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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Knowledge is inherent in man; no knowledge comes from outside; it is all inside.
We say Newton discovered gravitation. Was it sitting anywhere waiting for him?
It was in his own mind; the time came and he found it out.
All knowledge that the world has ever received comes from the mind;
the infinite library of the universe is in our own mind.
The external world is simply the suggestion, the occasion, which sets you to study your own mind." Swami Vivekananda

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The above quotation does'nt suit for learning English or anyother course which is a "necessity" for our livelihood or career.Whether we agree or not good English makes a difference.Only good english does'nt fetch anything!!

BTW Knowlege comes like a spark(Valmiki of Ramayana,Kalidas -famous Indian Sanskrit poet acquired knowledge in a spark),may be people can learn English in prescribed days if learnt in a proper manner.The method of learning is important:



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Mythili

Mythili You always bring something special to every topic.... I think thats the benefit of reading... or rather I would say learning as you said.... You are right, that quote has so many loopholes as a person has to learn to get wise about a particular thing.....

I agree, if students seriously learn in the crash course, they would be able to cope up with the world atleast in spoken english😃

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Abhi

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Thanks for the views😃

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: serialbuff

1. Can a crash course help to teach what so many year's school course could not?

Yes, it can because the ones who have problems with spoken English are the ones who haven't had much opportunity to practise their speaking skills. I don't know what the situation in India is right now, but when I was growing up, people were laughed at for using English outside the classroom. This was especially true in the smaller towns of northern and central India. As a result, the students mastered the written form because it didn't require them to exhibit their knowledge in public and face ridicule or even derision. "bade aaye, angrez ki aulad!" Such students have the grammar and the vocabulary, hence it doesn't take them too long to learn pronunciation and enunciation.

You hit the root of the problem.... I cant do anything but to agree.... It is very much the same situation now in smaller towns.... but now its "Kitna hoshiyaar hain, chhota hoke angrezi bolta hain.... lekin fayda kya agar mujhe pata nahin chala to"😆... So it will take 1-2 more generations to bridge this gap 😉

2. How important is English in the era of globalisation?

It's the language that me and my husband communicate in and it is the source of our bread and butter (in my case daal/roti), so I would say ESSENTIAL! On a serious note, Abhi I have read your comments about having communication problems in Thailand and I assume these have arisen because the number of English-speakers in Thailand is considerably low. You wouldn't face this problem if you were here, in the UAE. Almost everyone here speaks English except our maid, the lawyer who married us, and the guy in the Interior ministry who stamped our marriage certificate 😆 ! Not many people would need their services on an everyday basis!

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Yes, most of the people dont even know ABCD of english.... I have problems in shopping too😆.... but now I know somewhat thai so problems have reduced.... yes I feel english has spread in most of the countries, except some asian and south east asian countries....😃

3. I have seen thais with english knowledge are working at double the salary of those without english knowledge.... Why has english attained such an important status in life of human beings from other countries?

In my case, I deserve every fil I earn. You have no idea how difficult it is to teach EFL (English as a Foreign Language) 😃 Again, the answer is - English is the language of science, technology, finance, commerce... the list goes on.

True.... I myself learned English as a third language through out my life... so I dont know even being in UAE, how much I would be able to speak.... However I know I can carry on the office and day today work.... may be some problems in high english discussions😉😆

4. What is the difference in written and spoken english.... only confidence level... if the 15-16 years courses in english could not improve your confidence, how will the crash course help it??

On a simplistic level - written English is more formal than spoken English. On a facetious level, one doesn't have to worry about pronunciation while writing, and about spellings and punctuation when speaking. The confidence comes from usage, not from the time spent. Refer back to the first point re usage.

I completely agree with the statement... as I have experienced with my own spoken english... I realised it a bit late but i started the then.... so atleast I am comfortable speaking in english now as compared to many of my mates😃

5. Is it possible to teach spoken english to a class of over 100 students as is the case in India?

When teaching Speaking as a skill, I have found it to be a case of "the more, the merrier"! It's easier to switch people around to practise speaking drills, so that they don't get bored and/or complacent which is highly probable as familarity increases. They get additonal practice especially with dialogues and role-plays, and most importantly they can barely hear themselves (let alone be heard by others), so they are not embarrassed when they falter. Problems could arise when they have to do presentations in front of a large audience. In such a situation, it's divide the class into smaller groups, assign them different presentation hours, make a good student a group leader - everyone is happy, and the job gets done.

Thanks a lot.... that has been the best view possible on this question..... infact if i had been in the panel, I would have suggested this to other Mr. Kulkarni😆..... this is really a nice strategy😃

Thus spoke angrezdaan masterni ji! 😊

I am very glad to know your views, they were quite specific and I liked them all thanks😃

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: kabhi_21

I am very glad to know your views, they were quite specific and I liked them all thanks😃

You are welcome! My answers were from a teacher's perspective. It would be nice to hear from the learners, too.

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