Perpetrator, R*pist, or Psycho?

Perpertrator, R*pist, or Psycho?

Hello EveryOne

I am just trying to put things into some sort of a perspective, here.

(Yes. Pri, I know my efforts are futile, but kya karoon?)


From the POV of a concerned viewer: A dialogue.

So, it seems like Jai Walia, who has diabetes, was drunk, drugged and
raped (to force somebody to have s*x) on that disgusting Dubai night by
his 21 yr old married SIL. The creators of KS are showing a highly
controversial topic regarding male rape involving a s*xual act that
resulted in a child. (The result being the motive). In bringing up this
subject matter, my opinion is that the producers so far, have not been
sensitive and realistic in their portrayal of the subject at hand.
Their agenda, combined with a complete distortion and misrepresentation
of the facts (I am more concerned about the diabetes part) in order for
the fictional story to move ahead, so they can show the perverted
character of Pia carrying in her womb JW's child through an act of forced
s*x. Actually, I applaud the creators decision in bringing up the male
date rape issue, if only they realize that the main character they are
making the victim is a diabetic.
In a diabetic, exorbitant (the way JW was drinking on that given night in
question) amount of alcohol :

1-alcohol -turns into sugar in the body (poison for a diabetic)
2-alcohol-suppresses the body's ability to handle sugar,(this leads to
organ malfunction/coma)
3-alcohol mixed with a date rape drug (&/or Viagra) unless you are
talking about Homosexual rape-
(Rape of a heterosexual male is not going to happen)

If the creators are ready to go ahead with their agenda then they should
be considerate and sensitive enough in taking a look at the nature of the
issue at hand. The diabetes epidemic in India, today, is no small matter.
Fiction or not, the reality is that the main character of Kasam Se, Jai Walia
is a diabetic. When the creators chose to give JW that disease then they
should shoulder the responsibility of that choice.

Pia, the perpetrator and rapist will go scot free of the crime she has
commited. Pia has commited a crime. A horrible, disgusting crime. From
what I have seen so far, there is no hint of remorse on her face. To me, it
seems like she is on the way to becoming a fullblown amoral psychopath.
So what about her actions? Is what she did just a juvenile game that she
was playing to get JW? I mean is this character an adult or a rebellious
juvenile delinquent? Regarding the consequences of her crime, shouldn't
she be punished as a rapist and put to trial as an adult?

Why further the storyline with her and JB? Kasam Se started of as a story
of three sisters, but the JB magic cast its spell on the viewers. This story
changed from the original when they switched the sisters.
A quote from one of the members who has read the original book "Too
Much Too Soon"

• Quote: Jonaki
• "Also, many people keep referring to the "book". Too Much Too Soon
(on which this is supposed to be based) does not have a character like the
way Pia is portrayed. If the book were being followed, Pia would be
married to Jai (who would be much older than this to begin with) and
Pushkar would be the JW character married to Bani, the elder sister.
Secondly, Pia HATES the JW character in the book. They live in separate
cities let alone in the same house!! And the ONS that has broken us all,
was a 3-second wham bam thank you mam that was forgotten for over
25 years till the son forced the issue, and dies trying to kill his father! For
those who have read the book, the couples are: Curt/Honora (Pushkar &
Bani), Gordon/Crystal (Jai & Pia), Mark/Jocelyne (Sahil & Rano).

• So KS as it stands now is simply the figment of Ekta and the
destructives imagination! The only thing in common is the fact that there
are three sisters. The moment they changed the couplings we should
have stopped trying to see common factors with the book."

I don't have any answers. But I would like to see Pia put to trial for the
crime she has committed. The reason being if they are showing me a
diabetic, who was drunk, drugged and was able to "release his s**d"
(when in reality he could have been under a coma/heart failure) then they
should go all the way out with their storyline and show the audience that
a female rpst is convicted of her crime.

-- And Jai Walia to be Fully, Completely and
Absolutely Redeemed for something he has not even done.------

Would appreciate your views anyone & everyone are welcome to express
their opinions.

Take Care
AP

AP
I think you have to approach Zee on this matter. Balaji produces and Zee buys. Zee telecasts these prog not only for the Indian subcontinent but also overseas. It is a different market overseas because of the western and other cross-cultural influences.
I am not lying here but I have some chinese and malay friends who laugh at what is shown in our serials. So they watch it to oogle at the cast, go gaga over the fashion parade and laugh their heads off. How can any of the issues that are brought up in the drama then be considered seriously.

I think the onus lies with zee. If they want to compete with other channels they need to insist that the prog producers do their background research disseminate facts and not misinform people on the pretence of melodrama. Only then will the progs aired on their channel be taken seriously.

rgds
Oval

Bavie,

As Oval pointed out, Balaji produces and Zee buys. I don't think their (Balaji) intention was to bring up the issue of male rape as nothing to that effect has been elaborated. I think since the ONS didn't go down at all with the audience, it was their effort to redeem the situation by "redeeming" Buddha. I think orignally what they intended it to be was a triangle between the three (B-J-P); however, due to the disinterest, they had no alternative than to salvage the situation in this manner.

P.S. Who's the "perpetrator, rapist, and/or psycho?? 😆 I know you know I know you know I know!

Originally posted by: ovaltine

AP
I think you have to approach Zee on this matter. Balaji produces and Zee
buys. Zee telecasts these prog not only for the Indian subcontinent but
also overseas. It is a different market overseas because of the western
and other cross-cultural influences.
I am not lying here but I have some chinese and malay friends who laugh
at what is shown in our serials. So they watch it to oogle at the cast, go
gaga over the fashion parade and laugh their heads off. How can any of
the issues that are brought up in the drama then be considered seriously.

I think the onus lies with zee. If they want to compete with other channels
they need to insist that the prog producers do their background research
disseminate facts and not misinform people on the pretence of
melodrama. Only then will the progs aired on their channel be taken
seriously.

rgds
Oval

"It is a different market overseas because of the western and other cross-
cultural influences. Oval"

Thnxs Oval for your input.
It is a different market overseas. Totally agree.

I know that these serials are not to be taken seriously but the issues ie.
rape, diabetes-that they keep on writing into their storylines are real
issues-they are not "fashion" issues, its the juxtaposition of these matters and the nonsensical way the creatives are handling these highly important issues
that creates a dumbing down mentality which leads to apathy in the
audience. And the cycle continues.
Take Care
AP

Ap,

(Regarding the consequences of her crime, shouldn't
she be punished as a rapist and put to trial as an adult? )

A fair point. But lets face the unpleasant fact, 90% of all male rapes of females are never reported because of a sense of shame among the victims. A male who is raped by a female would be even less likely to approach justice cos while a female victim is likely to at least get some sympathy, a male victim of hetero rape would be a target of social ridicule. Plus, it will be unlikely to be accepted by most judges who are not conditioned to think thus.

Rgds,

Pri

'Who's the "perpetrator, rapist, and/or psycho?? I know you know I know
you know I know! Kajolfan"

Rani
I thought I made it crystal clear😕 😆

Well, but now with this male rpe thing the scenario is still the same its
just that now they will amke JW the father of the rpst's tadpole, and create
an everlasting physical bond between JP😡 & this so the story can move
ahead with JBP as JW the father of both sisters children? This just went
from bad to worse?🤢

AP

AP,
I too want the serials to present real facts when they want to broach such topics and not use them as Fashion statements. This is called progress and a movement into the positive direction. Hence at this juncture, it is the channel owners who should ensure quality and this will have a ripple effect on the producers. Someone has to take the first step and set the ball rolling. Best to bombard zee with our views bec that is our only line of hope.

Farah
This is exactly what I meant. Maybe we need to send a petition to zee on this matter.
You are indeed correct and your idea on expounding on the blood cancer and its treatment aspect is the kind of thing a western prog would tackle. Would have loved to see that in KS. When will the serial producers move with the times and put on their intellectual cap rather than their overdramatic one track cap.
So, we watch Indian serials for a good laugh and overseas ones for an intellectual high.
As far as Ranveer's character has shapened up, it was promising but now they will turn brahmachari to bigamist.

"AP I don't think Balaji knows the meaning of male rape. Therefore there
is no way, the rapist will be punsihed in the court if law. Fsam"

__Fsam--
I think you are absolutely correct, Balaji doesn't know th emeaning of
what exactly entails a male rape...I'd like to further add that they have
absolutely no knowledge of the "birds and the bees" concept.

What I was trying to ascertain is that if they are showing a diabetic being
drunk,drugged&rped(how the act occurred-have no idea unless the
reptile is really a drag queen) then they might as well a put the female
rpst on trial? Far out-yes-bc if they go with that scenario then they might
as well go all the way..... I mean it just makes the whole serial look so
disgusting and dirty-there is no recovery for JW's character from this-the
only character & lets be real who came out a winner is the R 🤢 -Why
couldn't they have explored this story line with Sahil's character-he
doesn't have any disease...yet..
AP

Totally agree, The producers /directers should at least do some research before the go ahead and portary medical facts. Even when Rano has a reaction to "dates" they say pregnant women can't have dates. What nonsense, if one was to get an instant reaction to food it is usually an allergic reaction and no a food reaction to pregnancy. In case they don't know the digestive system and reproductive system are seperate!
Dr's too are usually portrayed as incompetant, dishonest and stupid and that just gets on my nerves.