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Posted: 12 years ago
#31
Guniyal was wrong to have slapped Kumud. Kumud didn't go out loitering. She went to fix the work-related issue that VC seemed to have forgotten. It was not her fault that there was a bandh. How was she supposed to have reached home on time in such a situation? She couldn't have sprouted wings and flew home.
While I understand Guniyal's slap was a momentary reaction mainly due to her worry for Kumud's safety, I hope they show Guniyal apologize to Kumud and explain that she does trust her. I felt that more than Guman, Kumud needed to hear VC's explanation...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32
@Marybarton

You're looking at it primarily from a child's - a grown up child's POV and her rights. But I am looking at it primarily from Guniyal's POV as a human, as a mother, as in charge of the family and as a representative of her family to the society. And yes Guniyal has certain rights too.

I do not want to debate it further because I've already said whatever I wanted to and do not wish to repeat myself.

All I can add here is that I also look at it considering all of Kumud's recent actions with Saras and not just that one night (in which she had no fault in returning late). The girl is allowing that man to caress and romance her physically who has refused to marry her and is not even changing his decision yet. Her falling weak and their touching each other is what I consider deviant behaviour (and the norms of that orthodox area consider it the same). And I feel she deserved to witness this humiliation of her parents and family by Guman and that slap by her mother to get a stronger reality check and learn to control herself around Saras.

And so did Saras need to witness all this to know that he had to be in his limits especially if he had refused marriage! He couldn't keep experimenting or trying to get close to the girl or flirt with her if he was yet to change his decision about marriage from NO to YES.

I feel he has not had his mother around nor a sibling of the opposite sex to actually practically keep himself in limits. His mother gave him basic values as a kid but was not there to guide him as a teen & adolescent. That guy only knows how to supress himself but does not know how to control and regulate himself.
Growing up he has only witnessed his step mother throwing herself over his dad and his dad also giving in to her charms any moment she wanted. What proper guidance has he had after his mother's demise?

He turned out well on his own and with help of whatever values his mother had managed to impart him. But never got a practical reality check when he actually grew up. He's got one now.

I understand his confusions but do not justify his getting close to Kumud if he has already expressed he has no intentions of marrying her.
In his confusions and inner turmoil he can't go around caressing the girl and later apologising! Does he want to get "fully comfortable and sure" about her before he changes his NO to a YES?

For all his display of good character his romancing a girl who he's refused to marry is wrong and it seems like unknowingly he is taking advantage of the fact that she is hopelessly in love with him. It's not like he does not know she loved him for Kumari told him all about her dreams etc.

Lastly, VC & Kumud's siblings were also wrong in pushing the two to be together initially. They were just suitors! Not even engaged. Still they'd lock them together alone or push them to be closer.

That so called sanskari family has not been entirely right either in dealing with things.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
I don't think Kumud deserved to be slapped but I don't think Guniyal was wrong either. She is a mother, she was worried sick and Guman's taunts towards her daughter weren't helping. When she saw Kumud all her helplessness and frustration came out in a slap. Yes it was wrong but we have to judge these characters as real people, not with our perception of what a perfect mother should be like. Guniyal has been very supportive but she has the right to slip up every now and then as she is human and humans make mistakes.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
this is a tv show.i would like to mention as somebody brought up the slap topic from another forum.a tv show has nothing to do with values, morals, whatever.phs are only concerned abt the bottom line which are the trps.a slap becomes the high point or adds drama and hence it is used to bring shock value.you can keep arguing abt its correctness but in the end its just a tv show, and you cant let it affect you.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: anoo67

this is a tv show.i would like to mention as somebody brought up the slap topic from another forum.a tv show has nothing to do with values, morals, whatever.phs are only concerned abt the bottom line which are the trps.a slap becomes the high point or adds drama and hence it is used to bring shock value.you can keep arguing abt its correctness but in the end its just a tv show, and you cant let it affect you.



I am well aware that it is a TV show and such dramatics is for TRP. I also addressed that being part of the problem in the TM. But isn't this the point of a forum? To discuss characters and actions. I am not aware of any rules limiting me from posting two topics in different forums that address the issue of heroines being slapped around for TRP generation.

TV has a big influence on a general population and it reinforces the very practices it depicts, it can't be shrugged off as entirely separate. I am not expecting anyone to agree with me here, we are all coming from our own points of views and just trying to have a discussion here.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@Marybarton

You're looking at it primarily from a child's - a grown up child's POV and her rights. But I am looking at it primarily from Guniyal's POV as a human, as a mother, as in charge of the family and as a representative of her family to the society. And yes Guniyal has certain rights too.

I do not want to debate it further because I've already said whatever I wanted to and do not wish to repeat myself.

All I can add here is that I also look at it considering all of Kumud's recent actions with Saras and not just that one night (in which she had no fault in returning late). The girl is allowing that man to caress and romance her physically who has refused to marry her and is not even changing his decision yet. Her falling weak and their touching each other is what I consider deviant behaviour (and the norms of that orthodox area consider it the same). And I feel she deserved to witness this humiliation of her parents and family by Guman and that slap by her mother to get a stronger reality check and learn to control herself around Saras.

And so did Saras need to witness all this to know that he had to be in his limits especially if he had refused marriage! He couldn't keep experimenting or trying to get close to the girl or flirt with her if he was yet to change his decision about marriage from NO to YES.

I feel he has not had his mother around nor a sibling of the opposite sex to actually practically keep himself in limits. His mother gave him basic values as a kid but was not there to guide him as a teen & adolescent. That guy only knows how to supress himself but does not know how to control and regulate himself.
Growing up he has only witnessed his step mother throwing herself over his dad and his dad also giving in to her charms any moment she wanted. What proper guidance has he had after his mother's demise?

He turned out well on his own and with help of whatever values his mother had managed to impart him. But never got a practical reality check when he actually grew up. He's got one now.

I understand his confusions but do not justify his getting close to Kumud if he has already expressed he has no intentions of marrying her.
In his confusions and inner turmoil he can't go around caressing the girl and later apologising! Does he want to get "fully comfortable and sure" about her before he changes his NO to a YES?

For all his display of good character his romancing a girl who he's refused to marry is wrong and it seems like unknowingly he is taking advantage of the fact that she is hopelessly in love with him. It's not like he does not know she loved him for Kumari told him all about her dreams etc.

Lastly, VC & Kumud's siblings were also wrong in pushing the two to be together initially. They were just suitors! Not even engaged. Still they'd lock them together alone or push them to be closer.

That so called sanskari family has not been entirely right either in dealing with things.



I was merely responding to how I interpreted the scene because you wrote a strong objection to how I was seeing it Skepblun, I wasn't trying to change your viewpoint. We do see things differently and that is okay. I still consider Gunial weak for taking out her anger on her daughter. But that is just how I saw it and it is fine if you see differently. Don't feel defensive or the need to repeat. Neither of us are trying to change each other's pov or trying to convince each other. It kind of falls on every viewer to interpret the show as they see fit. In the forum, we are just trying to have a respectful discussion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Marybarton



I am well aware that it is a TV show and such dramatics is for TRP. I also addressed that being part of the problem in the TM. But isn't this the point of a forum? To discuss characters and actions. I am not aware of any rules limiting me from posting two topics in different forums that address the issue of heroines being slapped around for TRP generation.

TV has a big influence on a general population and it reinforces the very practices it depicts, it can't be shrugged off as entirely separate. I am not expecting anyone to agree with me here, we are all coming from our own points of views and just trying to have a discussion here.

i think i did not express myself properly.this is a forum where various topics are going to be discussed and thats the interesting part.i was not referring to you but to someone else who has commented on your post(dont recollect the name)people tend to get very excited going into the whys of such actions when the simple answer is just trp.not intending to put down your point of view.sorry if it came across as that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38
I hate her! She is a weak, selfish and annoying character!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39
I find Guniyal's character a little confusing. Initially she was shown as a very strong woman. I never expected her to slap Kumud, just because Gumaan said something. She should have instead shut the mouth of Gumaan by saying that she trusts her daughter.

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