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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jagya is something else. You in the saying u only miss the water when the well is dry. This is exactly Jagya. He doesn't want to to be a fool but in the end he is. He still loves Anandi? What rubbish! He found loss love.. he is a confusing character with a lot lot of anger and stubborn-ness. He still has a huge ego? Where IA the change?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I fully agree! Jagya is not the right guy for Ganga. Ganga has suffered all through her life and suffered way more than other female characters of this show - with all the constant violence - verbal, emotional and physical. She deserves to be with a guy like Shyam (who'd go to any extent to make Sugna smile!) or Shiv, who is mature, wise, has empathy and is mentally sound himself.

Jagya maybe on his nth path of reformation now or may be nice. But he is not wise, not balanced emotionally, his basic nature is impulsive and he isn't giving, nor patient or emotionally intelligent. Plus he's unpredictable (you never know what his mind can veer into!) and he is recovering himself. So how will he heal Ganga or make her life filled with happiness?

So far Jagya's only saved Ganga with his herogiri. It is the Singhs who've tried to make Ganga happy and most of the psychological healing has come from them and Anandi, not Jagya.

He's a confused guy and is on a shaky ground himself. He shouted at her and that took Ganga back to her days of abuse, that she got so scared. Jagya needs to change a lot to be an ideal man for Ganga and that change isn't going to come over anytime soon in a man like him.

Ganga doesn't just need a nice guy. She needs an ideal and the perfect guy, someone who's goodness personified.

I myself do not approve of Jagya for Ganga.

I should also add, Singhs are also not past Anandi yet and till now, they have ended up comparing Ganga (and her cooked food etc.) to Anandi and time and time again said no one can be like Anandi. Ganga may take it in right spirit now because she's thankful to all of them and is in awe of them (Anandi included). But Ganga deserves those who value her for who she is (I think she's suffered more than Anandi and has been way bolder than Anandi in fighting against injustice meted to her because she was on her own always, unlike Anandi who had Bhairon or later whole Singh family to support her)
and Singhs can't give her that, nor can Jagya (who *still loves* Anandi! Ha!).

I don't want Ganga to live under someone else's shadow or forever try to emulate someone else.

She does NOT deserve stupid Singhs or Jagya (whose supposed reformation has not been completed yet).
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

I fully agree! Jagya is not the right guy for Ganga. Ganga has suffered all through her life and suffered way more than other female characters of this show - with all the constant violence - verbal, emotional and physical. She deserves to be with a guy like Shyam (who'd go to any extent to make Sugna smile!) or Shiv, who is mature, wise, has empathy and is mentally sound himself.

Jagya maybe on his nth path of reformation now or may be nice. But he is not wise, not balanced emotionally, his basic nature is impulsive and he isn't giving, nor patient or emotionally intelligent. Plus he's unpredictable (you never know what his mind can veer into!) and he is recovering himself. So how will he heal Ganga or make her life filled with happiness?

So far Jagya's only saved Ganga with his herogiri. It is the Singhs who've tried to make Ganga happy and most of the psychological healing has come from them and Anandi, not Jagya.

He's a confused guy and is on a shaky ground himself. He shouted at her and that took Ganga back to her days of abuse, that she got so scared. Jagya needs to change a lot to be an ideal man for Ganga and that change isn't going to come over anytime soon in a man like him.

Ganga doesn't just need a nice guy. She needs an ideal and the perfect guy, someone who's goodness personified.

I myself do not approve of Jagya for Ganga.

I should also add, Singhs are also not past Anandi yet and till now, they have ended up comparing Ganga (and her cooked food etc.) to Anandi and time and time again said no one can be like Anandi. Ganga may take it in right spirit now because she's thankful to all of them and is in awe of them (Anandi included). But Ganga deserves those who value her for who she is (I think she's suffered more than Anandi and has been way bolder than Anandi in fighting against injustice meted to her because she was on her own always, unlike Anandi who had Bhairon or later whole Singh family to support her)
and Singhs can't give her that, nor can Jagya (who *still loves* Anandi! Ha!).

I don't want Ganga to live under someone else's shadow or forever try to emulate someone else.

She does NOT deserve stupid Singhs or Jagya (whose supposed reformation has not been completed yet).



His impulsive and nor patient will all get dissolved in front of her this fear and pain which she had gone through in her life time. He will help her to stand on her own feet. we need not approve jagya for ganga but ganga will approve him as her life partner. verysoon and will tell the reasons also why she had chosen him and all ur doubt will be get cleared 😉

Edited by vidya0000 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

I fully agree! Jagya is not the right guy for Ganga. Ganga has suffered all through her life and suffered way more than other female characters of this show - with all the constant violence - verbal, emotional and physical. She deserves to be with a guy like Shyam (who'd go to any extent to make Sugna smile!) or Shiv, who is mature, wise, has empathy and is mentally sound himself.

Jagya maybe on his nth path of reformation now or may be nice. But he is not wise, not balanced emotionally, his basic nature is impulsive and he isn't giving, nor patient or emotionally intelligent. Plus he's unpredictable (you never know what his mind can veer into!) and he is recovering himself. So how will he heal Ganga or make her life filled with happiness?

So far Jagya's only saved Ganga with his herogiri. It is the Singhs who've tried to make Ganga happy and most of the psychological healing has come from them and Anandi, not Jagya.

He's a confused guy and is on a shaky ground himself. He shouted at her and that took Ganga back to her days of abuse, that she got so scared. Jagya needs to change a lot to be an ideal man for Ganga and that change isn't going to come over anytime soon in a man like him.

Ganga doesn't just need a nice guy. She needs an ideal and the perfect guy, someone who's goodness personified.

I myself do not approve of Jagya for Ganga.

I should also add, Singhs are also not past Anandi yet and till now, they have ended up comparing Ganga (and her cooked food etc.) to Anandi and time and time again said no one can be like Anandi. Ganga may take it in right spirit now because she's thankful to all of them and is in awe of them (Anandi included). But Ganga deserves those who value her for who she is (I think she's suffered more than Anandi and has been way bolder than Anandi in fighting against injustice meted to her because she was on her own always, unlike Anandi who had Bhairon or later whole Singh family to support her)
and Singhs can't give her that, nor can Jagya (who *still loves* Anandi! Ha!).

I don't want Ganga to live under someone else's shadow or forever try to emulate someone else.

She does NOT deserve stupid Singhs or Jagya (whose supposed reformation has not been completed yet).


Love need not be always one-sided like in case of sugna-shyam or anandi-shiv where a man who is an epitome of wisdom and maturity, whch is a rare case in real life, follows a woman with patience and waits for her to fall in love with him.

Neither sugna nor anandi loved her man at the beginning but gradually fell in love after realising how the man was sacrificing his own life for her sake. This may not be the case in each and every love story. Love CAN happen mutually and both parties CAN understand each other and help each other to overcome their past trauma.

It is a myth that a woman needs a man to fill her life with happiness. Its not the man's duty alone to make a woman happy. They both must make each other happy.

Yes, Singhs, especially sumitra, are stupid I agree. I myself posted this on another thread. But jagya is not stupid. He has suffered a lot and he now understands the meaning of companionship. Its just that he has to feel love for the woman which he will surely do when a woman like ganga is around.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I know many of you will think i am mad but the way Anandi, a sweet, matured and loving girl had behaved with Shiv after marriage sometimes a i feel that what if Ganga gets same guy like Shiv and she behaved the same way like Anandi...i don"t know why but i think it will be Singhs who will make her remarry and if they find a guy like Shiv for her too than she will be in debt to them and like Anandi she will too run off with every chance she gets and will ignore her husband because he is very easy-going like Shiv...sometimes the way Anandi had behaved with Shiv makes me feel that Anandi had taken advantage of his goodness and this was not what Shiv deserved although now thankfully she has improved a lot and does notice and places Shiv in her top priority list...i am still in shock and hurt with the way Anandi had behaved with Shiv in her initials days of marriage (not the consummation part...there she was right and no fault of hers) by giving a damm to her his feelings and looking out for Singhs and Jagya only
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Shinya

Firstly, I don't think marriage is necessary or compulsory at all for a woman's happiness (or even a man's) or the only panacea for all her suffering and wounds she's suffered in life.

Secondly, given the abuse and level of struggle Ganga has faced all her life I want her to have an ideal man for herself if she is to have one. Not someone like Jagya who, even if reforming, is still on a shaky ground mentally.

I do not agree with your points about love being one sided or two sided because I feel both Ganga and Jagya are not in love with each other as of now. She is only grateful to him and he only helped her out of humanity plus as his way to somehow atone for the sins he'd committed against women in his own life. Love or attraction has not happened between the two as of now.

And as I said, I don't want Ganga to live under someone else (read Anandi's) shadow and be compared to her all the time either by Singhs or at any point of time by Jagya. It's a nice but stupid family in which except Bhairon no one knows appropriate way to talk and are never sensitive to what impact their words would have on the other. I wish Ganga either lives independently like Phooli or gets an ideal family and a perfect man.

Please read whole post instead of basing your replies on just one part which you focus on and highlight in bold. Thanks!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@libsrocks

Ganga is not attached to Singhs as much as Anandi was. It's a good samaritan deal between them as of now so I don't think if she remarries she'll behave like Sugna or Anandi and run (!!!) to Singhs! LOL!

The only person she's obsessively attached to, is her son Mannu. Not anyone else from her in-laws or the Singhs.

Her relationship, connection and experience with Singhs is poles apart from the one which Sugna and Anandi had with them.

If at all, she will "ignore" her husband, she may do it due to Mannu (because a mother's attachment is far greater than anything else in this world) and not anyone else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I just don't want anyone for Ganga. I want her to get educated and be able to stand on her own feet and then look after her kid, to make him a better person.

Jagya and singhs are already helping her out and would be nice if she gets the necessary help and one day move out of there with her son.

I feel it is not always necessary for an abused woman to get married to someone. She can live on her own and set an example to the society.

As for Jagya, i still feel Gauri would complete him. I know she is egoistic and doesn't give a damn about Jagya at this stage, but if a given a chance she will also change.

In her own perspective she is deprived of love but if this changed J gives her the love she needs, she will change too. I still find J-Gau as a perfect couple, but not Ja-Ganga
Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

@Shinya

Firstly, I don't think marriage is necessary or compulsory at all for a woman's happiness (or even a man's) or the only panacea for all her suffering and wounds she's suffered in life.

Secondly, given the abuse and level of struggle Ganga has faced all her life I want her to have an ideal man for herself if she is to have one. Not someone like Jagya who, even if reforming, is still on a shaky ground mentally.

I do not agree with your points about love being one sided or two sided because I feel both Ganga and Jagya are not in love with each other as of now. She is only grateful to him and he only helped her out of humanity plus as his way to somehow atone for the sins he'd committed against women in his own life. Love or attraction has not happened between the two as of now.

And as I said, I don't want Ganga to live under someone else (read Anandi's) shadow and be compared to her all the time either by Singhs or at any point of time by Jagya. It's a nice but stupid family in which except Bhairon no one knows appropriate way to talk and are never sensitive to what impact their words would have on the other. I wish Ganga either lives independently like Phooli or gets an ideal family and a perfect man.

Please read whole post instead of basing your replies on just one part which you focus on and highlight in bold. Thanks!


Dear, I have neither bashed my replies nor have I mentioned anywhere that jagya and ganga are in love.

You feel jagya is not ideal for her, that is your point which you are entitled to have. I read your whole post and I also agreed with some of your points such as singhs are stupid. ganga is compared with anandi by his mother, not by him.

I have also read your other posts supporting gauri. Let me tell you, I have also always supported gauri as I felt that she was a bigger victim than anandi. However, I dont blame jagya either. The circumstances were such that he fell in love with gauri, he thought his first marriage was illegal, so went ahead and married her and later realised his mistake. He made some blunders in his life, but that does not mean he cannot be a good husband to anyone. This is my pov.

In yesterday's episode he was not mentally shaky but was upset with what anandi said to him and was a bit agitated. He had told his father firmly that he doesnt want to marry again. Neither shiv and anandi had any business to interfere in his personal matters and give him unsolicited advice nor had ganga any business to preach him why he should drink milk. Why cant they respect his decision? We cant blame jagya for everything.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hate the way Ganga is being treated by everyone. they keep ordering her and shouting at her all the time as if she is a servant there. also, the constant comparison with anandi 🥱 i'm sick of it. poor girl. instead of gaining confidence, she may lose all of it completely.

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