The Era of Ranbir-India's New Acting Superstar - Page 12

Originally posted by: lovelyaddiction

Ok so you say BO collections decide the fate of an actress/Actor?

Ok we have Asin who has 90% success in her kitty and she is a part of the 100 crore bandwagon, but is she getting the roles? She is no were in the picture, an actors fate cannot be forecasted just on the basis of some present performances. There is something like the future tense and the actors past goodwill and yeah the experience, Maybe 10 years down the lane we will know where he stands.

Originally posted by: Shailesh_Rathi

Great posts above. I agree that the Khans had a tough road ahead of them and put in a lot of hard work along with great performances over a period of time, before they were known as superstars. Ranbir is using his star son status to sing his own praises prematurely. He still has a long way to go to get there...after a long drought, he has had a few hit movies recently. But does that mean that he's a new acting superstar? Not really.

Some points I will like to add: Ranbir does not have a single 'solo' hit to his credit. For the most part, he has been quite consistent in the way he plays his roles. I recently watched Barfi, Rocket Singh, YJHD, and felt that the other actors including the heroines did a fantastic job. Priyanka was brilliant, so was Deepika (which was a surprise to me). Even the actors in character roles in Rocket Singh were so good, but the screenplay fell flat whenever Ranbir had the centre stage because he couldn't deliver as effectively. Many a times, the other actors stole the show. He needs to sink deeper into the character. So far, even as I flip movies, I can only see Ranbir and not the character.

At the same time, I must add that his father is doing well as an actor. Rishi Kapoor has been consistently challenging himself and it's a treat to watch him on screen.

Originally posted by: starstruckk

@ bold: and how is that?

I hardly see people referring to Ranbir has "Rishi Kapoor's son." A star kid can only use their family's name to a certain extent..you can't be riding on a "star son status" for so long...and there are many examples of star kids failing despite having a star kid status. Lets also not forget how Ranbir's first film did not do so well..technically, that was to his disadvantage. Ranbir has only worked his way up with every film. He was never termed the "new superstar" from his very first few films..this is something he has pretty much earned through his work over the years. He has done merely 10 films in a span of what? 6 yrs? And most of his film choices have been decent thus far and not the typical stuff you see some of his contemporaries choosing.

And what do you mean he has no solo hit? 😆 The actresses you're speaking to were the female leads in his films. If that's the case, then no actor could possibly have a solo hit as they're all paired with an actress somewhere in a film.

If Ranbir doesn't deserve all the appreciation that he is currently, then who else does? There isn't even anyone close to Ranbir in the younger lot..and all of them have gotten more than enough chances to prove themselves. So I don't see how it's hard to imagine Ranbir as the benchmark of this generation in actors.

Originally posted by: Shailesh_Rathi

AB Jr also had a string of hits like Bunty and Babli, Guru, Bluffmaster, and many more but he couldn't sustain them long enough because he did not consistently work on his performances. Ranbir could go the same way if he prematurely starts taking credit for the movie successes without working harder on his roles.

Originally posted by: Shailesh_Rathi

To be honest, you sound exactly like his PR. Nothing against that, though. Ranbir gave one of his first money-grossing movie and has instantly promoted himself to a superstar...which to me, sounds ridiculous. In these days, any one including a Sajid Khan can make a 100 crore movie and promote himself as a superhit director...but obviously he found it hard to sustain the fame.

If I recollect Rajesh Khanna was considered to be the original superstar because of his back to back 15 superhit movies. Till date, I haven't seen Ranbir perform at a level which has made me sit up and notice his talent. At present Rk's contemporaries have also shown some promising movies in their maiden ventures, which brings them all around the same level.

For someone to deserve a superstar tag, his/her performance needs to stand apart from the crowd. In terms of solo hit, there is not one movie where Ranbir's role alone nailed the movie. The movie has only worked in totality because of other actors. Vidya had Kahaani, SRK had Baazigar...to name a few as examples.

But if you were to look at Ranbir's movies closely, it was always other characters who stole his thunder (even though he was supposed to be the main lead). Wake up Sid was RK playing himself..and yet Konkona stole his thunder. Even Rocket Singh rested on the strength of 2 grey characters (naveen kaushik, sunil puri whose performances were credited more in the movie), RK just couldn't fit into his role. Of course, no one gave those characters as much of a chance or strong recognition because they do not have connections in hindi film industry...like RK does. Barfi (Priyanka Chopra transformed herself into the character whereas Barfi came across as RK in the movie), YJPD was a two hero movie with ARK and RK (though RK was promoted much more than ARK) and to me this one was a fluke hit because of the public curiosity of how well two exes worked with each other.

Star kids can always bank on their connections to continue to stay on regardless of box office collections...otherwise AB Jr wouldn't have continued to get the current movie offers. Compared to him, RK is a notch better. And yet, he is still performing in a very safe comfort zone of contemporary roles to keep him in the movies but nothing to classify him as a superstar...at least not yet.

Originally posted by: Shailesh_Rathi

To be honest, you sound exactly like his PR. Nothing against that, though. Ranbir gave one of his first money-grossing movie and has instantly promoted himself to a superstar...which to me, sounds ridiculous. In these days, any one including a Sajid Khan can make a 100 crore movie and promote himself as a superhit director...but obviously he found it hard to sustain the fame.

If I recollect Rajesh Khanna was considered to be the original superstar because of his back to back 15 superhit movies. Till date, I haven't seen Ranbir perform at a level which has made me sit up and notice his talent. At present Rk's contemporaries have also shown some promising movies in their maiden ventures, which brings them all around the same level.

For someone to deserve a superstar tag, his/her performance needs to stand apart from the crowd. In terms of solo hit, there is not one movie where Ranbir's role alone nailed the movie. The movie has only worked in totality because of other actors. Vidya had Kahaani, SRK had Baazigar...to name a few as examples.

But if you were to look at Ranbir's movies closely, it was always other characters who stole his thunder (even though he was supposed to be the main lead). Wake up Sid was RK playing himself..and yet Konkona stole his thunder. Even Rocket Singh rested on the strength of 2 grey characters (naveen kaushik, sunil puri whose performances were credited more in the movie), RK just couldn't fit into his role. Of course, no one gave those characters as much of a chance or strong recognition because they do not have connections in hindi film industry...like RK does. Barfi (Priyanka Chopra transformed herself into the character whereas Barfi came across as RK in the movie), YJPD was a two hero movie with ARK and RK (though RK was promoted much more than ARK) and to me this one was a fluke hit because of the public curiosity of how well two exes worked with each other.

Star kids can always bank on their connections to continue to stay on regardless of box office collections...otherwise AB Jr wouldn't have continued to get the current movie offers. Compared to him, RK is a notch better. And yet, he is still performing in a very safe comfort zone of contemporary roles to keep him in the movies but nothing to classify him as a superstar...at least not yet.