Episode 351 Discussion: 15th August 2013

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Episode 351 Discussion: 15th August 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite.  That's very apt, don't you think ? πŸ˜‰. And that proves our objective.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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torture ,sheer torture,no bhai but still a torture...they keep on saying same things over and over again,,precap: need to drink supertonic to get some strength to watch next epi
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Bravo CVs!  You take the cake in terms of stretching something out when it suits you.  Having said that, I did enjoy today's episode:

  • I liked the RK-Madhu scene.   That entire interaction had a sizzle to it - because of RK.  Where he was questioning why she was doing this turnaround, and reminding her of all the loving moments, the reasons why he doubted that she was asking for the divorce.    
Then at the end, he asks  hopefully, almost desperately in a last ditch attempt - whether she is just pulling his leg.   And then when he sees her arm on fire as she tried to save the burning papers, that moment of dejection when he gives up.  Douses the flames, and storms out.  

  •  The cupids Radhaji-Bittuji are back.  Poor delusional things, they must have thought, after the wedding, their job is done.  Big Ha!  So they're trying to make sense of what's going on.  Bittuji voices his suspicions to Radhaji.  Who declares that she has to do something to fix things.  And goes to talk to Madhu (who has finally finished packing - how long does it take anyway for someone to fling things into a bag and walk out?) 

  • Radhaji in action.  Loved how Radhaji listened with an inscrutable face to Madhu, asked her some nice relevant questions on why Madhu didn't leave earlier.   She really wants to get to the bottom of this all.   

Sneaky Dips is back again, in her favorite position near the bedroom door, eavesdropping on Madhu's conversation with Radhaji.    Hmm...does Madhu know?  Is she playing to the gallery, so to speak?  So many questions...  But have to say, Dips is supremely irritating at this stage...


The Precap:  The matriarch has spoken!  No going anywhere, Madhu!


PS:  Am taking this all on face value, who knows what twist is going to show up (is this all a game being played by RM? Or not?  Does RK know? Or not? who do they suspect? Or not? )

Edited by river123 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Did you read the latest spoiler...tomorrow Sikky will confront Madhu, and ask her about the divorce.  I am joking...whoever's reading  this...🀣

So RK gives Madhu a long list of reasons why she is lying about Sultan. And he goes ahead and burns the papers. Madhu grabs it from him, and tries to save the papers, in the process, burning her sleeve. RK is shocked at her desperate attempts to save the papers, pours water on her hand, and walks off in anger, disgust. Nice dialogues, esp when he says he was his happiest with her, and he saw his happiness reflected on her face...

Radhaji is puzzled and wants to get to the root of the matter, esp when Bittuji tells her Madhu asked for divorce.

Scene of the day:

Chun chun ke we get one scene in many episodes that is engaging. Rji listens quietly to Madhu giving all her reasons for wanting to separate from RK. And then asks her some hard hitting questions...they have been through such tough times, she never left him then, so why now? And why did she almost beg him t o marry on t he wedding day? Madhu replies..at that point,she thought she loved RK, but now she loves S...she is not able to lie to Riji, and stops herself. 

Shamaji was very good. Nice to see her back in action after her rothdu avtar.

One thing I did not like was both RK and Rji emphasising that Madhu begged RK to marry her on that fateful day. Did'nt they also want the marriage to take place? Why bring it up almost as if it was a favour they did to her? 

So more day passes by with not much movement, when is this damn track going to end?? 
Edited by Soundarya22 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soundarya22

One thing I did not like was both RK and Rji emphasising that Madhu begged RK to marry her on that fateful day. Did'nt they also want the marriage to take place? Why bring it up almost as if it was a favour they did to her? 

So more day passes by with not much movement, when is this damn track going to end?? 


I interpreted it as  - there was a focus on Madhu because she is the one who's just asked for a divorce.   If RK had asked for one at this stage (post real wedding), they would have shown Madhu and Radhaji asking similar questions of him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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[QUOTE=Soundarya22]Did you read the latest spoiler...tomorrow Sikky will confront Madhu, and ask her about the divorce.  I am joking...whoever's reading  this...🀣

One thing I did not like was both RK and Rji emphasising that Madhu begged RK to marry her on that fateful day. Did'nt they also want the marriage to take place? Why bring it up almost as if it was a favour they did to her? 

So more day passes by with not much movement, when is this damn track going to end?? 
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I don't think they mean they did a favour on her
She gave a million reasons then to trust her love and she was not playing to ditch him in the last moment,
I think they meant if she had to back off she should have done then,,,,when Rk thought madhu planned revenge against him

Was saying that she is in love with sulthan part of the deal? Sorry but I would rather prefer madhu commit suicide than do that,,, it hurts Rk the most after his fathers betrayal, she saying she loved sulthan though fake is absolutely cruel to do...she is literally leaving him to die with all this unnecessary drama,,,,,,,,till this point there is surely no plan of RM to trap sulthan, Rk was purely disgusted by madhu trying to put the fire off the papers
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: river123


I interpreted it as  - there was a focus on Madhu because she is the one who's just asked for a divorce.   If RK had asked for one at this stage (post real wedding), they would have shown Madhu and Radhaji asking similar questions of him.


Meenu...look at the number of us here...thats how many people are interested in the serial. hope the team stalks this thread. πŸ˜‘. Kya serial ka kabaada kar diya, sachchi mein. πŸ˜‘
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Madhu telling everyone that she loves Sultan is just as disgusting as that creep forcing himself on her. I don't know if i feel sympathetic towards Madhu.

When will this track end?!?! 😭😭😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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well today's epi was better than the yesterday's one..not much to say...
so RK is back...this RK is new 2013 wala RK...Ok fine but plz RK use ur Brains..liked VD when he leaves room all shattered..nice acting by him...
Rji n Bji again on to the task of reuniting RM,,,Dips is as irritating as ever

after todays epi all my hopes of this being RM's plan are dead n crushed...now only hope is RK..if he still has his grey cells intact


Originally posted by: Soundarya22



Meenu...look at the number of us here...thats how many people are interested in the serial. hope the team stalks this thread. πŸ˜‘. Kya serial ka kabaada kar diya, sachchi mein. πŸ˜‘



gone r those days when EDT used to be 13-14 -pages by this time😭 m feeling so very depressed by this track..m missing those days when i used to eagerly wait for 8:30 ...now my days feel incomplete..really miss my Rishbala fill for the day...ab to i've seen previous epis also a zillion times...ye track kab khatam hoga m feeling like m running a never ending marathon the finish line is no where in the sight!!!😭😭
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This episode was endurable, though only with updates in hand to know when to hit the mute button.😊
Which - in this case - was the Dipali parts. Can't bear her any more.🀒 Also, she seems to have gone completely witless.πŸ˜• Bittuji standing facing in her direction, and she was talking aloud to herself very revealingly and with a smile as if she were out of sight and out of hearing.πŸ˜•

The divorce papers were successfully burnt. Yay!πŸ‘

The Rishbala scene was excellent thanks to RK's performance and dialogues and Madhu's reactions.
Excellent despite still leaving it out there how the heck RK went from being completely convinced that Sultan was alive when Madhu told him at the jail... to - after getting wounded in the jail fracas and unconscious in hospital - regaining consciousness convinced Sultan was dead. Huh?πŸ˜•
Did he briefly visit the afterlife and see Sultan there? He couldn't have. Sultan isn't there - regrettably.🀒
I wouldn't mind RK and Madhu both getting hanged or jailed for life if either one of them had successfully killed Sultan already.😊

Sincerely hope for the sheer worthless brainlessness of this entire track that it turns out RK and Madhu - or at least RK - had been in the know about this situation and playing a game even now.😊
Because if the plan is to start *now*, it's a sign of witless writing for the track so far.
Because otherwise, they should never have shown RK believing Madhu at the jail about Sultan being alive.
They did show RK believing her.⭐️ So let them stick with that now.
It was the only thing which made sense in all this nonsense.πŸ₯±

The other thing of worth in this episode - Radha.⭐️
Radha today had the one tonic which can rejuvenate her and brings out that ruthless shrewd lady who is usually camouflaged in sentimental wishywashyness.
The tonic? The possibility that her son might lose Madhu, and then become cold in general and distanced from Radha in particular, without Madhu there to remedy both situations.
And Radha's greatest advantage is that she is never considered shrewd, especially not by Madhu.
Both women know that the other's world revolves around RK, and never truly acknowledge each other's extent of ruthlessness when it comes to what they believe is needed for him.

And I'm truly baffled why we are having this 'helpless Madhu, unshrewd RK', 'will-there-be-divorce-or-separation' track, if they *know* it's unpopular enough to drive off most of the remaining mass-audience unless they make reassuring announcements through a variety of means every day that there will be no divorce and the couple won't end up separated.πŸ˜•πŸ˜Š

Instead of showing a track that is detested and contradicting it reassuringly outside of each episode, wouldn't it make more sense - and get better viewership - if they were to *not* show such a dratted boring repugnant track of the courageous female lead suddenly playing helpless prey, and of the shrewd male lead suddenly being completely unshrewd.πŸ₯±

I had never before known that a non-head-injury resulting in unconsciousness could cause selective amnesia and a dulled intellect on regaining consciousness a few hours later.

MEIEJ has already rewritten legal procedure to an extent never before seen in Hindi films or serials, by having RK wearing a prisoner's uniform while still under trial.πŸ˜•
The legal system's budget would probably be affected considerably if all those awaiting trial in prison were to be provided a prisoner's uniform.

Can they avoid any further great leaps of logic, and please *restore* RK's shrewdness - retroactively, as in all this time already? *Not* from this point forward?
Because the latter would imply insensibility of outrageous proportions in the characterization.
There is no way within this storyline - with even the most extreme amount of clunk - that RK would get convinced in a few hours of unconsciousness of exactly the opposite of what he believed before becoming unconscious.πŸ˜•πŸ˜‘

We need to know that the man who believed his wife's claim in jail did *not* vanish into some parallel universe in the span of a few hours of unconsciousness.

Not asking for Madhu's courage to be restored. Expect that'll happen when they finally decide to get done with this 'interesting' track.

And if this is supposed to inspire with sympathy for Madhu by draining out her courage precisely when she needs to deal fiercely with that other guy, then perhaps the powers-that-be should keep one thing in mind.
A virtuous wife - in Hindi serials - facing a threat to her husband's life is expected to fight, *never* give in.
They had Madhu referred to as 'Savitri', presumably in the context of efforts to save her husband's life.
Savitri was dealing with the God of Death, and she did *not* give in. She fought with her wits when strength would not serve.
They are showing Madhu successfully wielding neither wits nor force as weapon, simply being threatened constantly and giving in.
This is not a helpless wife's sacrifice, because this girl has never let herself be helpless before, no matter the situation.
It is a lack of effort, a lack of ruthlessness, a lack of the courage that has been her integral characteristic.

And Madhu's missing fierce courage and RK's missing shrewdness epitomize the missing interest factor and viewability of this track.πŸ₯±
Let the male lead and female lead both behave in character, and they may make even this excruciatingly boring track worth watching.😊
Would like to start watching the episodes again, instead of having to see only some scenes after gauging the updates.
Edited by leelaa9 - 10 years ago