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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Cassie..

Indeed, the repetitive use of the term has objectified the person in such a way that it seems she has no worth at all otherwise... and in the context of the contract marriage which took place and the revenge drama on his mind at that time, it certainly was no term of affection.


*Unrelated, but adding... this is why, IMO there'll be a tragic ending for Rishbala. Please surprise me CVs! She breaks through all the shackles, expectations and double standards of society to carve a name for herself... oh my dreams of the heroine track 😆*


n they say dreams do come true😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: cardio21


Even though I agree that he made mockery of marriage, he wanted to take revenge on her.. And what was the best way? Do we realize what happens to girls like that in real life who challenge super successful people. --- Acid attacks, gang rape, kidnap and trafficking, and worse.

He went the most decent way to get his revenge. I am not supporting him,, but I have mentioned several times before that he didnt go looking for Madhu.. Was it like he saw her, wanted her at any cost. NO!
There is something called self preservation which is a natural instinct in a woman. Madhu never seems to display it. If Mukund was madhu's family member, RK did that accident and then was not taking responsibility, or mukund was mortally wounded.. Then Madhu's stand would have been right.. I am sure that RK wouldn't have gone against her, the way he did. When was the last time u saw a witness turning into a plaintiff..

And then we all know his super sized ego.. He decided to go all along.


And the way he says biwi, was earlier to rile her, and now as a mark of possessiveness ..

The reason, I never make a big deal out of it is because its not that he is possessive for her and doesn't give her the rights on him.. I would dislike it, if he was using this as a male prerogative and was having flings with other women. He has voiced it a million times that only his wife has rights on him.

There are numerous men who go out and have affairs,, from what I see its very humiliating for a woman, but we tend to forgive that humiliation.
.why? because many people do it? Just because it has been done before doesnt mean that it is more acceptable or redeemable.
He married

His arrogance is not because he is a man, but because he is a superstar.. Not that it is acceptable, but the truth is that he is extremely successful, one in a billion.. And had nobody around to keep him grounded.

I hope I didnt offend u, I was just trying to present my point,,.
As a Rishbala fan, I am not happy with the negativity of the show, and hope I don't spell it for you..

your explanation is good at your point...Insult and break a woman in hero's style is O.K and we have to appreciate it...that is what you saying na...I can not agree with it...
Edited by ulakmini - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#13
The word 'Biwi' to him is a synonym for 'Copyrighted Material.'
Edited by ..Khushi.. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: ulakmini

your explanation is good at your point...Insult and break a woman in hero's style is O.K and we have to appreciate it...that is what you saying na...I can not agree with it...


Not at all. This is not what I implied. According to me, it was never between a man and a woman.I understand the ego battle and the power play.. RK wouldn't have let it gone, if Madhu was a man.. He wouldn't have married a man or killed him but would have destroyed his life in his own way.

The problem is that we are giving it a name of a mam woman battle, when it's not.
Did u watch the movie 'Laadla'? That was something similar but in that case the powerful icon was a woman. So no feminist stances were raised..

What if Madhu was a superstar and RK had slapped her, she would have let it go..NO!

By grace of God n my family's blessing, I am extremely successful for my age. I have my mom to keep me grounded but still inadvertently I tend to rub it on people. And I am not even close to what RK has been depicted as.. So we need to understand the nuances and shades of ego.

The above bold is not my opinion.
Edited by cardio21 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21


Even though I agree that he made mockery of marriage, he wanted to take revenge on her.. And what was the best way? Do we realize what happens to girls like that in real life who challenge super successful people. --- Acid attacks, gang rape, kidnap and trafficking, and worse.

He went the most decent way to get his revenge. I am not supporting him,, but I have mentioned several times before that he didnt go looking for Madhu.. Was it like he saw her, wanted her at any cost. NO!


No every super-successful person responds with acid attacks, gang rape, kidnap, trafficking, and worse when someone challenges them. That's typically the responses of sociopaths. And I assume that RK - as megalomaniacal as he is - is not a sociopath.

Originally posted by: cardio21

And the way he says biwi, was earlier to rile her, and now as a mark of possessiveness .. The reason, I never make a big deal out of it is because its not that he is possessive for her and doesn't give her the rights on him.. I would dislike it, if he was using this as a male prerogative and was having flings with other women. He has voiced it a million times that only his wife has rights on him. There are numerous men who go out and have affairs,, from what I see its very humiliating for a woman, but we tend to forgive that humiliation..why? because many people do it? Just because it has been done before doesnt mean that it is more acceptable or redeemable.


What rights does she have on him? So far all the rights have been assumed by him on her. So he doesn't have affairs, I will grant that - if he considers himself married, the fact that he doesn't have affairs should be the norm rather than something that makes him an exceptional exception (no matter what his super-star status). And the plot has never delved into why he is not interested in other women (minus whatever games he plays with Dipali to amuse himself) - I don't know that I would say that that necessarily means that he is committed to Madhu. He may just be a man who prefers not to be a playboy in that sense (especially given that he has evidently been cheated before and has significant trust issues). In that sense, I would say that it's sensible (professionally) for him to not add playboy-status to an already suffering reputation.

Originally posted by: cardio21

His arrogance is not because he is a man, but because he is a superstar.. Not that it is acceptable, but the truth is that he is extremely successful, one in a billion.. And had nobody around to keep him grounded. I hope I didnt offend u, I was just trying to present my point,,.As a Rishbala fan, I am not happy with the negativity of the show, and hope I don't spell it for you.


Whatever the reason for his arrogance, if at some point that makes him unapproachable to all, then he has no one to blame but himself. Not every superstar needs to develop arrogance to the degree that he has. If the responsibility for all his weaknesses and vices is explained away as emerging from his past or his superstar status, the man is solely a product of his circumstances and nothing else... as in, there is nothing internally redeeming that would allow him to turn a corner for the good. Neither Madhu nor his mother nor anyone else in the world can do that for him if he cannot meet them at least halfway.

You did not give any offense at all. I appreciate you trying to present your views in a reasonable and civil manner. We all have our allegiances for our own reasons...

-Devi
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Posted: 12 years ago
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As many people are inspired by calling their wife's as BIWI( bcoz rk calls his half wedded wife as BIWI) - i wish...ppl dont follow those RK antics and humiliations ...

atleast ppl refrain form doing those things...and abt the word BIWI- hahaha...all along..if u want to support - the MOST silly reason is enough to glorify it. neither ppl know the value of the words nor relations. 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: -publicenemy-


No every super-successful person responds with acid attacks, gang rape, kidnap, trafficking, and worse when someone challenges them. That's typically the responses of sociopaths. And I assume that RK - as megalomaniacal as he is - is not a sociopath.

I disagree!! The world our there is very bad.. A disgrace to humanity.. People do unbelievable things.. When we work with all these NGOs for women,, it's very painful.. We are very fortunate that our parents raised us in a rosy world. All these rape cases we hear is just the tip of the iceberg. There are horrid tales. And all this is done by sociopaths and also by people who have clouts.. That's the reason that they don't make headlines.. I have heard true stories. And these stories make me think that how kind God has been to us.. Ad how mean to these unfortunate females. I just hope that these animals pay for their sins..


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What rights does she have on him? So far all the rights have been assumed by him on her. So he doesn't have affairs, I will grant that - if he considers himself married, the fact that he doesn't have affairs should be the norm rather than something that makes him an exceptional exception (no matter what his super-star status). And the plot has never delved into why he is not interested in other women (minus whatever games he plays with Dipali to amuse himself) - I don't know that I would say that that necessarily means that he is committed to Madhu. He may just be a man who prefers not to be a playboy in that sense (especially given that he has evidently been cheated before and has significant trust issues). In that sense, I would say that it's sensible (professionally) for him to not add playboy-status to an already suffering reputation.

[tever the reason for his arrogance, if at some point that makes him unapproachable to all, then he has no one to blame but himself. Not every superstar needs to develop arrogance to the degree that he has. If the responsibility for all his weaknesses and vices is explained away as emerging from his past or his superstar status, the man is solely a product of his circumstances and nothing else... as in, there is nothing internally redeeming that would allow him to turn a corner for the good. Neither Madhu nor his mother nor anyone else in the world can do that for him if he cannot meet them at least halfway.

You did not give any offense at all. I appreciate that you trying to present your views in a reasonable and civil manner. We all have our allegiances for our own reasons...

-Devi



For rest, I won't impose my opinion,. But the one I mentioned is a true picture.. That's why I always talk about self-preservation to women from lower socioeconomic status because they are the easy targets.. It's sad but true..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21



For rest, I won't impose my opinion,. But the one I mentioned is a true picture.. That's why I always talk about self-preservation to women from lower socioeconomic status because they are the easy targets.. It's sad but true..


I never refuted the reality of the world that we live in. Given what I do for a living, the stories that I have heard are plentiful in this matter. The women who are most at risk are not merely from lower socioeconomic status, but also those who have difficulty advocating for themselves. In that regard, I think Madhu does pretty well for herself. If she were to remain quiet about adversities, then that is no guarantee that bad things will not happen to her, but just that no one else will hear about it.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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lol I agree with you. I also find it weird that he always addresses her as Biwi... same as when his brother calls dipali "wife". It just sounds unnatural and fake 🤔

most of all, I love your comment abt those annoying and offensive emoticons. the roll-on-the-floor-laughing one irritates me the most.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Maybe R.K. actually knows deep down that their marriage is and was not ever real and to convince himself he throws the word "Biwi" around.

If he understood the real meaning of the word he would not have treated her the way he did.

To him it always meant that you are my property that I bought you and I can say and do as I please.

If it took him years to call his "Janam dene wali Aurat" " Mother " and he had no respect for her why then why would he even understand to give any other women in his life any more respect by word or deed.

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