today with even hamida launching into brusque allegations too .

Today's potrayal of characters except salima's left me with distasteful feeling , even though salima did bonafide jodha's integrity and paved way for a definite solution.

It's difficult for me to view this show as a fiction because these are the characters who have lived a very respectful and grand lives and to bring them to such close corners is what does not suit my taste but for my love and part addiction of JA , i convince myself to go with this one too , in the hope of something magical following this track.

What is about to happen is not a secret for any of us but iam more interested in the results or the repercussions of this track. I for one , do not want jalal n jodha to go back to the same equation but with "Ghrina "word featuring twice since yesterday , it seem more unlikely. At this point iam really not sure about what C.V's are trying to achieve here. What i mean is , that for jodha and jalal to go through emotional turmoil is a reaction and i don't mind it ,rather any of it , feeling anger, betrayal , hatred for each other is okay but not learning a lesson of this pivoting incident in their life does not go well with me or may be with all of us intelligent and logical viewers . I feel that the treatment of this show as far as jodha's decisions and behaviour is concerned is very modern but not diligent . My expectation is equal , from both the leads , jodha and jalal to come together again and start a afresh, with jodha blaming jalal or vice versa would not sit well with me and for me than this track would be nothing but mere mockery of historical figures . I for once would want to know as to where their relationship is heading and it is not a big deal to to ask for , from the C.V's as we have already gone through almost 100 episode with the same theme , Ghrina .


From where I see , they both are equally responsible for this situation going out of hand and they both should own it .It is like taarazu , as you have mentioned , which symbolizes a household and that cannot run with one weighing down the other .

To me the precap looked like yet another disaster with no realization of the actual situation both of of them have managed to get out of but as you pointed out , lets not be judgmental about the whole scene right now .

How nice it would be that for once jodha standing next to her husband and having a calm discussion about what went wrong. I still cannot forget how calm was salima- jalal conversation , it felt like breath of fresh air in comparison to jalal-ruqaiya- jodha blame game .Just like jodha and jalal , I too want peace and normalcy returning to my favourite show .

Kashi

My palate is aching for a different taste and romance could would do me good.😉




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I will give my view afterwards...having fever...under medications...its making me drowsy
but awesome analysis mansi di...
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Friends, today's episode seemed to me to be a very important episode in this "pregnancy track". The episode contained both elements - the turmoil of a bad situation getting so urgent as to reach breaking point, and at the same glimmers of a solution also came into sight.

It is often said that when sailors sail the high seas between two islands, sometimes they see the shores of the destination island in the distance even before they've completely lost sight of the shores of the island they've left behind. Today's episode was exactly like that, and Jodha and Jalal seem to have reached that midpoint from where the difficulty and the solution were both in view. The episode thus was what I'd like to call a "tilting point".

Nice!

Another very important aspect of this episode I want to specially emphasize is that despite the dialogues that Jodha spoke to Jalal, and despite there being hardly any words from Jalal in response, it seemed to me as if the deep truth of their "mutual trustworthiness" had already started hitting them both. Both of them gave signs that they did not feel that the external events were the whole truth - and both were in a "seeking mode" reaching for clarity and justice. They just found different ways to manifest this mental state they were in. She was voluble, he was quiet.

Very true.. Each of them expressed it differently

And finally, to my great happiness, Salima seems to have a strong role to play in the evolution of events from hereon. Not only is Salima helping with this case, but the greater role of Salima as the fourth element (in the quadrangular marital arrangement of Jodha-Jalal-Ruqaiya-Salima) has become clear. There has emerged clarity on a definite niche that Salima can occupy as the "mentoring force", helping the other younger three players maintain their perspectives in this multi-party marriage.

What a good , dignified, calm soul...And thankfully Jalaal chose her to help him in this situation...

Okay, so now let me get to the three big topics in my analysis of this episode ...

The vile false rumours and their widespread ramifications

The episode started off with Resham and Hoshiyaar spreading false rumours of Jodha's infidelity to the rest of the harem. Whispers grew louder, speculations became rife, and curiosity as to who was the man who impregnated Jodha became the question of the hour. Moti, inadvertently entering this situation, was soon besieged by so many insinuations about Jodha's character that she had to make a hasty defence of Jodha and run away as fast as she could.

She reached Jodha's room but was unable to quite get herself to explain the whole grisly thing to Jodha. But then came along Maham ready to fill in the blanks. She said two or three things that added up to a lot:

a. She told Jodha there were rumours afloat, and they were widespread, that Jodha was pregnant with another man's child and had cuckolded Jalal.

b. She also said that she as the Badi Ammi of Jalal and also the highest official in the court, would do her utmost to try and quell the rumours because she could not stand the humiliation of both Jalal and Jodha. Jodha could trust Maham just as Maham trusted Jodha's story of innocence in this affair!

c. She then said to herself that she would leave no stone unturned to locate Jodha's lover for now Jalal was surely faced with the only option of executing Jodha.

Moti immediately warned Jodha that Maham may well be the person spreading these rumours and that Jodha must never ever trust her. Jodha of course was in such a daze that she barely seemed to pick up what Moti was telling her. She was more concerned about how her private conversation with Jalal had been leaked.

Much later in the episode, Maham was seen rushing to Hamida's room where presumably she had been summoned by Hamida. There Hamida had already heard the sordid rumours from Gulbadan Begum of what the harem was all agog about! Hamida wanted more confirmation and Maham was happy to provide that, albeit with a bit of "faked reserve". Maham said it was true that the rumours were spreading about Jodha's baby being fathered by someone else and not Jalal, but added that there may be no smoke without fire! Immediately, Hamida ordered the other ladies to leave and sought to know one-to-one from Maham what she meant by that innuendo. And Maham then told her she had personally overheard Jodha and Jalal talking about how they both had never slept together and thus Jalal was questioning the child's paternity.

Hamida directly marched into Jodha's room, asked Jodha to no longer call her a mother, and said the matter was now political and no longer just domestic. She blew fire at Jodha asking: "Who is the father of this illegitimate child?" ... leaving Jodha in such shock that the tears in her eyes seemed to freeze.

I would've liked it better had Hamida atleast asked Jodha or Jalaal in private before marching the way she did...

With these rumblings, the news about Jodha seemed to be flowing everywhere from the lowest to the highest quarters of the palace, and to no one's surprise, Maham was rushing about as the chief arsonist-cum-fire-douser! The situation has reached a point of such urgency now that it demands immediate action action from Jalal ... when he realises what is happening, will have to act like lightning to control damage.

The tarazu: perfect symbolism of the need for a just solution

Pushed to a corner by the wildly spreading rumours, Jodha sought out Jalal, who she found standing next to the tarazu which had just two days ago being used to do the Koodadaan on her birthday!

Jalal was not the same Jalal we had last seen in the Diwan-E-Aam where he was ruthless, merciless, loud, rough and spitting venom. He was today a spent man. All the fury seemed to have left him in a spaced-out state. He just stood still and pensive there till Jodha appeared before him and took her position on the opposite side of the tarazu.

He was exhausted. Physically/Mentally... But I liked the fact that the confrontation with Jodha from he previous day was making him pause and think deep even before she sought justice from him...

Both seemed to be in the same boat. He seemed quietly seeking the truth, she seemed to to seek the truth via emotional words. Both of them looked fed up and in desperate need of an end to the impasse between them. The Diwan-E-Aam incident seemed to have demolished his energy, and the rumours of her infidelity seemed to have sucked out her strength. Both of them looked like they were nearing breaking point. And both of them looked they had already been hit at some deep inner level with the realisation that maybe the other one was telling the truth after all!

It is in this context that we have to see what Jodha started saying to Jalal. It was not her usual diatribe. It was a speech that had undertones of "Please, I've had enough!" ... and as he listened with resigned patience he too seemed to be saying silently "I too have had enough!"

Jodha started telling him that she was talking to him not as the Shahenshah, but as her pati. She asked him to dispense "nyaya" pointing to the tarazu as the perfect symbol of what he now needed to do ... i.e. weigh their two "truths" against each other to see which one was the heavier truth!

Jodha also spoke to Jalal of the trust breakdown in their marriage, which was never very strong to start with. She removed her wedding ring and returned it to him saying it was meaningless in a relationship devoid of trust. She then said: "Please weigh both the sides of this issue - my beliefs of you and your beliefs of me - and let me know your decision fast! For nothing can be worse for a woman, a Rajvanshi princess or a Begum of the Sultanate - whichever way you look at me - than her own husband casting a shadow on her fidelity and the paternity of the chiild she was carrying, especially when she was innocent. Please weigh the issues to your satisfaction and please do me the favour of letting me know what you think I should do in my situation!"

The scene couldnt have been any better. Jodha was earnest and moving in her request for justice.She didn't blame but instead asked him to give her a solution. Them standing in front of a scale, and the wind blowing hard, it was spectacular!

I thought the Creatives used the symbolism of the tarazu splendidly today, because the theme behind this interaction of Jodha and Jalal seeemed all about a "seek for the real truth" through the weighing of the contradictory factors of the issue at hand. Although when Jodha spoke about weighing options to Jalal, it looked like a simple issue of just her version of the story versus his, the variables before Jalal were actually more complex:

a. One level of their conflict was between the two unpalatable explanations of how Jodha may have got pregnant. Her explanation was that Jalal had made her pregnant on that stromy night. His explanation was that since they have never slept together someone else may have fathered Jodha's child. These two factors thus needed to be loaded on the two opposite plates of the tarazu.

b. At an entirely different level of the issue, there seemed to be a conflict between the Power of the Mughal sultanate versus the Rajvanshi code of honour, where both sides felt that their own versions of the "truth" were needed to save their systems of belief and practice from insult and humiliation.

c. At a third level, the conflict seemed between Jodha and Jalal in their personal capacities as just man and wife, versus their official positions as Shahenshah and Begum. The tarazu plates needed to accommodate the personal aspect of the relationship as a factor weighed against their roles and responsibilities of the positions they held as King and Queen.

No surprises then that Jalal was seen in his court and his room later toying with the wedding ring in his hand looking like he was not enjoying being dumped with the responsibility of actually delivering his decision to Jodha.

Jalaal did take the homework given by his chudail wife (who was least chudail like today) very seriously! Adkha sahib didn't think Jalaal actually paid attention to what went on in the court.

Salima brings wisdom and the route to a breakthrough

Jalal turned to Salima as his friend, philosopher and guide after much private thought. He needed counsel, another mind to think with him, but as he told Salima, he did not think he could discuss this issue with Ruqaiaya as she had not the bandwidth or depth to handle it!

Salima in fact reached Jalal's room after his summons in a state of illness. She was exhibiting food-poisoning symptoms herself almost like Jodha's (no doubt from the spoonful of Jodha's contaminated milk she had tasted in the kitchen). But probably because she had drunk so little of the milk, she had mild symptoms and could walk to Jalal's room.

There Jalal bared his whole issue to her, saying Bairam Khan had always lauded her sagacity and he too wanted her counsel. He told her everything about the issue at hand - starting right from the stormy night, the wrapping of Jodha in blankets, the subsequent pregnancy diagnosis of the hakim and the ensuing doubts that he and Jodha had got about each other's trustworthiness.

The wonderful Salima, gracious as always, said something that so pleased my ears! She said to Jalal: "Both of you, you and Jodha, could be telling the truth. I trust you to be true always, and as for Jodha I trust her integrity completely!" This made Jalal sit up for Salima was no mean reference, he trusted her wisdom and her words, and she was vouching for Jodha without any reserve!

Salima further told Jalal that when Rahim was to be born, his mother (the earlier wife of Bairam Khan) went through the same sort of dilemma as a result of misdiagnosis by a Hakim who right upto the third month of the pregnancy failed to detect it, and later apolosied for her gross error. Salima gave Jalal hope that he could be right, Jodha could be right and the Hakim could be wrong.

The moment this realisation hit him, he could barely sit - and he sprang up and went out of the room calling Salima to go wiith him. What they will do tomorrow is just my guess. They may accost the Hakim for more proof of the pregnancy diagnosis, or they may go directly to the Maulana (if he is still there) and ask him to give a second opinion. And they may thus arrive at the happy conclusion that Jodha is not pregnant after all!

Two more guesses:

a. Regarding the precap scene, it looks as if Jodha is again berating Jalal (near that tarazu again)with all her old arguments (ie."You broke your promises to me on that stormy night, you then accused me of infiidelity, all I feel for you is ghrna!"). These look like familiar words but I wouldn't be misled by this precap. I feel this scene may happen tomorrow as an after-shock after Hamida shouts at Jodha. An angry Jodha must be venting at Jalal. But at the same time Jalal may have had time to go with Salima to the Hakim and the Maulana and he must have therefore come to the tarazu area to tell Jodha that she needs to go for the second examination. So I expect Jalal will silently hear out Jodha's ventings and then tell her that a happy solution is in sight. And that should shut her up in a second!

I have a feeling that , Jalaal might've gone to Jodha's chamber and actually owned up to being the father of the kid. This is to buy some time to sort the issue. This would've totally confused Jodha even more and hence the outburst.

b.

Regarding Salima's stomach ailment symptoms, I think the same Maulana tomorrow may say she too is having the same symptoms of Jodha, and thus Jalal will have to investigate what is being fed to Jodha that Salima has also tasted. Next week, we may see the investigations by Jalal for catching the the culprits who masterminded the food-poisoning idea and the rumour-mongering idea!

Two women that Jalaal ahsnt even touched proclaimed pregnant😊 Shouldn't take long for Jalaal to figure that😆

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Brilliant Analysis...loved every word of your post. Your post sits well with all of us not just jalal. I really loved your lines for jalal...Im waiting to see how he mends the broken relationships and seeks jodha's foregiveness😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonia_1

Brilliantly written Mansi 👏⭐️

There has to be a breakthrough now. Jodha has faced the ultimate humiliation and stands hurt and shocked beyond words. Still what was evident today was Grace under Fire ! I was in awe of Jodha today.


"Dignity is like a perfume; those who use it are scarcely conscious of it."

Her dignity... forthrightness... honesty ...that compels her to bear the blow of absolute deceit and dishonesty...to bear the ultimate insult on her honor ...to be able to still hold her head high and demand swift justice from a Shahenshah...the dignity that compels a husband and a Emperor to lower his gaze...to pause ...to think !

All hopes are on Salima Begum to bring an end to this distasteful incident since no real culprit will be punished , yet again.





Thanks Sonia. "Grace Under Fire" is a beautiful thought.
Today's episode i.e. Friday should be very interesting because the solutions of the puzzle will start falling into place.
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Originally posted by: LizBennett

Hey Mansi,
Methinks the imperial thinking cap flew onto the said imperial cranium today,, the matter inside of which has started to whir...he has calmed...and therefore the dilemma becomes clearer...errr if one can use the paradox here..., that there really is a conundrum ...Damsel is not faking...her diatribe to him is sincere, and he can see that...and one can also see that there is very little credence given here to the theory of Immaculate Conception...if there ever was one to begin with...
So...Raging Bull is now Thinking Bull...sheesh!...no innuendo meant here..😆
But now begins the phase of data assimilation and analysis...for which the calmest mind in the harem was summoned posthaste...
Salima's assertion that Jodha's integrity is one that she can swear her faith by, is the one statement that totally wakes Mr...sorry,His Highness, The Imperial Bull here...batti chamki and how...😊
That single statement...was what stood out today, for me and for his Imperiousness...apparently...and all his dendrites and neurons practically lit up simultaneously...
Niccola, meanwhile is setting forest fires in mostly dry wood brains...it really doesn't take much effort in that harem...
Hamida, now...was interesting...that she believed this bit of flummery, over her repeated conviction of Jodha's unimpeachable integrity...was strange...if the Mom thinking cap had to be on, it had to be during the near death experience of her progeny ...this one...and this doubt...nah...that math don't work..😡...
That was a bad bit of storyline from the scripties ...
As for the Jodhabashers...she doesn't see it from his angle, because to her there is no cause for it...after all, she is in the best position to know about the absence of any conjugal relations...and she has been given precious little cause to believe in him...he has begun reforming only recently...tu ne te souviens pas??
Hurt takes you back to a baseline...that of nil or bar one on the logarithmic scale of expectations here...
Trust..is when the baseline shifts forward...his has begun...hers...will ...in time...

I too thought it was a key moment when Salima vouched for Jodha's integrity. But did you see how Jalal loved to hear that! He has been wanting to hear something that shatters his premise that Jodha was having an affair.
After Salima said this he could barely sit. He was desperate to go and do something because he had heard the words he desperately wanted too hear that Jodha could never do such a thing to him!
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Originally posted by: ginco

Nice post mansi ,

For me the episode was more or less a filler one with Maham acting as a typical "do dhaari talwar "
and doing what she does best , insinuating and plotting against jodha.


No Kashi, not just a filler episode. Its importance as an episode is that it brought signs of clarity back after much hungama. That clarity is absolutely necessary and without iit the wounds would have continued to fester. For Jalal to think of asking Salima for advice itself shows that his mind has started thinking!

As far as jodha and jalal are concerned , i was sad to see that they both were actually fed up of all that was going around them. For once i felt how important privacy is for the peace of your mind .How miserable both felt with their secrets coming out in open , the ignominy jodha had to go through today with even hamida launching into brusque allegations too .

Today's potrayal of characters except salima's left me with distasteful feeling , even though salima did bonafide jodha's integrity and paved way for a definite solution.

It's difficult for me to view this show as a fiction because these are the characters who have lived a very respectful and grand lives and to bring them to such close corners is what does not suit my taste but for my love and part addiction of JA , i convince myself to go with this one too , in the hope of something magical following this track.
The storyline is like that, for which we can't blame the characters. They are pushed to a corner by circumstances. They are not going and standing in a corner out of choice! But yes, I too would love to see an end to this track and happier times ahead!

What is about to happen is not a secret for any of us but iam more interested in the results or the repercussions of this track. I for one , do not want jalal n jodha to go back to the same equation but with "Ghrina "word featuring twice since yesterday , it seem more unlikely. At this point iam really not sure about what C.V's are trying to achieve here. What i mean is , that for jodha and jalal to go through emotional turmoil is a reaction and i don't mind it ,rather any of it , feeling anger, betrayal , hatred for each other is okay but not learning a lesson of this pivoting incident in their life does not go well with me or may be with all of us intelligent and logical viewers . I feel that the treatment of this show as far as jodha's decisions and behaviour is concerned is very modern but not diligent . My expectation is equal , from both the leads , jodha and jalal to come together again and start a afresh, with jodha blaming jalal or vice versa would not sit well with me and for me than this track would be nothing but mere mockery of historical figures . I for once would want to know as to where their relationship is heading and it is not a big deal to to ask for , from the C.V's as we have already gone through almost 100 episode with the same theme , Ghrina .
I was not so perturbed by yesterday's rantings of Jodha simply because it was to be expected. How can someone not be angry after seeing the whole world around her casting aspersions on her character? Just because the word Ghrna comes again, the whole dialogue cannot be castigated. The old Ghrna was different, it was about active hate of him and his principles. This Ghrna is from a heart that is heavy under the weight of distress. And if the girl feels like raving and ranting about it, who else has she got to go and cry to? His shoulders are broad and deep. he will give her the support she needs. Yesterday he was in a daze himself, but believe me, today he will be galvanised!


From where I see , they both are equally responsible for this situation going out of hand and they both should own it .It is like taarazu , as you have mentioned , which symbolizes a household and that cannot run with one weighing down the other .

To me the precap looked like yet another disaster with no realization of the actual situation both of of them have managed to get out of but as you pointed out , lets not be judgmental about the whole scene right now .

How nice it would be that for once jodha standing next to her husband and having a calm discussion about what went wrong. I still cannot forget how calm was salima- jalal conversation , it felt like breath of fresh air in comparison to jalal-ruqaiya- jodha blame game .Just like jodha and jalal , I too want peace and normalcy returning to my favourite show .
Kashi, she cannot yet be calm when such horrible insinuations are flying around the country about her character. But after the pregnancy diagnosis is overruled, you will surely get your nice scene of them both talking it out. That scene has to come - for sure!

Kashi

My palate is aching for a different taste and romance could would do me good.😉




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