Armaan Suri - Saint ot Just Human?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I believe that Mr. Attitude Armaan is unfairly winning more accolades than he deserves....hence, I thought I would piss off many on this forum by
daring to cite reasons why I consider him a nice, but flawed human being who has made many mistakes too! 😆 Just to make life more exciting!!!!!😉

FOllowing are some comments I frequently bang against:

Armaan's Fans: The producers of the show are unduly unfair to Armaan/Apoorva

Kitty's Korner: I beg to differ. For most of last year, he was the
villain of the piece. He lied, cheated, and broke many a heart! But this was not a delibrate attempt to malign Armaan or Apoorva's image (as I infer from many antogonistic comments against the makers of JJKN).

On the contrary, Armaan's image has constantly improved over the
years. Aside from Jassi, his was the only character that underwent a
very interesting tranformational graph - from being a ruthless,
heartless business man, he turned a new leaf as the sincere lover
whose every heart-beat spelt Jassi! It was a very realistic
progression and one that the audience welcomed unanimously. I thus
fail to see how the producers have been unfair towards Armaan.

Regarding Apoorva as an actor, if not for JJKN he would have been
forgotten as the sidekick of SRK in Pardes. This show has made him a
household name. The producers have given Apoorva a role-of-a-lifetime
- an opportunity to sharpen his acting skills and display versatility. Ergo, I believe that his fans must be grateful instead of unfairly harping on them for neglecting his character!

Armaan's Fans: Armaan is worshipped by his fanatics as a flawless man
who could do no wrong.

Kitty's Korner: Far from it!

1) For one, he comes across as extremely impulsive.

I* From Day 1 at GM, he has rarely made any rational decisions (hell,
he did not make any decisions, what with Ms.Astute Walia saving his
ass each time!)......he always thought in the heat-of-the-moment,
melodramatically tried to convince his peers, and later hid, lied, and
regretted!


*Marrying Mallika: Why are his fans blaming Jassi for Aryan's anger
against Armaan? I accept that Jassi was partially responsible for his
emotional condition, but he married Mallika on his own will. Neither
did Jassi give him this 'brilliant' idea of revenge nor did Mallika
expect this turnaround! Worse, Armaan did not deem it fair to have an
open conversation with his wife BEFORE the wedding. Again, he worked
irrationally! Now, he has to have the guts to face the wrath of a
rightfully anguished brother!!! I am sorry Armaan (and his fans), but
I believe that YOU were SOLELY responsible for this condition! You
could have taken revenge on your own instead of using Mallika and then
discarding her so ruthlessly!

* Preparing a fake death certificate of Ms. Walia - this is the last
straw thus far! What the hell was he thinking? Again, he did not consider the consequences of his action. Instead of tracking Jassi down and forcing her to hand over her resignation and power of attorney, he
kills her just because she is absent for 7 days? How absurd is this!
His illogical decision has only broken the hearts of his employees and
put HIM in danger. I won't be surprised if a lawsuit is stamped on
him and he is sent to prison! Lolzzzz…….

2) For another, he never completely trusted Jassi!

Ok, Jassi gets no sympathy points from me! I look down upon her and
will continue to do so! BUT, one redeeming factor was that she has
only loved ONE MAN her entire life! She'd rather dream of Armaan
forever than marry a Purab who loves her wholeheartedly! Moreover,
ever since he confessed his love, she has almost blindly trusted him!
Recall when Rhea slapped a false sexual harrassment lawsuit against
Armaan! Although Jassi questioned him once, she always implicitly
trusted him! However, Armaan never seemed to fully trust Jassi.

Even knowing that Jassi has never posed vulgarly, he believed his
parents when Jassi's scantily-clad pictures were displayed all over
the city. His lack of trust pre-wedding was also not fully
explained. Jassi has made it clear forever that she loved only him.
Fully aware of her genuine, deep love, how then could he not for once
consider that maybe this is a ruse to separate them? In fact,
Jassi has more reason to be suspicious because of Armaan's cassanova
past. Jassi has never ever looked at any other man romantically! How
can he so blatantly distrust her then?

Of course, other less significant flaws that I find in him:

a) His lack of interest in diligently learning the ropes of business - if not for being Puru's son, I doubt this guy would have risen in the business world. Not because he lacks business accumen. I understand that
everyone learns through experience, but Armaan seemed to want the
results without working hard! FOr instance, KOhinoor was a short-cut
decision that was obviously illegal! And, quite simply, he and his
friend Raj spent more time flirting than learning the ropes of being
the highest management of a prestigious fashion house! I hope that changes in the coming episodes!

b) His disrespect towards his family - except for some rare moments of
love towards his dad, I find him so emotionally detached from his mom,
sis and dad!

c) His tendency to befriend extreme emotions - I have never seen
Armaan react to situations in a neutral manner........

In short, I do not hate Armaan....but I do not find him as wronged or
as flawless as most on IF seem to claim!

Oh, please don't shoot me...hehe....these thoughts just burst
forth....I am sure most of you will disagree with me, but I had to
'un'burden my heart! heheh

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aishah thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
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👏 wow-how brilliantly put!-i agree with u bt if u notice the pattern of the past couple of months tnd were making it pretty blatent that armaan didnt 'deserve' jassi-wiv the scandalous photos and rhea thing-tnd were just gearing us up for the fact that a and j were nt going to gt married-they were somehow trying to mke jassi's running away a mahaan act b4 they had even shown the 'wedding of the year'..so in short i feel sorry for apu/armaan as his character had to tke on this rather unrealistic negative shade so that the main protagonist wudnt be shown in a bad light-bt what tnd werent banking on woz the fact that jassi wud luk completely stupid 4 nt talking clearly and to the point!!, dnt gt me wrong im finding it hard to digest this 'new' armaan suri attitude bcoz it is toooo heartless-the as we knw wudnt insult j's family and act like that..anyway i have complete faith that this phase in the drama is shortlived and a and j will be reunited in gm once again-thats wen the real drama will begin!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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All i can say in reply to ur topic is :

KI sabkaa apna-apna nazaria,sabki apni-apni soch !
krangara thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
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😆 Prachi - believe me, I know that! 😃

I spent 1 hr wondering whether this topic should be here...hehehe
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Posted: 19 years ago
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well all i can say is that is armans character ....hehas been impulsive and thats how he character has been made.....the character of arman was taken froma rmanso in blf.....armando was a casanova and a arrogant guy who manipulated betty and then in the process falls hoplesslyin love with her...changes and suffers when betty leaves him and then when she comes back.....tries to win her back ....and then int he 2nd part of blf....they concentrated more on the business side....
now jjkn was goingt he same way as blf till the point jessica emerged and then all of a sudden all characters changed ......
arman and jassi's love bloomed after goingt hrough so many hardhsips in love..they both united....now jassi knew all along how arman was and she still fell in love with him knowing all his flaws ....sow e as the viewers though felt that arman was wrong in manipulating jassi...canyt do anything as the story was of jassi fallig in love with a casanova arman and their ultimate love ......
arman was/is an adorablew jerk....he does make many mistakes and he does have many flaws and thats what makes him more normal and human ....he has soem negative qualities in him which jasi si fully aware of and yet loves him...at the same time his love for jassi is def won all our hearts ...i mean if u look atthe arman from the 1st episode and the arman of today....we can understand how mauch he changed and his gradual yet deep passionate love for jassi.....
arman again acted as a normal human being buring the poster scandal and the cj drama.....
arman did not belive his parents and he did go and ask jassi for an explanation but gain jassi had no idea abt the poster at that time and replied that what she did was right....so there was a misunderstanding...
the cj drama was again a pure misunderstanding where each one had no idea what the other saw or knew ....any guy when seeing his fiancee would ask a quewston on what he saw...i dont find anything wrong in that....theor separation was completely due to lack of communicationa dn misunderstanding...
i agree that he did the stupidest thing of amrrying mallika out of an impulsive character of his....
overall i think arman is a character who has diff shades and he is not perfect and he is neither proclaiming to be perfect like ms.bhagmati walia...and thats why i like his character coz he does not proclaim to be a great guy nor he does pretend to be one....one does expect arman suri to react the way he does but one thing that will always stand abt him is his love for jassi which has been forever growing deeper ...and this was shown beautifully in jassi ka safar and also many will agree with me who have watched jassi from episode one ....
i dont know what i have writen hope it makes sense
btw krangara ur post is very well written
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Posted: 19 years ago
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krangara

OMG.. u got it so wrong.. 😊

We Armaan fans love him because he is human.. we love him with all his flaws.. we love him because he doesn't pretend to be GOD or Saint like "not to mention thing" 🤢

Oh dear friend, u really got everything wrong about Armaan fans.. I don't want to comment what u think about Armaan.. (cause those r ur views about the character)

And who told u that (Armaan's Fans: Armaan is worshipped by his fanatics as a flawless man
who could do no wrong.)

I have been on I F for quite some time now.. and I never came across with any A fan who thinks that armaan is flawless 😕

Nobody is cursing T and D only for butchring his role.. we just don't like the thing that they always play with Armaan's character just to show Jassi's mahaanta.. and that's make us annoyed.. If u don't like anybody cursing t and d and if that's what is ur main concern then u must have noticed that Our anger and frustration against T and D is for doing wrong advertisement of A-J wedding and not actually about destroying the story.. cause they have done that ever since they diverted from BLF. 🤢

Personally .. I really don't bother what they do with their storyline.. it's their product and they can do whatever they want. I m angry on them because they used our feelings to get TRPs and to kill KBC.

If they would have advertised that something is going to be wrong with A-J and they may not get married or A will get married to Malika then I wouln't be so angry on them..and wouldn't have lost interest in JJKN but instead they played dirty game with us.. They knew A-J fans are waiting for their wedding and they used our feelings like tool of marketing..

And atleast I respect Apoorva's non-interference in the script. He is not ***** like other actor who left no chance to badmouth T and D on every possible forum. Even he got his stardom due to JJKN... but he really showed how ungrateful he is.. !!!

I believe that JJKN writers love Armaan Suri as much as we do... and It is visible from the colorful and varied graph they portrayed for him.

And I know many A fans who are utterly grateful to JJKN makers for giving us such a Gem called Apoorva as Armaan Suri. 😃

I think I have tried to explain few things which i found wrong in ur post... (I really don't have anything agaist ur views.)

Again.. I love Armaan Suri because he is human and not super-white devataa 😳

regards..

- Preet 😊


** NO abusive words please**
Edited by Minnie - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Apoorva_Preet and Tina, well said! Krangara, I think you have quite a misconception. If there is someone out there who thinks Armaan is perfect, please say so! I certainly don't think he is perfect and I never have.

I finally did make one decision though, I am not going to support Jassi anymore as apparently she has the support of those people who have not analyzed her actions very well. Armaan needs someone on his side, so I choose to stay on his side.

When the show first started, it was supposed to follow BLF and thus we expected Armaan to be the way he is. All of a sudden Armaan's character is maligned so that Jassi's disappearance act is justified...no way...it doesn't work for me. At least when Armaan has made a mistake he has admitted to it and asked for forgiveness... this quality makes him human...Jassi on the other hand never seeks forgiveness for all the times that she has hurt someone.

The problem that most of us have right now is what Tina and Apoorva are saying. Tony and Deeya were supposed to have Jassi and Armaan married. However, they took us for a ride and there was no wedding between Armaan and Jassi. False advertising. I whole heartedly am upset with Tony and Deeya for not giving the wedding that they promised.

With regards to Jassi killing off Armaan...she killed him as well. They are even. I could ask the question, if Jassi is so self righteous, why didn't she return the company to him? Armaan doesn't even want to see her face let alone look for her. Per what he saw, CJ's insinuation that they slept together, the note that she left with him and Jassi's sudden disappearance, it lead him to the conclusion that she took off with him. He doesn't think she will come back. Armaan shouldn't have married Mallika, but she got what she deserved. Anyone standing in Mallika's shoes would have said no Armaan, I will not marry you under these circumstances. She did, good for her. She can still leave him, if she is so unhappy.

You know I really need to keep a lengthy script on hand cuz I am tired of repeating myself. However, I would like to reiterate that I am not one of those who believe that Armaan is a saint, however, I do like his human qualities.

Thanks.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Very Good topic kaangra.

Originally posted by: jprasad

Apoorva_Preet and Tina, well said! Krangara, I think you have quite a misconception. If there is someone out there who thinks Armaan is perfect, please say so! I certainly don't think he is perfect and I never have.

I finally did make one decision though, I am not going to support Jassi anymore as apparently she has the support of those people who have not analyzed her actions very well. Armaan needs someone on his side, so I choose to stay on his side.

When the show first started, it was supposed to follow BLF and thus we expected Armaan to be the way he is. All of a sudden Armaan's character is maligned so that Jassi's disappearance act is justified...no way...it doesn't work for me. At least when Armaan has made a mistake he has admitted to it and asked for forgiveness... this quality makes him human...Jassi on the other hand never seeks forgiveness for all the times that she has hurt someone.

The problem that most of us have right now is what Tina and Apoorva are saying. Tony and Deeya were supposed to have Jassi and Armaan married. However, they took us for a ride and there was no wedding between Armaan and Jassi. False advertising. I whole heartedly am upset with Tony and Deeya for not giving the wedding that they promised.

With regards to Jassi killing off Armaan...she killed him as well. They are even. I could ask the question, if Jassi is so self righteous, why didn't she return the company to him? Armaan doesn't even want to see her face let alone look for her. Per what he saw, CJ's insinuation that they slept together, the note that she left with him and Jassi's sudden disappearance, it lead him to the conclusion that she took off with him. He doesn't think she will come back. Armaan shouldn't have married Mallika, but she got what she deserved. Anyone standing in Mallika's shoes would have said no Armaan, I will not marry you under these circumstances. She did, good for her. She can still leave him, if she is so unhappy.

You know I really need to keep a lengthy script on hand cuz I am tired of repeating myself. However, I would like to reiterate that I am not one of those who believe that Armaan is a saint, however, I do like his human qualities.

Thanks.

👏👏👏 Beautifully put JP.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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of couse armaan is not a saint😛!thats what his most special about his character😃!impulsive follish dumb extreme as he may seem he has the ability to realize his mistake and change...to let go of his ego..remeber when jassi exposed him at the board meeting ...he could have easily hate jassi for that..but he knew he was the one who was wrong and becuse he loved went after her....

armaan is no saint but i still love him with all his good and bad qualities..if u want a saint purab's always there!😉

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Posted: 19 years ago
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uh...a4j...Purab died...they killeded him. 😛 tiffenduffer gave him brain
cancer and did away with him.

Anyway, I watched today's episode minus Jassi...I am sorry I can't digest
Jassi's bhashans when she is no saint herself. Knowing she was in the
wrong when she left the mandap and all the mistakes that she has made
but never apologized for or repented on. Honestly, I think the only time
that I will ever be able to forgive Jassi is when she realizes that she did
her parents, Armaan and Armaan's parents wrong. Because she wasn't
able to confront the situation at hand like a normal human being so much
tension between Armaan and Jassi's family was created.

Furthermore, watching Mallika today...Armaan is giving her a choice...he
is telling her to leave if she wants...so if she wants to stay and be treated
like crap...hey good for her...again, she deserves it. Why doesn't Jassi do
her duty and come back and tell Mallika, "Leave this oppressive man!"
Anyhoo, I am enjoying this portion. Tiffenduffer thanks for making me
come to my senses. I am enjoying hatred and I have learned that hatred
and evilness always win. What I have learned from watching JJKN, hate
and satanism win and God is a laughing stock.

LOL, realization for jprasad...we are talking about Armaan being a saint
when he isn't...hmmmm...Actually, the person that fits this description
better is Jassi urf Jassica urf Neha urf hypocrite number 1 urf deceased
Jassi. 🤢

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