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The Race Card

Indian extended families, family friends, acquaintances (even strangers ) have an opinion about their beloved ladli/ladla growing up to marry another race. That would bring such shame to the ancestors' name. Terrible, how can our kids survive with their kind who love breaking up?

My question is: what do you think brings about this caution of non-Indians? (In extreme cases, it may extend to North vs South and state specific).


*I do not endorse the views in italics. They sounded like something one would hear at a interracial pre-wedding gathering.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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People have a limited understanding of everything which I am afraid, societal norms stunts for them. If they understood any better, they'd have known that marrying into another race will help their own frigging raise to survive, like for the men. And when I come to think of it, if they believe in marrying our own 'kind', wouldn't it be like um, incest? 🤓
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Originally posted by: epiphany.

People have a limited understanding of everything which I am afraid, societal norms stunts for them. If they understood any better, they'd have known that marrying into another race will help their own frigging raise to survive, like for the men. And when I come to think of it, if they believe in marrying our own 'kind', wouldn't it be like um, incest? 🤓

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that was entertaining
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^^ I make sense, entertaining as my intentions are. 🤓
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Originally posted by: epiphany.

People have a limited understanding of everything which I am afraid, societal norms stunts for them. If they understood any better, they'd have known that marrying into another race will help their own frigging raise to survive, like for the men. And when I come to think of it, if they believe in marrying our own 'kind', wouldn't it be like um, incest? 🤓

Can you explain how marrying into another race will help us survive? Please base your argument on facts.
@ topic. If someone wants to marry among their own then it is their freedom of choice. the problem is that we selectively apply standards where it suits us. If south indian doesnt want to marry a north indian or vice versa then its not my business. its their choice.
i personally dont see any wrong in it. people are comfortable among their own.
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To be honest, I don't understand why people are against marrying outside the race. I don't know their reasons either. I can only speculate. As humans we tend to be hesitant or unsure of things that are unfamiliar to us. That is why, while we may befriend other races desis tend to be hesitant to take it the next step into marriage. There is also a need to preserve culture, language and traditions. People fear marrying outside will cause a loss of our traditions and avoid it. And when it comes to blacks or Latinos, I've noticed that Indians are just plain racist sometimes.

We don't have this issue in my family. I have uncles, cousins, aunts who have married Asians, white people, and black people. My sister herself married a white boy this weekend.

Regarding marrying another race for survival. It is a long term concept. Cross breeding and cross pollination is an evolutionary trait in nature. Biologically each race has its own strengths and weaknesses. Breeding within the race amplifies these strengths and weaknesses. Cross racial breeding improves the human gene pool by allowing natural selection to eliminate the weaknesses over time and improve the strengths. Mixed race children have been found to eliminate genetic defects from their parent races. For long term survival of the human species, cross racial breeding is desirable.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: King-Anu

Can you explain how marrying into another race will help us survive? Please base your argument on facts.
@ topic. If someone wants to marry among their own then it is their freedom of choice. the problem is that we selectively apply standards where it suits us. If south indian doesnt want to marry a north indian or vice versa then its not my business. its their choice.
i personally dont see any wrong in it. people are comfortable among their own.


I'm not arguing until someone tries to contradict me, eh? 😃 Anyway, it's simple, man. Say, for example a Parsi man (dwindling population, right?) marries out of his race, it'll obviously strengthen his race seeing as the child born to him from the woman would be a Parsi in our patriarchal country.

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Originally posted by: epiphany.


I'm not arguing until someone tries to contradict me, eh? 😃 Anyway, it's simple, man. Say, for example a Parsi man (dwindling population, right?) marries out of his race, it'll obviously strengthen his race seeing as the child born to him from the woman would be a Parsi in our patriarchal country.

Contradicting a sane and intelligent person like you is not easy. Therefore I exercise caution in such scenarios and present my input as an inquiry rather than going all out. lol
If you look into this question through genetics then you will see that there are limited to no benefits of marriage after you move from close family marriages to marriages outside of that. So marrying among same race is as good as marrying among different race. When you marry in close family then chances of getting some genetically transmitted diseases (which are low anyway) do increase i.e. if a disease runs in a family. If you marry outside then their genetic profile doesnt have to be same and therefore it doesnt increase any risk.
Now come to what you mentioned. I dont see that as any benefit. If anything one parsi now has given birth to a partial parsi lol. What he should do if he wants to save his race then marry a parsi and have 10-15 parsis. lol. However if there are not parsis around then yes partial parsi is better than no parsi.
Where one can see benefit of inter-racial marriage is that their offspring is better in the sense that he or she is exposed to different environments and therefore have more exposure, more inputs and are perhaps more confident. On the other hand there can be identitiy crisis as well.
In conclusion and in reality there is no such thing as race anyway. Some if it is few traits being different but most of it is and what those parents (who dont want to marry outside race) are looking for is actually culture, language, food, interests, comfort and you can expand it to religion, country etc. If they dont find it in different race then I respect that. What I would avoid is only one thing - marrying among very close relatives. This could increase risk of some dieases.
I therefore think its totally fine if someone wants to marry in their own race. They are not going to be any less than multiracial kid.
Edited by King-Anu - 12 years ago
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I agree with RTH. People tend to flock within groups and marry within the same kind of people, hence the emphasis on same race. As a member of cosmopoliton European city, I still see people try to find partners and mates first in their similar profiling, because of basic familiarity. Offcourse inter racial marriage or partnerships happen a lot. But for Indians, somehow preserving cultural tradition become very important. hence the emphasis on similar race7culture.
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Originally posted by: King-Anu

Contradicting a sane and intelligent person like you is not easy. Therefore I exercise caution in such scenarios and present my input as an inquiry rather than going all out. lol
If you look into this question through genetics then you will see that there are limited to no benefits of marriage after you move from close family marriages to marriages outside of that. So marrying among same race is as good as marrying among different race. When you marry in close family then chances of getting some genetically transmitted diseases (which are low anyway) do increase i.e. if a disease runs in a family. If you marry outside then their genetic profile doesnt have to be same and therefore it doesnt increase any risk.
Now come to what you mentioned. I dont see that as any benefit. If anything one parsi now has given birth to a partial parsi lol. What he should do if he wants to save his race then marry a parsi and have 10-15 parsis. lol. However if there are not parsis around then yes partial parsi is better than no parsi.
Where one can see benefit of inter-racial marriage is that their offspring is better in the sense that he or she is exposed to different environments and therefore have more exposure, more inputs and are perhaps more confident. On the other hand there can be identitiy crisis as well.
In conclusion and in reality there is no such thing as race anyway. Some if it is few traits being different but most of it is and what those parents (who dont want to marry outside race) are looking for is actually culture, language, food, interests, comfort and you can expand it to religion, country etc. If they dont find it in different race then I respect that. What I would avoid is only one thing - marrying among very close relatives. This could increase risk of some dieases.
I therefore think its totally fine if someone wants to marry in their own race. They are not going to be any less than multiracial kid.


The ridiculous thing here is, I dun factually debate. 🤓 And sure, there being no race actually is something I'd read in Biology last year. Ah, well. The parsi example I gave, I read on the internet about how their population is thinning real badly. So, partial parsi is the way to go, man. 😛

Although when people say dun marry outta your race they are being social and also gits. I dun think they go into genetics while passing comments like 'Marrying a Madrasi, are we?', 'Isn't that a negro?'. So, if we are to debate on why they do it, and how feel about their stand I dun think genetics is going to help us much there.


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