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Who said you have to change your opinion. I didn't tell you to change your opinion to adapt to mine, I was just pointing out that some of the songs do not have gay undertones. It's only if you view it from an outside perspective it happens, but when it's viewed from the audience and makers at that time, there was nothing off about it.
Just because Nkapoor said she's never seen men holding hands in India doesn't make it true. First of all, it's not as common now in the cities because of changing cultural attitudes. But it was something that was not at all weird perhaps 15-20 years ago. What happened was that urban Indian sensibilities also changed. Stuff like Dostana, the gay gags in KHNH, they were a product of people attuned to more Western sensibilities. And those then made its way to the Indian Media, thus changing the Indian sensbilities even more.So what if people don't do that 'here?' You yourself acknowledged that it may not be weird for men to hold hands, but 'here' only gay partners do that.Well, the setting in the songs are not 'here.' If it wasn't weird in that setting, then it's not a big deal.People wanted to point out gay undertones to some stuff, and some others disagreed. That is all. You want to have your perspective, that's fine. And I'm just asserting my perspective, just as you are.
I didn't acknowledge that it isn't weird. I said it may not be weird TO people who are accustomed to it because of their cultural backdrop. Sure, the settings of these videos may not be "here", it may be "there" or on Mars for all I care, but the viewer at the end of the day is still me. So I will judge it the way I want to judge it. I may understand that cultural differences and perspectives exist, but at the end of the day I will still judge it the way I deem fit. For example, I may understand that cousin marriages are a norm in some parts of the world but why should I be expected to accept that or not call it incest?! Why shouldn't I judge things my way? Who's to say your way of seeings things is more accurate than mine? At the end of the day, these are just different opinions after all.
So I really don't understand why you seem to be so offended by people's opinions and remarks on this topic. Your POV on Anil/Sunny video or the Bobby Deol/Akshay video is just that, your POV, not hardcore facts etched in stone. Show it to 10 different people from 10 different social settings around the world and I assure you they will each give you a different account of how they view it. If you explain to them the cultural backdrop, they might understand where it is coming from, but they're not automatically going to drop their initial impression and see things your way. Nor should they be expected to.
These undertones aren't a big deal, that's why the TM and I are comfortably joking about it. We are not calling these actors homosexuals nor are we accusing the directors and choreographers of using these songs as a means to titillate the homosexual audience. If we were doing that then perhaps your umbrage would even make sense. The way I see it, this is a humorous topic thus the only one that's making it a big deal is you. Fine, you see no homoerotic undertones in that song, but others do. We're not trying to MAKE you see or feel those undertones or questioning you on why you don't see it our way so why are you trying to make us UNSEE these undertones? To us, they exist. To you, they don't. Simple concept, really. Live and let live. We don't all have to agree on the same thing all the time.
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