Good for ratan

Good for ratan that kartar wants to marry her she deserves him after all she is also like him when it comes to veera. Kartar was ready to throw her in front of the tiger once but she kills her everyday with her indifference.

agree most of it,

I like Ratan but really hate the way she treats veera, that little girl deserves better.. Veera should go with her grand parents. I know Ranvi loves her but the way she is treated by Ratan is horrible,

I hope the idea of veera going away wl bring out maa ka mamta in Ratan.

Originally posted by: dididumb

Good for ratan that kartar wants to marry her she deserves him after all she is also like him when it comes to veera. Kartar was ready to throw her in front of the tiger once but she kills her everyday with her indifference.

It's good for veera to go with her grandparents at least she will have the love of a grandmother there I mean why should she stay in the house of a selfish loveless and stubborn woman who blames her for the mistakes of her two timing husband and her own stubborn and unforgiving nature.

Now she is crying in front of her husband's picture because her boy's toy will be lost. Shame on her that she is still not ready to think about veera who would finally get a real family and people who would treat her like a princess, she wants her around in a loveless house like an unwanted piece of trash, to keep her own son happy. Shame on ratan, if I were in authority I would give her to her grandparents and tell them never to return her until this stubborn woman accepts her mistake and apologises to the little girl.

But she would of accepted veera if her sampooran came back a bit two faced dont u think?? Imean if she said there no way she would accept veera than fine u get to understand her more and kindda agree with her but not she started to love veera and said she would accept her if sampooran came which showed she has love for veera but when she found out hedied shr cant accept??? Ratan is selfish to keep ranvor she uses veera do unthink thats right? Okay motherhood cant be forced then y keep her y not leave her in orphange y bring her back that day??? The day she brought her back she accepted she would in some way raise this child there she agreed to this motherhood herself no one forced or shall i say her selfishness made her (im notnsaying doing it for ranvir is wrong and every mother put their child first ima making a point). She cant change her mind when it suits her wev seen hug veera befor nownshe cant???? Do get it she being twofaced about it.

Oh n ur point if some can accept another women child well if we look in this case if i decided the child will stay for my son sake then i would of kinna automatcally acceted the girl now it be ruff in the beging but seeing the love the girl has for me and that iv raised her for 5 yrs any human would melt. 5 yrs is no joke u would of had to eventually accepted the girl. And im not mhai like sandhya,askrha etc but human! And in way ratna adopted veera by her choice!

^^you bring up some good points. Yes, 5 years is a long time and you'd expect her to accept Veera. I didn't actually believe that she would accept Veera if Sampoo returned. I think she just used that as a way for justifying her guilt. I bet even if Sampooran returned she still would love Ranvi more. And I tHink she would have been more than happy to leave Veera in an orphanage but she selflessly allowed her to stay fpr her son's sake. That I think is not selfish. Lets not think about what Bansuri would do in her place 😃

I also believe that in the past 5 years Ratan has felt guilty for not accepting Veera. We saw her love before Sampoo's death. I think she has no love in her heart left and that can only be restored by Nihal 😃

Originally posted by: dididumb

Good for ratan that kartar wants to marry her she deserves him after all she is also like him when it comes to veera. Kartar was ready to throw her in front of the tiger once but she kills her everyday with her indifference.

It's good for veera to go with her grandparents at least she will have the love of a grandmother there I mean why should she stay in the house of a selfish loveless and stubborn woman who blames her for the mistakes of her two timing husband and her own stubborn and unforgiving nature.

Now she is crying in front of her husband's picture because her boy's toy will be lost. Shame on her that she is still not ready to think about veera who would finally get a real family and people who would treat her like a princess, she wants her around in a loveless house like an unwanted piece of trash, to keep her own son happy. Shame on ratan, if I were in authority I would give her to her grandparents and tell them never to return her until this stubborn woman accepts her mistake and apologises to the little girl.

I think Ratan is a good women in a bad situation. She loves Veera in her heart but dosent want to accept her coz of the promise she made to only consider her her daughter after Sampooran came home.

I agree after 5 years anyone would care for a child. Unless you were a heartless b***h like Bansuri, who won't let Balwant see his daughter from his first marriage! That child's father is alive and being kept from her by that evil women! So in that estimation Ratan has been a saint!!

But I so badly want to see her accept Veera and marry Nihal and together they start a new family.

I love Ratan ... I think she's a great person ... and she's been wronged terribly

Originally posted by: dididumb

Originally posted by: rusha4003

I love Ratan ... I think she's a great person ... and she's been wronged terribly

But, nothing ... NOTHING can justify being mean to a child who is an innocent victim in this whole sordid affair ...

I really really wish Ratan comes to accept Veera soon ... and no... I dont think one has to be a saint to do that ... there are many normal women who can rise above hurt and do what is needed to be done ... it may be a little forced in the beginning ... but when they see the child showering them with unconditional love ... as Veera does here... they will surely melt ... most women are affectionate towards children by nature ...

It breaks my heart whenever I see Ranvi being hugged by Ratan and Veera looking longingly at them !

Originally posted by: dididumb

Look my dear I am not here to insult anyone I only reacted to what you said and tried to take the side of the innocent, which if you think is holding grudge against ratan then so be it, at least my conscience is clear.

Veera is innocent and a child who does not know any better but ratan is a grown up with trust issues and a god complex, who is acting like an obstinate child. Do you honestly like it when veera looks at her with sad eyes while she is hugging ranvi, or don't you feel like strangling her when she pushes veera away like a bug, every time she gets close to her.

Yes my heart does break for her. But I see Ratan's POV why she can't do it. Honestly, I wish those two would go for professional therapy (LOL!!) but that that's not available in Pritampura I bet (other than Bansuri 😛). CVs messed up by showing this happen five years later because realistically her heart should have melted by this point and it did. We did see them bonding during the Amritsar track and all the way up until Sampooran's death. I think Ratan just needs some time to herself to grieve and I'm sure eventually she'll realize that what she's doing is wrong. She herself knows it's wrong but right now she's just angry at God and her situation and that's why she can't think rationally. Time is always the best medicine (especially on shows like this so they get ratings 😃). I'm not saying that Ratan is right, I'm just saying she's human. She's just grieving and she really needs her space at this time. Once she finds it in her heart to accept that Sampooran was just a loser and that Veera is in no fault then she'll come around. I'm sure that''ll be if she accepts Nihal who restores all the missing love in her heart.

I accept that it is difficult for her to accept her but her rejection of veera is destroying the psyche of a little girl who is at the verge of growing with this constant feeling of guilt that she has done something wrong to deserve being treated as trash, and constantly endeavours to say sorry and please her so called beeji.

Like I said this is a tough situation and either way, at least one person will be hurt no matter what. Sampooran should have thought about it before sleeping with Amrita.

Just place yourself in Vera's place for a second and imagine the weight this little girl was carrying that this time when ratan hugged her son after the pottery episode, for once, veera didn't make a single effort to hug Ratan. She continued to look at the two of them with such hurt and wistfulness that I felt someone has crushed my heart in that instance.

And as I said before and you also said so, that it would have been better for veera to have grown up in an orphanage at least there she would have been treated the same way as the other children. Ratan was ready to bring her for her own selfish reasons but is not ready to treat her with respect for bringing her back her son. She blames her mother for taking her husband but does not accept veera as the daughter of the man she claims to love.

Besides Let's not forget that as the daughter of saooran it is her right to live in her father's house so Ratan is not doing any great favour by allowing her to live in her father's house where her brother and chaijee take care of her needs and not Ratan. Even during chicken pox days she took care of her to save ranvi and not for anything else.

Honestly, tRanvi is the only reason she accepted her in the first place. I don't see that as selfish, in fact I see that as selfless. She would have been selfish to place Veera in an orphanage, knowing it would have killed her son. She was afraid for her son's life and it was her selfless motherly love for Ranvi that let her keep Veera. Yes, I think she should have done "all or nothing" meaning that either she leaves her at an orphanage or accepting her 100%. That would have been the best thing for both Ratan and Veera. But, not everything is black and white and this situation has a lot of grey area. (that's why we are debating it 😊)