Dilshad...a mother or a wife? - Page 5

Originally posted by: adeeti10

Yeah, life imitates art and vice versa. So while I hate censorship, the fact that regulatory bodies like IBF and CBFC believe that if creative people aren't self regulating, then they must issue advisories, suggests that this is a big debate for which no one has found a real answer😊

It's an Indian show, I agree... But when I look at some Pakistani dramas, I wish we could take a leaf out of their notes, when it comes to portraying drama. And here I'm talking about South Asia, not the west.

Regarding your corollary about children and parents wrt to child abuse, and its after effects, I don't think the two are related. In extreme cases where children are brought up in a hostile environment, it affects them emotionally. And in India, we don't have a mechanism to protect the rights of that child. Maybe the western thinking is way different, but we need some level of awareness if child rights here.

I don't think that children leaving their parents has anything to do with how much or less they love their parents. Often children move to cities or even move countries on work and parents either prefer to live in their hometown or in India simply because they like the quality of life they have here. So traditions are changing here as well. And it's not for the worse.

Groupism... It's happening because people who are in the minority are being ridiculed, censored and pushed out. There are numerous posts making fun of our views while if we say something against someone who riled us, or even criticise the show, it's reported and threads are closed.

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The forum reflects social behaviour... Take a majority that tries to shut a minority opinion, and people who never before knew each other and feel marginalised, will join hands and speak up. That's what you see... It's not something we created... It's something that's happened as a consequence of the vibes on this forum. It was dormant prior to the slap episode... But it's more pronounced now.

That said, I'm not in anyone group. It's not us versus them for me.😃It's issued based. No personal vendetta, only disagreements on issues.

I'm glad we agree that everyone had the right to their opinion.

As for your quote on perception, that again in itself is your perception.😊

I'm all for dialogue and communication. That's the only way we can keep society and our forum sane. So please don't apologise or feel that you offended anyone by posting your views here. Do visit again.

I agree with you in the fact the censorship is really a debatable issue.Let's not talk about it😆

I think let's leave the government to discuss on children and adult rights coz a fiction show like Qubool Hai is not going to bring a major change regarding the rights of children in the Indian society because Asad is not the first child who got slapped onscreen and nor was he the first child to be abandoned by his father coz his dad ditched his mum and went after some other woman.
We have seen National awards and many more awards to movies and shows that have presented such(and different) forms of evil doings by men/women in the society.If the changes had to happen,they might have happened many years before for sure. 😆 And yes regarding the matter where children leave their parents,I think every religion preaches that children should serve their parents and take care of them.In Islam, it is said that a man shall be accountable before Allah first regarding the duties he performed for his wife,children and parents before he shall be questioned about his other deeds.Anyways let's not talk about the unrelated issues here.I wonder why I brought it up.😆
I know u were talking about South Asia but I talked about the west so that I can focus on few things that have been influenced from the western culture in Indian society.
Regarding the groupism here,it's really sad to that some people think that they belong to minority and others are trying to bully them.
Gosh!! I don't belong to any group for sure just like you😆. I'm glad that we are sailing in the same boat regarding this issue.😆

Well threads get closed down because people start fighting.Everyone has the right to press the report button.At times,I feel that people should use the report button if they feel that post is not criticizing an issue but is actually a negative criticism/bashing, more than getting into arguments and offending each other.
Oh I'm aware about the dormant state of the groupism before the slap issue but it really irks me to see open wars between two sides..
I wish the peace on the forum may come back soon.
Ab sirf 4LIONS ka sahara hai.Only they can show us something on which all the people can come at truce for a change. 🤣

Your line about my perception quote is very true indeed. 😉
When wars could be solved on paper and treaties could be signed,I pray and wish that some mere issues related to the show or actors in it may also be resolved peacefully on the forum. 😉
It's really fun to read ur posts Adeeti.
Keep writing sweetheart!!
🤗
Take care
PS-Plz update TLC before I begin spamming there.I'm a real despo for one of my favourite ASYA ff u know. 😉

Well written and I 100% agree ! Honestly Indian serials need to do away with this slapping bullshit, we weren't raised in a damn jungle so I think we can handle matters without getting violent . Dilshad disappointed me today too because Rashid is not exactly innocent, he definitely deserves to go to jail and I truly hope later on the writers don't try to force Dlishad/ Rashid down our throats later because that relationship will always make me uncomfortable. Also Zoya needs to enroll to Asad in some anger management classes before they get married incase he gets angry again and b*tchslaps her back to New York 😆.

well written! dilshad still trust rashid, now she is getting through an emotional phase of life many shocking couple of events had hit her way leaving her shattered.. asad pointing gun towards his father hurted her to the core..her son putting his own father behind the bars was shocking to her..i think in this circumstance a mother slapping her son is justifyable upto some extent

Originally posted by: crazy4KASH_AR

I agree with you in the fact the censorship is really a debatable issue.Let's not talk about it😆

I think let's leave the government to discuss on children and adult rights coz a fiction show like Qubool Hai is not going to bring a major change regarding the rights of children in the Indian society because Asad is not the first child who got slapped onscreen and nor was he the first child to be abandoned by his father coz his dad ditched his mum and went after some other woman.
We have seen National awards and many more awards to movies and shows that have presented such(and different) forms of evil doings by men/women in the society.If the changes had to happen,they might have happened many years before for sure. 😆 And yes regarding the matter where children leave their parents,I think every religion preaches that children should serve their parents and take care of them.In Islam, it is said that a man shall be accountable before Allah first regarding the duties he performed for his wife,children and parents before he shall be questioned about his other deeds.Anyways let's not talk about the unrelated issues here.I wonder why I brought it up.😆
I know u were talking about South Asia but I talked about the west so that I can focus on few things that have been influenced from the western culture in Indian society.
Regarding the groupism here,it's really sad to that some people think that they belong to minority and others are trying to bully them.
Gosh!! I don't belong to any group for sure just like you😆. I'm glad that we are sailing in the same boat regarding this issue.😆

Well threads get closed down because people start fighting.Everyone has the right to press the report button.At times,I feel that people should use the report button if they feel that post is not criticizing an issue but is actually a negative criticism/bashing, more than getting into arguments and offending each other.
Oh I'm aware about the dormant state of the groupism before the slap issue but it really irks me to see open wars between two sides..
I wish the peace on the forum may come back soon.
Ab sirf 4LIONS ka sahara hai.Only they can show us something on which all the people can come at truce for a change. 🤣

Your line about my perception quote is very true indeed. 😉
When wars could be solved on paper and treaties could be signed,I pray and wish that some mere issues related to the show or actors in it may also be resolved peacefully on the forum. 😉
It's really fun to read ur posts Adeeti.
Keep writing sweetheart!!
🤗
Take care
PS-Plz update TLC before I begin spamming there.I'm a real despo for one of my favourite ASYA ff u know. 😉

Lovely post Rapunzale... Loved your lines : I am afraid to fulfill the duty of a wife ...she is failing as a mother... so aptly written.. Dilshad has surely failed today as a mother and for me a woman too... I mean what kind of a woman will forgive her infidel husband? Dilshad's love for Rashid maybe acceptable but being blind in love and overlooking everything else is not acceptable...

Originally posted by: adeeti10

Asma,

Just because slapping aka physical violence seems ok to a majority and is justifiable under certain circumstances, doesn't make it right.

By that logic, khap panchayats could say in the circumstances that a girl and boy from the same gotra marry, we can take action against them.

Years ago, sati was an acceptable practice to many. But that didn't make it right. Yes, I am preaching but the point I'm trying to make here is that a majority justifying something does not make it right.

Coming to the second para highlighted, the logic of "spare the rod, spoil the child" no longer works in today's situation. Increasingly our attitudes to parenting need to change.

That part highlighted bold is just one of the many reasons why Indian kids in Norway or elsewhere are taken from their parents and sent to child protection services. Physical violence begets violence. Why teach our kids wrong?

You don't have to agree with what we believe... That's fine. That's your view. But try to understand why a person is saying what they say. We totally get what you're saying. Heck, that's what mainstream society thinks. But just cos a few think differently, that doesn't make it wrong.

To add, even Rashid's venting his frustration by choking Razia... Doesn't work for me. Physical violence...

Whether its dadi being arm twisted by Razia, Rashid choking Razia, Asad slapping Zoya, Dilshad slapping Asad.. Asad pointing the gun at his father... I condemn it all.

Only dysfunctional families need violence or physical manifestations of anger to vent IMHO.

I know Rashid is estranged from Dilshad and family.

But Rashid and Razia's families are one unit today and Dilshad and her kids are another. So sorry, doesn't cut it for me.