Perpetrator, R*pist, or Psycho? - Page 2

Originally posted by: ovaltine

Farah
This is exactly what I meant. Maybe we need to send a petition to zee on
this matter.
You are indeed correct and your idea on expounding on the blood cancer
and its treatment aspect is the kind of thing a western prog would tackle.
Would have loved to see that in KS. When will the serial producers move
with the times and put on their intellectual cap rather than their
overdramatic one track cap.
So, we watch Indian serials for a good laugh and overseas ones for an
intellectual high.
As far as Ranveer's character has shapened up, it was promising but now
they will turn brahmachari to bigamist.

Oval. Farah, Rani
If you all are up for it , I am in-my concern is the diabetes/rape scenario-
AP

Originally posted by: majumdar

Ap,

(Regarding the consequences of her crime, shouldn't
she be punished as a rapist and put to trial as an adult? )

A fair point. But lets face the unpleasant fact, 90% of all male rapes of
females are never reported because of a sense of shame among the
victims. A male who is raped by a female would be even less likely to
approach justice cos while a female victim is likely to at least get some
sympathy, a male victim of hetero rape would be a target of social
ridicule. Plus, it will be unlikely to be accepted by most judges who are
not conditioned to think thus.

Rgds,

Pri

Pri
Agreed. But in this serial if I am shown that a 40 yr. old male who is
ddd&rpd (don't know how the actual act occurred unless the R 🤢 is a
drag queen&then also no child would be a result) then why can't I be
shown the rpst. put on trial/ since in KS the legal laws are always
misconstrued anywys. And since JW's character has been so played with
maybe they can show him taking the reptile to trial.....JW speaking out
about his rpe in the newspapers and tv shows will bring an awareness to
the issue-If they are hell bent on making that Tadpole JW's then they
might as well go all the way...(I really don't know how JW is going to
recover form this trauma)...
(you know sometimes I think he should just go and get married to the girl
he was seeing at the beginning of the serial-Sonali-story over-&Bani can
get married to Ranveer)

Take Care
AP

AP...

A very good post,u did point out very valid points.

Next KS just took the plot of too much too soon,earlier they wanted to follow the plot to dot but later when RK and PD were in saem frame,they changed the plot as their chemistry rocked and rest u know.

Well talking abt pia drugging.it was a way to redeem him,yes to redeem him they ended up killing pia's character as till now i dont understand the reason why would pia hurry and drug him in dubai to hav sex and what made her so confident that she would become pregnant in one go.
Who is the one who took the CD??? there are so many questions which are to be unanswered.
And char Pia has been choosen to be killed to save JW.

AP,

(JW speaking out about his rpe in the newspapers and tv shows)

Wont do much for WCorp's m-cap.

(get married to the girl he was seeing at the beginning of the serial-Sonali-story over-&Bani can get married to Ranveer)

Forget about us being J-B despos. Do you think two human beings who are in love with each other should deliberately go out and marry third persons. Won't be fair to themselves or to the thrid persons.

Rgds,

Pri

Originally posted by: who am i???

AP...

A very good post,u did point out very valid points.

Next KS just took the plot of too much too soon,earlier they wanted to
follow the plot to dot but later when RK and PD were in saem frame,they
changed the plot as their chemistry rocked and rest u know.

Well talking abt pia drugging.it was a way to redeem him,yes to redeem
him they ended up killing pia's character as till now i dont understand the
reason why would pia hurry and drug him in dubai to hav sex and what
made her so confident that she would become pregnant in one go.
Who is the one who took the CD??? there are so many questions which
are to be unanswered.
And char Pia has been choosen to be killed to save JW.

Archie
But how is the character of JW going to ever recover from this male
daterpe issue-I mean this guy will still feel guilty about fathering 2
children with 2 diff. sisters and what not-they have made him a victim in
the most horrible way possible----they killed reptiles character for
this????
AP

Originally posted by: majumdar

AP,

(JW speaking out about his rpe in the newspapers and tv shows)

Wont do much for WCorp's m-cap.

(get married to the girl he was seeing at the beginning of the serial-
Sonali-story over-&Bani can get married to Ranveer)

Forget about us being J-B despos. Do you think two human beings who
are in love with each other should deliberately go out and marry third
persons. Won't be fair to themselves or to the thrid persons.

Rgds,

Pri

Pri

I am a JB camper-I am not saying they should delib. go out and marry
other ppl. but what they have done to JW (victim of mdr) at the hands of
that thing-I can't bear it-wht I am saying is that maybe JW's life would
have been much better if these sisters (or that thing )hadn't enterd hs
life--- 😕

AP

AP,

Definitely a provocative topic.

I agree that Jai's diabetes coupled with alcohol and the unknown drug that Pia laced his drink with would affect his procreative functioning. Most diabetics have circulatory problems 😉 . AP I also don't believe that Pia's pollywog - if one exists - is Jai's. (This is the thought that keeps me watching KS).

Unfortunately, I agree with what others have posted and don't believe that Ekta and her destructives were trying to make any kind of social commentary about date rape. I think they were using this as a means of increasing their TRPs which thankfully backfired.

I do agree that the entertainment industry needs to realize that they are not only entertaining the masses but in essence molding consumer preferences, and the moral and ethical ideals of society.

Unfortunately, some media still don't understand that with the power they have to influence the masses comes great responsibility. We are influenced on a daily basis by media into making decisions about such small things as which soap is the best one to buy to such monumental moral decisions as whether being homosexual is normal.

My cousins and I had a discussion about the influence of media on Indian society. I felt that the entertainment industry dumbed down too many social concepts and dilemmas into banal movies. My cousins however, felt that the majority of Indians weren't ready for serious ideological, moral and social ideas to be brought up in movies. They only wanted light entertainment. Look at what happened to Deepa Mehta when she wanted to film Water.

As for Pia being put on trial for her immoral behaviour. It won't happen. Jai would become a social pariah if it were brought to court. Men and their machismo would want to know what's wrong with him, why didn't he enjoy it, etc. As a society - western and eastern I don't think that we have evolved to the point where this is considered to be a serious topic.

I do feel that producers of these serials should be more responsible in their portrayal of medical illnesses and the medical profession. Ekta has not only shown unscrupulous and fraudulent medical staff, but ridiculous consequences of psychological symptoms; for example if Bani didn't react in 24hrs then the chemicals would build up in her body and she would die. Also the information about Raashi's chemotherapy is so misleading. Raashi had how many sessions of chemotherapy - one - and the doctor already knows that it's not working.

As for Jai Walia, a character brought to life by the fantabulous acting skills of Ram Kapoor, will never be the same if Ekta and her destructives don't redeem him fully. AP the destructives and Ekta were too hell bent on increasing the TRPs and thought they had sheep as an audience who would blindly accept any disgusting storyline thrown at them, thus the ONS. When they realized that the audience's morality was greater than their own greed for TRPs they had to back track and fix the ONS.

The only way to resolve it and redeem Jai Walia was to destroy Pia. However, they still believe that a partial redemption of Jai Walia is enough to satiate our desire for JB reunion. How wrong they are. They are the ones who created this character. This man who is principled and moral and yet they can't see that without total redemption he will remain a lost soul who cannot committ his love to anyone: his wife,his child or himself.

As for Jai marrying anyone else other than Bani, there wouldn't be this extent of passionate discussion about KS, JW or whatever jodi Jai was a part of. The chemistry that has imprinted KS into all of our hearts and souls belongs to Jai and Bani, courtesy of the wonderful acting skills of RK and PD.

I wonder if there is anyone on the forum who in the future will hear JDD and not reminisce about Jai and Bani even long after KS has faded away.

"--- This man who is principled and moral and yet they can't see that
without total redemption he will remain a lost soul who cannot committ
his love to anyone: his wife,his child or himself.---Scifichk"


So gald to hear from U:

Eloquently said. To the point. Exactly my sentiments. The character of
Jai Walia without full, complete, and absolute redemption will forever
remain a lost soul.....They have created this character in order to totally
destroy him...They are trying to sway this story with a JBP track with JW as
the father of both the sisters' children---How will this man manage to
live with himself? And that chit of a girl gets away scott free with a Walia
bonus in her womb?---
In reference to my comment on the rpst being put to trial, well what I
refering to is that we the veiwers were shown that a diabetic, drunk, &
drugged man could perform the act (which is not possible at all) then we
might as well be shown that a 21 yr old female rpst be put to trial for it?
I mean if we are shoved that JW mrpe rubbish down out throats in order
for them to take the character of Pia into the next phase with JB, then we
can be shown anything? I am really concerned about them showing a
diabetic (JW is a diabetic-they have referred to this in previous
episodes)getting drunk (alcohol is poison for them) drugged and (doing
the act) -This is not only incredulous but distortion and complete
misinformation of a delicate subject matter(diabetes) that in India is an
epidemic now...
This is no small disease and no small matter what they have shown.

Take Care
AP

AP,
I think we are in the minority with our concerns for JW's complete and full redemption 😭 . I will miss RK and KS - if Pia has his firstborn - it will be my last day watching KS when this revelation comes out.

As for diabetes, it is certainly not a small matter. Being from the US you are aware of the increase in obesity which is a western phenomenon - everything including humans are being super sized and in the process a certain form of diabetes which only affected adults is now affecting children. The ramifications of this disease are far reaching and will become a burden on healthcare in the future if the public is not educated.

I didn't realize that diabetes was at epidemic proportions in India. Ekta had a great opportunity to educate the masses but misinformation seems to be her agenda in KS.

"I didn't realize that diabetes was at epidemic proportions in India. Ekta
had a great opportunity to educate the masses but misinformation seems
to be her agenda in KS.-Scifichk"

Actually, I was talking to my mother's friend, who is a physician and
telling her about what was shown in KS (She is Indian but doesn't watch tv
serials) She was livid bc she had attended a conference in India just last yr
& one of the points of discussion was that the masses needed to be
informed about this disease as the mentality regarding Diabetes is
nonchalant(that is putting it mildly). And this kind of misinformation on a
tv serial adds to that kind of mentality. Yes, in India today it is
considered an epidemic, one in every five Indians is a diabetic and the
number is growing. Mind you, there are countless other sufferers that
remain unreported. Alcohol in a diabetic sufferer is equivalent to sugar in
the bloodstream.. (It is poison to a diabetic esp. the amount that we were
shown JW drinking-that alone would have led to a coma/heart failure) I
don't know how JW survived that Dubai nite in Pia's hotel room? Yes, Ekta
had a perfect oppurtunity here to use this as a platform to inform the
masses, but instead we were shown JW, being a diabetic, drunk, and
drugged had managed to release his s**d. That is beyond pathetic-
And I am with you on this if it there is JP baby-no KS for me....

Take Care
AP