Rishbala love?? What I see now.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I have seen the following phrase get thrown around a lot in this forum. Have a read:

Madhu is very strong woman in love with a deeply troubled man and she is the only person in the world who can help RK face his demons.

Keep scrolling down there is a reason for the gap

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These the italicized sentence is not own but, a direct quote from Leslie Morgan Steiner's TED talk on "Crazy Love", commonly known as relationship abuse. I just replaced the names with RK & Madhu's. Here is what she originally said:

[I thought of myself as] a very strong woman in love with a deeply troubled man and I was the only person in the world who could help Connor[the abuser] face his demons.

Feel free to disagree. However, do not resort to personal bashing/ cyber bullying. I hope this discussion will not amount to a fandom existential crisis.

Here is why I compared Madhu & Rishabh's relationship to classic abuse. Because, the elements are all present.

  1. Seduce her/ Charm her: We cannot deny it. He changed, even if it was all an act. He gave up drinking, partying, he believed in God. He was nicer to people around him. He made her feel like the center of his universe. He was nothing without his Madhubala. And, she truly believed the act. She considered herself the dominant partner in the relationship. She had control over the little things. For instance, RK's diet or his outfit of the day. She was changing him for the better.
  2. Isolate her: RK did not come out of the blue & ask Madhu to come away with me. It was a well executed maneuver. He presented his insecurities about the nature of love. Rishabh declared his affection for Madhubala as if she was at fault for making him fall for her. He guilted her into agreeing to follow him into their own little world where she would be segregated from the ones who loved her. It did not have to be physical isolation, the thought was enough to haunt Madhu. RK was leaving it all for her. She was the reason for him renouncing the glamour, there was no way she could refuse. We all believed it, didn't we? We thought he had become a better person for good.
  3. Threaten her: The love test is the biggest example of this. If you don't do as I say, you don't love me. RK had complete control over what she wore, where she went, etc. The list goes on. He threatened her with consequences every step of the way. You don't love me, being the most common one.
  4. Attack: The altar was the final step to ending his master plan. Leaving deep scars on her soul, he was ruthless.

Granted the events happened out of order, there is nothing missing here. This is abuse, like it or not. I do not want her to end up with Rishabh even though I can bet money on the fact that she will. If one makes the mistake of discarding this as something that does not happen in real life, one is mistaken. I watched on TV a woman trying to rationalize the fact that she was marrying her sister's convicted murderer because she was in LOVE. This is real! And, I am bothered, at the very least, to see the grandiose surrounding Rishbala reunion. Madhubala is a violent, unhealthy relationship.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree completely the show makers should really think about the message they are sending to ppl watching the show that this is suppose to be acceptable in society. (IT IS NOT) I want to discontinue with show but now I am addicted to it because of DD and Madhu. I want to see Madhu come out strong but I cant bare to watch some of the scenes right now because they really do disgust me.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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For a daily show writer, it's more about moving from one track to another and this show is showing the same process. The audience does not have the benefit of discussing, analysing and wondering and thus, everything is acceptable. Plus in fiction, everything is acceptable and should be seen as a piece of fiction only. Missing words and stunting the progress of the story are unacceptable, which this current track is trying to prove that they are acceptable, too.

I won't say, he is an abuser but if this indeed turns out to be a revenge drama, he comes across as a mean, cold-hearted, calculative and a manipulative man. The more one thinks, the more eerie it gets but it's a daily show and everything and anything is possible and I don't think, the writers want to paint him as an abuser.

A good post. 😊
Edited by an12345678 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice Post Jasleen
I am also very much shocked with the twist in the serial. Finally I am not able to understand anything.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Chill...I want to say this to u, because it is just a daily soap...There are so many show where man is shown as an abuser and brutal so why u break ur head on this...just enjoy and if cannot do not watch...no offence but taking a show so serious is not worthy u feel bad for urself...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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When something happens wrong in society we comment on whether it is right or wrong, why not reel life? Art is always made to say something about real life it is not like it doesnt serve any purpose besides to entertain. Actually who would find entertainment in watching women get abused? We come to this forum to analyze the show why cant we call wrong doers wrong doers, sinners sinners, and abusers abusers. Do expect someone to go around abusing a girl and all the viewers to go great this is just a dailysoap???
Edited by Gurtiluv - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Superbly put. It is refreshing to see something like this on a forum.
As for abuse, I agree absolutely. Am a physician and have seen plenty of similar cases.
All I can say is, this time around Madhu think twice or you'll get burned.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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that is right this is open forum so i told what i feel on ur post...and now also i tell u the same chill...no offence because i do not want bashing on this things...already forum is divided into VD and DD and DVDs...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: an12345678

For a daily show writer, it's more about moving from one track to another and this show is showing the same process. The audience does not have the benefit of discussing, analysing and wondering and thus, everything is acceptable. Plus in fiction, everything is acceptable and should be seen as a piece of fiction only. Missing words and stunting the progress of the story are unacceptable, which this current track is trying to prove that they are acceptable, too.


I won't say, he is an abuser but if this indeed turns out to be a revenge drama, he comes across as a mean, cold-hearted, calculative and a manipulative man. The more one thinks, the more eerie it gets but it's a daily show and everything and anything is possible and I don't think, the writers want to paint him as an abuser.

A good post. 😊

Thank you. You provide some very good points. Some of which I agree with and others not so much. About the daily show matter, what you say is true without a doubt. I do not deny that nor do expect the CV to be magically different from those who follow the industry's norm. I know it is going to be, how it is going to be, how it is going to be, how it is going to. There is no point in pleading otherwise. I only want to point out the signs of abuse.

See bold (for me, one equals the other) and here is where the diagreement lies. I think one does not have to be physically abusive to be tagged as an abuser. RK is a psychological abuser.
Edited by iiDona - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

When something happens wrong in society we comment on whether it is right or wrong, why not reel life? Art is always made to say something about real life it is not like it doesnt serve any purpose besides to entertain. Actually who would find entertainment in watching women get abused? We come to this forum to analyze the show why cant we call wrong doers wrong doers, sinners sinners, and abusers abusers. Do expect someone to go around abusing a girl and all the viewers to go great this is just a dailysoap???


The majority in India do find entertainment in Saas-Bahu shows, where the bahu is the punching bag. Yes, our reactions will always be based on what we think is morally right and wrong. 😊

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