In defense of EVIL Shlok. A controversial position.

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dsr11

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Jayne

Shloak is not a misogynist...that he fell in love is indication of that.

He, however, is a chauvinist, and thinks nothing of sending his sister back with her husband to a home where she was abused and it boggles the imagination that the husband was not aware of it; plus he saw nothing wrong in Aasttha kneeling/touching his feet, etc.

Chauvinism usually runs deep, and it needs to be tackled on a daily basis.

Jayne,

I don't know if Shlok is going to send his sister back to her husband, Abhay. He doesn't like Abhay at all for whatever reasons he has. He doesn't like Abhay getting anywhere near Aastha. He didn't object to other chauvinistic rituals that many males don't object to. He may be just a 'regular' male😃, not an extreme chauvinist.

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Marybarton

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: dsr11
Marybarton,
Your posts are always wonderful, be it light-hearted ones or thought provoking ones. My experience with abuse is limited. My father never raised his hand on any of us. My mother, however, used to hit us sometimes when me and my brother really tested her patience. But neither of my parents ever showed any discrimination between me and my brother. They were a little more protective of me, but that's about it. I am guilty of raising my hand on my kids too, sometimes. I feel awful after that. Despite my lack of knowledge on the issue, I can understand how much strength it takes for anybody who has been through abuse, and not become an abuser. Kudos to all the survivors.

Regarding Varad, he was saying in one episode that he doesn't care to please anyone. He chose to stay away from family business but when the family really needs him in times of turmoil (Shlok-Journalist drama) he is there to help. He is the most mature of the three siblings. The fact that he didn't become the abuser says a lot.
Jyothi was raised to be inferior to her male siblings by her own mother. She does not have a fighting spirit. She might not have been educated much, so she is resigned to her fate. She probably learnt to live on whatever little crumbs of love that are thrown her way.

Thank you for being so open Dsr. I wish I could respond to everyone but I was away today, so I only got the read all the comments. Thank you all for taking part in the discussion.

Coming back to your comment Dsr, thank you for liking my posts. I write whatever plays most in my mind at a given moment. Varad honestly is the kid I have most compassion for. Maybe because I relate to him on some level. It is hard for me to be personal here, let me just say that I was not the favorite child. Psychology says parents have favorites even if they deny it. It is inevitable. I never wanted to be favorite, but I wanted to be equal and fought for it stupidly. It made me more unpopular against the saintly favorite 😆. Sometimes you are just the rebel/disliked one and none of your good intentions will change anything for you. Even as adults, children don't learn this. Human nature is to want to be liked. The mature thing to really do is let it go and not forget that you also love your siblings. Be who you are, be true to yourself and learn to love yourself.

Varad is strong because he came to terms with the fact that he cannot do anything to change it. It shows that he tried his hardest upto the point of even marrying for their convenience. But he knows he cannot please, so he doesn't care now. I am not sure he loves himself though, he seems like he really beats himself up about it. I noticed from the start that he has a strained relationship with both his parents. He probably knows a little about his father too. He is dutiful and will come to help like you said because he cannot deny his family in need. He tells his wife to give his family what they want - but if you notice, he doesn't do it himself. He's the guy who is there in need without expecting anything, he's the most unselfish child. Shlok does what he wants. Varad doesn't even ask for what's his right, like his wife's respect in that house. It was when he bitterly referred to himself as the looser with his parents by agreeing with Sojal did I really understand him. His character doesn't say much of anything, but that one line said a lot about the character.

All that said, who am I kidding, the CVs may change the character completely tomorrow. 😆 Reading too much into him.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Victim feels like a domestic pet sometimes.. always yearning for love and comfort.

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Namrutha

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Posted: 12 years ago

#24

You are so right, no one is born bad or manipulative or weak, it is the experiences in their life that shapes a human into what he/she is...It is easy to blame them, but their behavior can only be understood by someone who might have seen or gone through it.

An abuse is always the worse things to endure but physical abuse is nothing(external bruises will heal with time) when compared to mental torture, I'm not sure whether they can ever be normal again, may be with time,with tender loving care, with a good support system. May the cvs be successful in showing some light as their are many victims of abuse around us (some acknowledges but some doesn't due to shame) who badly need this reassurance that there is still hope for a normal life.

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dsr11

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Marybarton,

Shlok's character is behaving exactly like you mentioned. He is going to be a very demanding lover, who likes to be in control all the time. He probably is planning to subdue her after marriage in a deceptive way as shown in the initial promos. loving it.

Edited by dsr11 - 12 years ago

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Munni

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Very well analyzed post Mary 👍🏼

Human behavior is more susceptible to external stimuli, Shlok's behavior has a very strong reason, which you have listed them all .

No one is born evil, it's always the nurture and the environment which builds the character of a person . Shlok is not an outright evil as we all know.. but he has different and darker shades to his character

A household like the Agnihotri's, profoundly stiff and disconnected and disgruntled, with no freedom of expression, freedom to smile or laugh with family members, no space for love, friendship, affection and warmth, attribute to gloomy and dispassionate behavior in kids and as we know that NA, the puppeteer always makes Anjali do the dirty work there by Shlok hates Anjali and worships and hold his dad in a higher pedestal to worship. so he is inhibiting the traits of "never take a NO for anything" being stubborn to the extent of getting what they want either by hook or crook., and being extremely manipulative, to name a few. I am not sure if Shlok will abuse Aastha the way NA does to Anjali .. because logically Shlok is still unaware of this side of his dad ... so him abusing Aastha may not be the case .

And your point regarding Shlok craving for love and relations is very true, which we will see in going further, the kids in such disgruntled family often crave for love, care, trust and relations... and here Aastha has to live every relation to Shlok .be a wife, a sister, a mother, a friend.. in all this Aastha's freedom will be choked.. as in a relation giving space to each other is very important .. and if she threatens to stay away, or demand for her space that is when she will have to face the dire from Shlok . In future I guess, Shlok loves her to an extent that it suffocates her...

His anger and his possessive nature are due to the helplessness of not able to get the needed love, care, affection from the family or elsewhere(swati).. he is getting that from Aastha, who trusts him blindly and who loves him unconditionally .. he would be clinging and holding tight on her emotions ..he wants to be the center of her world and this is when he will not be able to take any rejection from her .

Varad is different, he is highly dissatisfied with his life, but he accepted it and his reason for being the way he is because of his daughter and the mutual love between the siblings, but is he happy ..no, for that matter NO ONE in Agnihotri house is happy

the other important thing which I can add in this topic is nature vs nurture., Nature is what qualities you get from your biological parents, as you said the traits of NA are by nature from the roots.. and Nurture. is the environment, the school, home, siblings and friends (strangely not a single friend of Shlok is shown in the show) holds a key relevance in shaping up one's character. Shlok's character has different shades owing to the various factors in life. but above nature and nurture is one's own "conscience" of what is right and what is wrong . we see the glimpses of it in Shlok every now and then and in future this very conscience of his, will get him out of his darker shades.

I haven't personally seen any such families *touchwood* but read about a lot of such families and kids in US, giving the right atmosphere for kids is the responsibility of parents as the healthy childhood shapes up a person into a good human being

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