PR Today: Comedy Circus 4: April 30, 2013 - Page 2

Shyamala, almost tempted to turn the TV on (yes, it is PR time) after reading your take on today's dismal happenings in PR land.

Janhvi,

I don't think it can be for a 'microscopic examination of human behavior', for I cannot imagine any humans of any kind behaving the way most of this lot do, and so I suppose it is just masochism, or sheer habit.

But it can't be the last either, at least for me, for I have abandoned countless serials, the latest being BALH, after varying periods of tolerance, ranging from 2 weeks to 2 years as with BALH. PR is the only one that I have watched from the beginning, with only a brief break after the chawl case.

So masochism it is, plus the fact that Ekta and her minions periodically produce at least one new character out of a hat with whom you empathise, at least for a while. Like Onir for me. But now the empathy is almost gone, the idiot has made sure of that.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Shyamala, almost tempted to turn the TV on (yes, it is PR time) after reading your take on today's dismal happenings in PR land.

Why do we watch this serial or even read the updates I would like to know? Why the curious fascination that has become an addiction almost, couch it how we may, contempt (yes, referring to your other post), empathy , microscopic examination of human behavior, over this increasingly unbelievable tale of no sense? We must be gluttons for punishment or must enjoy the back and forth of this forum so much so that we gladly overlook the flaws in the story and argue about the goings on as if they were real men and women. I will fall back on that "willing suspension of disbelief" that we are called upon to exercise in daily doses of mammoth proportions.

Vasu my dear,

That is because you have not yet achieved the necessary level of lucid detachment. Never mind, if it took me, at my age, over 3 years to get here, you will do it much quicker.

As I wrote in this post, with Manav, it is not a question of hypocrisy; you do not say that the public prosecutor is hypocritical when he skewers the defence with everything he has got. It is up to the defence to look out for itself. Then again, I was very pleased that someone, at long last, asked Purvi what she thought she was doing with that baby swap.That has needed asking for a lo,,,ong time.

I am of course mainly bothered about its impact on Onir, for the rest of these loonies can fend for themselves, but now even that is fading, as he himself seems to be getting dumber by the day. I wonder why he was not there at the conclave to support his Mishti, he must definitely have been babysitting at home.

I also liked the sudden awakening of Manav from his habitual torpor, and Hiten did a very good job of it, just as Rithvik did with his pathetic Arjun. Since I am now quite detached, and do not give a damn what happens to any of them, I look out only for the performances, such as they are, not for the characters. So I am sorry, but I would not have skewered Manav in any case. It was a relief to watch all that finger pointing a la Archana, and all that high decibel delivery. Such a welcome change from, the earlier aartis for Purvi's mahaan tyaag, even by Manav.

So don't be upset with me, and as I always note, read these posts as pure fun, leaving your emotional attachments at the first line!

Take care, my dear.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: archis_2013

Dear Aunty, I went through the first half of the episode and I could take no more of the hypocrisy of Manav and the whole clan. Obviously he had a hidden pleasure in playing host to one and all of his loving family and raise his decibel levels of a netaji, roaring about his lost daughter and sing her virtues and raising the emotional levels of all audience with the full knowledge that Ovi was safe and he has the full knowledge of where she is and what is she doing. Er.. what was that 'missing' part about?

Never mind there was no family congregation when Purvi went missing. Never mind the small inconveniences.

I was quite amused when I went around the forum circles on how outstanding hiten was, naturally, we are all very objective in seeing the difference between a character and the actor. IT was a relief to come across your post, though I would have preferred a sharper knife taken at Manav and the last two episodes. 😊

I completely agree on the character assassination of Arjun and Purvi who have fallen out of grace from CVs point of view. I had written yesterday, Arju n was dead to me when he went pathetically and asked Ovi to stay because he had given Pari away. It is easy to play a hero or a villian who has a purpose in the show but for Rithvik to play the pathetic, incompetent Arjun is beyond comprehension. When we audience feel so much about what they were before to what they are now, how could the actors not feel the same when they have given life to those characters? It is only natural that they feel frustrated in their deep hearts but they still go around seeing the funnier side of the show, hats off to the maturity of these young actors.

dear shyamala aunty,

I cannot use my limited vocabulary enough to praise your crisp command on the english language! What a delightful satire on the episode! It is almost charming that you can dissociate the seriousness of the episode and put in the subconscious humor in the situation ! Loved your details of the moustache-heen DK, the irrelevant presence of ruchi, manju et al in the D house, the analysis on Arjun and rithvik both and finally your praise of manav the father!

I will agree with sowmya that even if you may have a different point of view and sometime I may not agree, the lucidity and brilliance of your words make it all a praiseworthy read! I will always enjoy your writing even if someday (hopefully not and I don't see that happening ever :) you become a purvi fan like most of this forum ;) I will still read and like your posts:)

as for rithvik, honestly I don't know if I can tell between his acting or his character anymore! Yesterday he stepped it up, but today I found him lacking but that could be the way his character has to react! I don't know what I was expecting him to act like in the position that he was in today! I have limited capacity for understanding the finer nuances so I couldn't tell..Arjun, the minute he is around purvi is another person! Kalapi mentioned in her post that she diagnoses him with bipolar and I have to agree. the man is a sher otherwise but purvi ke saamne chuuha. I hope he realizes that she and her love weakens him and this is a sign that this love was always poison for him. she did not just ground him but made sure to put an invisible leash that is still activated everytine she is in his visual radar. I loved your take on his appalled expression for divorce! wonder why they just don't give both of them the key to their happiness which is divorce? But then like everyone else said, Arjun is no 2 year old who has to follow dictates given by elders to make life-decisions. but I guess he is waiting for green signal from the leash commander! ;)

Why I like onir even a tad bit better than Arjun is his rare ability to be calm in stress situations. Although his stunted response to losing license, being poor and homeless and having no possibility for jobs of his calibre surprise me and irritate me. he isn't the one to buckle under stress but now this situation deems him stupid ad not calm anymore. plus his constant reassuring purvi of her behavior is cumbersome to watch. I mentioned in Kc that this may be headed for a silsila track and onir might give up on misthi, but sadly this poison will never let go of the safe haven and bobo doll for all get kaands that he provides. she knows Arjun is incapable of handling stress but onir will bring her out of every bad situation that she causes as Ofcourse take full blame and her paap on his head. so onir is poisoned until poor guy dies or runs away or gets a mental disorder. then on to the next bakra;)

I loved your explaining how onir being understanding is what is keeping Arjun from going cold turkey on purvi. He himself has no will power or motivation to let go of her, as seen today. It has to be someone giving him restraining orders and it should have been onir. It would have made a world of a difference if onir had been unforgiving about Arjun and purvis closeness even post marriage. the scene on the bed should have been a deal breaker with his new best buddy. but onir either is too nice a guy to believe or is simply oblivious to the two-timing wife he has. I wish it had been onir who told purvi that if she so wishes ovi and Arjuns bhalai they should move back to Calcutta and not keep in contact with the kirloslars. his time will come soon, but nice as he is he would rather give up on misthi than deprive her of her flirting escapades with her Pavitra love and baap of her baccha.

alas, purvi's half concealed truth and Bichari confession of her restrictions will def have Arjun think it was onir. putting the gun on someone else's shoulder and firing is her forte.

I hope your satirical take continues with each new episode that brings the shoddy ness of the cvs to light:)

P.s- loved the references to basilisk glare, draupadi and kunti! As well as poor pari living on mamta(?) and fresh air! next is the bare run in the rain with the baby in the red light district. God save the child from her own mother!

Pari, sweetheart,

If I could be sure of such warm praise, I would not mind writing for you every day - it is so satisfying to see the cracks one likes the best oneself similarly appreciated by another! I liked the Kunti and Karna parallel in this one, and the akshaya paatra bit as well, and I was very pleased that you noticed them and liked them.

I never really know when I start what exactly I am going to write, and I make it up as I go along, so sometimes one thinks up real corkers and at other times not. In Part 3, when I was commenting on the CVs recycling their rain sequences from ArMan to ArVi and now from ArVi to ArOvi, I added what I thought was a rather neat line "In these eco-conscious times, such a dedication to recycling is most commendable. " Alas, no one seemed to have spotted it at all!😭

It is not vanity, for I am long past that stage, but rather disappointment at having been unable to share a choice morsel with one's friends.

So you see, my dear Pari, how good you are for my morale, bless you! And it is very sweet of you to assure me that you will like my posts even if become a Purviphile, but you need not worry I do not see that happening any time.I liked her earlier only because of my affection for Arjun, not for herself, and all that has been leached out of me by her relentless do gooding and the collateral damages it inflicts on so many.

As for Arjun, Rithvik really brought him alive yesterday; it was a remarkably good performance.

Finally, as for Onir, my dear, I do not think, as the KC habituees do, that he does not feel the loss of all that he held dear. Not everyone is like Arjun, wearing his heart on his sleeve, plain for all to see. Onir is very different.

He might be stoic enough to cope with the public humiliation. But the loss of his profession is something else. A man who is shut out of something that is not just his profession but his passion will wither away slowly and die of depression. He is a very strong man, but he is not given to voicing his sorrows or his problems and this introverted nature makes matters worse for him. Shakti Arora's underplaying suits the character of Onit to a T.

It would normally have been for Purvi, as his wife, to redeem herself at least in part by being a loving, support for her shattered husband. It is very difficult to handle a man in the throes of depression because he has been shamed publicly and can no longer do the things that were his sole passion in life. He will shy away from pity or sympathy, and might resent it, though Onir is very gentle as a rule.

But I do not think she has either the sensitivity and the intelligence to be able to understand what Onir would be going thru, nor does she care enough for him to work at pulling him out of it. So far, she has always been a taker from Onir, and I do not expect this to change. To borrow Janhvi's phrase, and misuse it in a way she never intended😉, a leopard does not change its spots!

Shyamala Aunty

PS: If you go on and on any more about your supposedly 'limited vocabulary', I shall begin to think that you are fishing, my girl. The only thing with you is not the vocabulary, which is very good, but the tendency to get too het up about something, and say things you then feel you have to retract, but you do that most charmingly.

Originally posted by: pari87

dear shyamala aunty,

I cannot use my limited vocabulary enough to praise your crisp command on the english language! What a delightful satire on the episode! It is almost charming that you can dissociate the seriousness of the episode and put in the subconscious humor in the situation ! Loved your details of the moustache-heen DK, the irrelevant presence of ruchi, manju et al in the D house, the analysis on Arjun and rithvik both and finally your praise of manav the father!

I will agree with sowmya that even if you may have a different point of view and sometime I may not agree, the lucidity and brilliance of your words make it all a praiseworthy read! I will always enjoy your writing even if someday (hopefully not and I don't see that happening ever :) you become a purvi fan like most of this forum ;) I will still read and like your posts:)

as for rithvik, honestly I don't know if I can tell between his acting or his character anymore! Yesterday he stepped it up, but today I found him lacking but that could be the way his character has to react! I don't know what I was expecting him to act like in the position that he was in today! I have limited capacity for understanding the finer nuances so I couldn't tell..Arjun, the minute he is around purvi is another person! Kalapi mentioned in her post that she diagnoses him with bipolar and I have to agree. the man is a sher otherwise but purvi ke saamne chuuha. I hope he realizes that she and her love weakens him and this is a sign that this love was always poison for him. she did not just ground him but made sure to put an invisible leash that is still activated everytine she is in his visual radar. I loved your take on his appalled expression for divorce! wonder why they just don't give both of them the key to their happiness which is divorce? But then like everyone else said, Arjun is no 2 year old who has to follow dictates given by elders to make life-decisions. but I guess he is waiting for green signal from the leash commander! ;)

Why I like onir even a tad bit better than Arjun is his rare ability to be calm in stress situations. Although his stunted response to losing license, being poor and homeless and having no possibility for jobs of his calibre surprise me and irritate me. he isn't the one to buckle under stress but now this situation deems him stupid ad not calm anymore. plus his constant reassuring purvi of her behavior is cumbersome to watch. I mentioned in Kc that this may be headed for a silsila track and onir might give up on misthi, but sadly this poison will never let go of the safe haven and bobo doll for all get kaands that he provides. she knows Arjun is incapable of handling stress but onir will bring her out of every bad situation that she causes as Ofcourse take full blame and her paap on his head. so onir is poisoned until poor guy dies or runs away or gets a mental disorder. then on to the next bakra;)

I loved your explaining how onir being understanding is what is keeping Arjun from going cold turkey on purvi. He himself has no will power or motivation to let go of her, as seen today. It has to be someone giving him restraining orders and it should have been onir. It would have made a world of a difference if onir had been unforgiving about Arjun and purvis closeness even post marriage. the scene on the bed should have been a deal breaker with his new best buddy. but onir either is too nice a guy to believe or is simply oblivious to the two-timing wife he has. I wish it had been onir who told purvi that if she so wishes ovi and Arjuns bhalai they should move back to Calcutta and not keep in contact with the kirloslars. his time will come soon, but nice as he is he would rather give up on misthi than deprive her of her flirting escapades with her Pavitra love and baap of her baccha.

alas, purvi's half concealed truth and Bichari confession of her restrictions will def have Arjun think it was onir. putting the gun on someone else's shoulder and firing is her forte.

I hope your satirical take continues with each new episode that brings the shoddy ness of the cvs to light:)

P.s- loved the references to basilisk glare, draupadi and kunti! As well as poor pari living on mamta(?) and fresh air! next is the bare run in the rain with the baby in the red light district. God save the child from her own mother!

Pari, Soumya, Tejaswini,

After watching today's PR, I felt like I was going round in circles. Or it would be more accurate to say that PR is going round in circles while I watch it from a fixed position.

Rithvik was today as good as he was yesterday, and he got a solid amount of screen time for a change.But I could not understand what his character, Arjun, wants to make of the Arjun-Ovi-Purvi-Pari tangle. His appeals to Ovi seem heartfelt, and he is sensible in trying to play his only strong card, that of their friendship. But that friendship was barely in evidence till a couple of days ago, when she decided to throw in the towel and leave.

It is the same with his despairing wail to Purvi about how he misses Pari. But when she was his and Ovi's child, and was always around, I cannot remember seeing this kind of desperation and the eagerness on his part to spend every spare moment with her. His affection for her was there all right, but it was a relaxed and indulgent affection, not very demonstrative. That did not surprise me then, for men usually bond more easily with a somewhat older child, which does not have to be handled like Dresden porcelain. But once Pari was revealed to be Purvi;s child, Arjun started going overboard with overt affection for her, which was strange and detracted from his character. Today's pralaap was part of the same track.

There is no solution to this at all, unless Pari goes back to Arjun, with or without Ovi coming back to him. If he keeps visiting Pari in the kholi, tongues will start wagging pronto, as with Manav and Vaishali in that chawl. To be fair to him, Arjun seems to have no such intention, but will he be able to stay away from his daughter for keeps just to spare Purvi a fresh scandal?

It is all extremely messy. And if Ovi does come back now, what will Arjun do with the rest of the quadrangle?

As for his giving money for Pari to Purvi, I agree with the posts on the KC thread that he would have done better to have provided things for Pari in kind. Or else,and even better, a job for Onir in the firm of a friend of his, of course without letting him know how he got it.

Onir, who is doing a Manav to make a bit of money (remember how Manav too emptied a truck to earn the money to move into a chawl, and away from the pavement where he had left an ill Archana), has managed to earn only Rs.100/- (plus a tongue lashing from the shop owner), whereas the bundle of Rs.500 notes that Arjun gives Purvi must have been at least Rs.10,000/-. It remains to be seen how Onir feels when he learns about Arjun's largesse, and whether that will hurt his sense of self respect.

If the CVs who, as is increasingly evident, believe in recycling as a constant, push the parallel between Onir and Manav further, a Good Samaritan is due to arrive soon and open a new door for Onir, just as Aashna, and then DK, did for Sushant/Manav. It only remains to be seen if there is also an accident as on that occasion, with Onir left for dead on the road, till the aforesaid GS arrives.

Let us see what is revealed tomorrow, including why Purvi has to race thru the streets with Pari (not you, my dear!😉)

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Pari, sweetheart,

If I could be sure of such warm praise, I would not mind writing for you every day - it is so satisfying to see the cracks one likes the best oneself similarly appreciated by another! I liked the Kunti and Karna parallel in this one, and the akshaya paatra bit as well, and I was very pleased that you noticed them and liked them.

I never really know when I start what exactly I am going to write, and I make it up as I go along, so sometimes one thinks up real corkers and at other times not. In Part 3, when I was commenting on the CVs recycling their rain sequences from ArMan to ArVi and now from ArVi to ArOvi, I added what I thought was a rather neat line "In these eco-conscious times, such a dedication to recycling is most commendable. " Alas, no one seemed to have spotted it at all!😭

It is not vanity, for I am long past that stage, but rather disappointment at having been unable to share a choice morsel with one's friends.

So you see, my dear Pari, how good you are for my morale, bless you! And it is very sweet of you to assure me that you will like my posts even if become a Purviphile, but you need not worry I do not see that happening any time.I liked her earlier only because of my affection for Arjun, not for herself, and all that has been leached out of me by her relentless do gooding and the collateral damages it inflicts on so many.

As for Arjun, Rithvik really brought him alive yesterday; it was a remarkably good performance.

Finally, as for Onir, my dear, I do not think, as the KC habituees do, that he does not feel the loss of all that he held dear. Not everyone is like Arjun, wearing his heart on his sleeve, plain for all to see. Onir is very different.

He might be stoic enough to cope with the public humiliation. But the loss of his profession is something else. A man who is shut out of something that is not just his profession but his passion will wither away slowly and die of depression. He is a very strong man, but he is not given to voicing his sorrows or his problems and this introverted nature makes matters worse for him. Shakti Arora's underplaying suits the character of Onit to a T.

It would normally have been for Purvi, as his wife, to redeem herself at least in part by being a loving, support for her shattered husband. It is very difficult to handle a man in the throes of depression because he has been shamed publicly and can no longer do the things that were his sole passion in life. He will shy away from pity or sympathy, and might resent it, though Onir is very gentle as a rule.

But I do not think she has either the sensitivity and the intelligence to be able to understand what Onir would be going thru, nor does she care enough for him to work at pulling him out of it. So far, she has always been a taker from Onir, and I do not expect this to change. To borrow Janhvi's phrase, and misuse it in a way she never intended😉, a leopard does not change its spots!

Shyamala Aunty

PS: If you go on and on any more about your supposedly 'limited vocabulary', I shall begin to think that you are fishing, my girl. The only thing with you is not the vocabulary, which is very good, but the tendency to get too het up about something, and say things you then feel you have to retract, but you do that most charmingly.

Thanks, Kools.

I absolutely loved your recent take on Arjun on your own thread, as much as I did the other, mindblowing one on the AK thread (or something close to that as a title) a couple of months back. You are so often an absolute original.

I also agree with what you have said below about Arjun. He is a damned MCP, but a believable one despite, or perhaps because of all his flaws.

My bet is that Ovi will return to him after 3 months, and the baby will surface soon afterwards.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Very nice write up shyamala

liked RD's acting

am actually liking Arjun's pursuit of his wife . Haunted and chauvinistic , naive and faulty . the character is becoming interesting .