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Posted: 11 years ago
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Why is it so wrong for two unattached people to be together?

Saanchi has lived for long without any emotional or physical solace. DV is madly in love with her and willing to offer her his heart and himself on a platter. Is it so wrong if she takes him up on the offer for a brief while even? Wouldn't that be the most natural thing to happen?

Under the circumstances, a relationship is most likely to evolve before the topic of marriage even comes up. And I don't mean a platonic relationship! I wonder if the show will go that route! Maybe not given that our audiences are still shackled by age old traditions and customs, unwilling to look beyond the bounds of convention at least so far as TV shows go!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well, that is too advanced for Indian TV - at least if they are the leads. It happens to side characters but not leads, as far as I know - they are supposed to be on the straight and narrow.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble

Well, that is too advanced for Indian TV - at least if they are the leads. It happens to side characters but not leads, as far as I know - they are supposed to be on the straight and narrow.


The funny thing is we see it happening all around us! Even our cinema has moved out of the straight and the narrow path! But TV continues to pontificate on Indian traditions and morals. Yet, one look at Ekta's shows and you really begin to wonder!

In a romance like this, how do you take the physical out of the equation? I mean DV's words were brimming with sensuality yesterday. It would be so natural for them to slip into a physical comfort zone. I am not saying it should happen that way, just that it would be most realistic if it did!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It is not wrong for two unattached people to be together. But their inherent personalities matter. Saachi's personality has been shown as a very conservative one from the very beginning so it's unlikely that she will jump into a physical relationship for the heck of it. Plus I don't see how they can jump into such a relationship given the way they are surrounded by Aaji-Naani and the entire shebang 24/7. What is one to do under these circumstances? Start living together? Or go for nightly sojourns to some seedy motel?

DV's words spoke of love before sensuality...it was a mature speech on love but it did not anywhere indicate that it could seperate Saachi from her realities which include her family and responsibilities...under such circumstances the most likely way they can get together is by marriage only.

DV wants to be there for her...in every sense...be it the emotional support or the deeper passionate one...since the latter is not practical for them as this point, they are going with the emotional support.


So as I said...such relationships and their evolution depends on the PERSONALITIES of the individuals involved...it is not merely society that holds Saachi back...she has her own set of principles and is unlikely to throw all caution to the wind to take off on some sexual discovery.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Are you taking about dating or just a physical relationship?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks


The funny thing is we see it happening all around us! Even our cinema has moved out of the straight and the narrow path! But TV continues to pontificate on Indian traditions and morals. Yet, one look at Ekta's shows and you really begin to wonder!

In a romance like this, how do you take the physical out of the equation? I mean DV's words were brimming with sensuality yesterday. It would be so natural for them to slip into a physical comfort zone. I am not saying it should happen that way, just that it would be most realistic if it did!


I know! But TV became even more conservative after the focus shifted from urban to rural locales - THings actually used to be bolder before.

And you are so right - DV's words yesterday were indeed sensual and painted a picture of such luxuriant intimacy. It WOULD be natural - and given these times where attraction, love and marriage can all be present in different sets of the Venn diagram called relationships... but traditional values reign here, irrespective of what the current trends are.

I'm ok with that, I guess. Because I find myself being irritated with promiscuity just for the sake of it - which is happening in a lot of Bollywood movies,these days.
I don't find that Saachi or Dhruv are less desirable or sexy either separately or together because they are more conservative in their values. In fact, it adds a certain piquancy.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble


I'm ok with that, I guess. Because I find myself being irritated with promiscuity just for the sake of it - which is happening in a lot of Bollywood movies,these days.
I don't find that Saachi or Dhruv are less desirable or sexy either separately or together because they are more conservative in their values. In fact, it adds a certain piquancy.
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I completely agree with the bold, Bubble...promiscuity for the sake of it irritates me too and Bollywood by and large doesn't handle modern evolving relationships MATURELY...they are used more for the titillation factor than on a maturity level.

And I like the point you made about Saachi-Dhruv not being any less interesting just because they happen to be more conservative than this in their values.

Every relationship has its own graph...and depends on the individual personalities involved...I don't see the scope for a natural physical relationship b/w these two individuals in this story...unless they get carried away in their emotions one day...Ekta style😆...J/K...for such a thing to happen, a lot has to change in Saachi's viewpoint first...she isn't exactly overwhelmed with attraction enough to get carried away...and she's not looking to experiment either.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

It is not wrong for two unattached people to be together. But their inherent personalities matter. Saachi's personality has been shown as a very conservative one from the very beginning so it's unlikely that she will jump into a physical relationship for the heck of it. Plus I don't see how they can jump into such a relationship given the way they are surrounded by Aaji-Naani and the entire shebang 24/7. What is one to do under these circumstances? Start living together? Or go for nightly sojourns to some seedy motel?

DV's words spoke of love before sensuality...it was a mature speech on love but it did not anywhere indicate that it could seperate Saachi from her realities which include her family and responsibilities...under such circumstances the most likely way they can get together is by marriage only.

DV wants to be there for her...in every sense...be it the emotional support or the deeper passionate one...since the latter is not practical for them as this point, they are going with the emotional support.


So as I said...such relationships and their evolution depends on the PERSONALITIES of the individuals involved...it is not merely society that holds Saachi back...she has her own set of principles and is unlikely to throw all caution to the wind to take off on some sexual discovery.


I agree that their circumstances are not conducive to physical intimacy. Sanchi's family is around them all the time,

However, conservative or otherwise, she is a woman in her thirties. A woman who understands her sexuality and would certainly yearn to celebrate it at some point or the other. And when you have a man who adores you in every which way, the temptation is bound to be there. Whether she gives in or not is another story but the feelings are bound to be there. And I don't think it is such a big deal. That is all my point is!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: asha222

Are you taking about dating or just a physical relationship?


Of course not just a physical relationship..,,the emotional bond that has evolved between them is the bedrock of the relationship...slipping into the physical zone thereafter is only too normal...not necessary that marriage has to be the next destination...!
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Originally posted by: soapbubble


I know! But TV became even more conservative after the focus shifted from urban to rural locales - THings actually used to be bolder before.

And you are so right - DV's words yesterday were indeed sensual and painted a picture of such luxuriant intimacy. It WOULD be natural - and given these times where attraction, love and marriage can all be present in different sets of the Venn diagram called relationships... but traditional values reign here, irrespective of what the current trends are.

I'm ok with that, I guess. Because I find myself being irritated with promiscuity just for the sake of it - which is happening in a lot of Bollywood movies,these days.
I don't find that Saachi or Dhruv are less desirable or sexy either separately or together because they are more conservative in their values. In fact, it adds a certain piquancy.
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My point was not about what appeals is to me as a viewer...and frankly, promiscuity was not the point even...I don't think a purely sexual relationship is even possible between them...it is already started as an affair of the heart from DV's side at least...but as the relationship progresses, if circumstances oblige, my contention is that in a real world they are more likely to become lovers...before the marriage step is taken...but if course, all of this is a matter of individual choice...!

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