Indian television - A debate - Page 6

Created

Last reply

Replies

59

Views

5.5k

Users

37

Likes

206

Frequent Posters

Jayne thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 13 years ago
#51
Rocker,

I really think PHs ought to operate as if they were making mega-movies or tele-novellas for the TV medium:

1. Have a complete story, start to finish, with each part broken down into episode 'arcs'; i.e. 10 episodes (2 weeks) dealing with one issue progressing to next part of story and so on.

2. This limits the show to no more than 6 months...though 3 months is where I have seen Soaps break down, let's give them an addition 3 months if this is a set ime-limit production

3. Find backing; i.e. sponsors; and get production team in place.

4. Sell the idea to a channel.

5. Cast for leads and other actors.

6. Start and finish with one director, who has the entire story in his/her mind and work it like it is a movie, setting the tone for the last scene from the opening scene onward.

This will greatly improve story, acting, direction, creativity, and remove a lot of headaches for PHs and production/creative teams.

This also enables stories to be based on the current times (not regressive); showcases new and emerging talent instead of the same faces year after year, and greatly improves creativity.

This model works successfully in many countries; Korea, for instance, or Spanish television which has a lot of tele-novellas.

The temptation is always there to prolong the show even past its story-line when it has very high ratings, because the channel is making money, the PH is making money and the viewers are loving it.
This is where self-discipline comes into play and the channel and PH must remain firm and cut it off at the pre-determined date.

There will be more shows cued to start that may do equally well, and the PH can always come back with more shows.


Jayne

RMamsa thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 13 years ago
#52
Do you feel it's possible to film daily soaps in advance and air them out in seasons of 4 month's followed by a 2 month break?
Will that give the PH enough time for editing? I know it will give actors the break they keep longing for and writers the time to create concrete story lines & well written scripts.

Pakistani dramas are usually fantastic but one must note that they are usually 13-22 episodes long and are mostly weekly soaps. That's been a trend since the very start and there for the audience dsn't mind waiting but with Indian soaps we are really used to dailies and a PH would have to take a big risk with a fantastic cast to draw in audiences for a weekly.
I really liked Teri Meri love stories but it just had to be pulled off cuz the masses dint seem happy with a weekly.
whatthewhat thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#53
Oh what a fantastic post Rockerchic! 👏

Thanks RMamsa for bumping this up.

Seriously, Indian TV is sooo awful! I've been complaining about this since the day I joined IF! 😆 The daily routine does create its problems, but the funny thing is audiences are also constantly complaining about editing howlers, bloopers, abysmal acting and so on...so why is there no change?!

Indian TV has tried doing better quality shows (better qualityin every way, script, acting, editing, cinematography) but it didn't seem to work! Let's face it, when a certain kind of urban audience wants entertainment that doesn't require a lobotomy, they turn to foreign shows... a real pity.

And let's not forget, before the advent of cable, we did have quality shows on TV...

I really hope this changes soon...I like desi drama. It's a nostalgia thing for me, but I can only take so much crap...
Jayne thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 13 years ago
#54
To me the regression is so marked, it is really shocking...
For example, there were truly progressive, uplifting, motivational shows like 'Udaan' that focused on women having career dreams and achieving them!

Love/marriage, etc., happened along the way but were in no way the main theme nor were they hindrances to achieving something on one's own merit and being self-sufficient.

Now the prime objective of every female on TV - educated or not; working or not - is marriage, satisfying everyone of her in-laws' unreasonable demands, be the 'ideal DIL' under even torturous conditions, with a sermon delivered at the end of abrupt cancellation of such shows on 'goodness' of such DILs that turn the in-laws' around to the 'good' path.

Yuck!🤢

Is it any wonder, when there is a slap by a male lead on the female lead, it is accepted by most viewers without even a demur...this is perhaps what they have seen growing up, or experienced, and think it is par for the course.
NOT!

Jayne

whatthewhat thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Jayne

To me the regression is so marked, it is really shocking...
For example, there were truly progressive, uplifting, motivational shows like 'Udaan' that focused on women having career dreams and achieving them!

Love/marriage, etc., happened along the way but were in no way the main theme nor were they hindrances to achieving something on one's own merit and being self-sufficient.

Now the prime objective of every female on TV - educated or not; working or not - is marriage, satisfying everyone of her in-laws' unreasonable demands, be the 'ideal DIL' under even torturous conditions, with a sermon delivered at the end of abrupt cancellation of such shows on 'goodness' of such DILs that turn the in-laws' around to the 'good' path.

Yuck!🤢

Is it any wonder, when there is a slap by a male lead on the female lead, it is accepted by most viewers without even a demur...this is perhaps what they have seen growing up, or experienced, and think it is par for the course.
NOT!

Jayne


LOVED your post! 👏

@bold red: Triple YUCK!
Seriously, it's as though we have regressed a few centuries...In many ways I think it's a backlash against the progress women are making in India. Women are now a growing part of the working force, and mare making inroads into all sorts of domains that were once exclusively male. No wonder some people are feeling attacked and defensive. The TV bahu that puts up with the most unbelievable crap is pure fantasy. The world has changed and some people want the good ol' days back when women stayed at home and kept their mouths shut...Yeah, Good luck with that!

Unfortunately, we seem to buying this fantasy! It's incredible! The general passivity and apathy of audiences is quite disturbing. I am never an advocate of censorship, but unfortunately it has come to that. The censor board has made new rules about the depiction of violence against women in films. Sooner or later it will apply to TV also, where such things are liable to have a larger impact.




-Alinaa- thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#56
I am loving this forum, though I am not regular viewer of QH, coz there are so many sensible discussions going on.. I am glad I landed up on this forum.

Now back to the topic.

1)Do you think Indian television should shift to a weekly basis? Or do you think that daily soaps are best suited for an Indian audience?
I live in US, watch 2 indian shows regularly and watch few American TV shows too. Therefore, I am not sure if I am counted as Indian audience. But in my opinion, yes, Indian Tv should shift to weekly basis 45 min air time, mainly for quality issues. Don't you think the content shown in five/six episodes can be shown properly in 45 min? I do. They stretch the scenes, prolong the dialogues, show 5 min of eye locks only, show visual effects (like showing shocked expressions three times), coz they don't have enough content to show, and not to mention the bloopers..This has affected the quality.
In my case, whenever I watch QH, I watch it online (so not responsible for TRPs), and finish watching it in 5 min (by fast forwarding, skipping scenes), still get the gist of the episode. So in my case, their hard-work in creating the rest 15-20 min of scenes is wasted.

There are other issues like hectic schedules, actors not getting enough rest etc. This could be one of the reasons, many actors are quitting their jobs.

I am presenting my views only as an audience who wants to watch good quality works.
There are positive sides of daily soaps too, like the job opportunities it has created, the incentives actors get etc. But as a viewer, my only concern is what I see on screen.


2)Put in another way - Do you want quality product every single episode or are you fine with getting the occasional great scene as long as you get to see your favourite characters everyday?
I guess I have answered that already. Quality over quantity any time.

BTW, I liked to watch Rishta.com, so sad that they pulled it off so soon
Edited by -Alinaa- - 13 years ago
SiasCreations thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 13 years ago
#57
Weekly shows anyday. Ratings would be higher, quality would be better & I would be able to still do well in school! 😆
AshRun thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#58
Hi!! I came to the forum after a long time after seeing that the show is doing good on the TRP charts and came across this interesting conversation. Thanks for initiating it 😊 I am all for the weekly format!!
The biggest issue is that producers in our industry rejoice when they complete 100, 500, 1000 episodes without realizing that they are unnecessarily putting in a ridiculous amount of work everyday and ruining the quality of the drama in an effort to make the show run for a long time.
"Grey's Anatomy" in the US has been going on for 8 years, and they only did 188 epis so far, but those epis are mind-blowing in my opinion. Almost everyone here knows how amazing the content is and also that it is an old show with a good reputation... I remember the drama "Humsafar" was really succesful in Pakistan, and it reached TRPs of 13.8 which is like WOW...and even immensely popular shows in India never reach that range. Although the reason for that is that there is a lot more competition in India than there is in Pakistan. There are so many channels that have daily soaps on them but even then, I feel like the TRPs for the highest TRP gainers right now are not as high as they should be. I'm not saying that they are awesome because I don't like the current top 5 shows at all lol l, but if India is so populated and the TV audience is so large that movie producers are attracted to it then the TRPs of the so-called best shows should be way higher in my opinion.The weekly format will definitely leave a more lasting impression on the audiences mind, and producers will have the ability to impact the audience for a longg time instead of having to wrap up the show in a few years or less by throwing in some weird episodes here and there.
Edited by AshRun - 13 years ago
-Su- thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#59
I think they should shift to a weekly basis. Quality matters more than quantity anyway. In any case, Indian shows are so stretched that one week's worth of content can easily be fitted into one hour-long episode :P

Aside from QH, all the shows I watch are American and I'm completely obsessed with some of them. It doesn't bother me that I have to wait for an episode for a week as long as the episode is good. Some shows have been going on for 8-10 years and they're still awesome. Indian shows mostly turn completely ridiculous after about 3 years. The cast and crew simply don't have enough time to work on the show properly. More time has to be put in to come up with a good-quality episode.

Maybe the daily-soap concept should be rolled out slowly. 3-episodes-a-week, then two-episodes-a-week and finally one-episode-a-week, so the Indian audience is eased into the concept.
DiamondLife thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#60
I wish they go like USA style..where they shoot one season for 4-6 months and then it airs..while actors r taking break..then again back to shooting for next season.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".