Is Domestic Violence this casual in India? - Page 2

Originally posted by: iqbal-pallavi

I understand why she isn't leaving the house, she doesn't want to leave Dilshad in this situation - she's ready to forego her self-respect for a women who treated her like a child, who loved her and who she thinks of as a mother.

But I am upset at the fact that she seems to have forgiven and forgotten the fact that he did slap her. I watched the SBS segment and I was quite appalled. For a strong willed girl who knows her right I don't think she reacted accordingly, and like you mentioned she is from US and American girls have no qualms in fighting for their right, but I'm still holding on to the hope that she will speak up and she will put her point across and that she will get through Asad's hard head.

Also if India is like that I am so glad that I don't live there, I am proud to be a British girl! at least here we don't get oppressed, we have rights to speak up and our voice is heard.

I know that she is staying back because of Dishad and Najma...but I wished she could stand by them from staying outside. It's just hard for me to digest the fact that she been such a progressive and independent woman has looked past this violence.

Originally posted by: TheBoss

Yes unfortunately it does plague our society. Please check here a recent post of mine, I wrote it a sarcastic way.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/debate-mansion/3413862/is-it-ok-to-be-a-wife-beater

I will definitely read it ...I hope the plague is cleared soon for the sake of women.

U guys are reading to much into this. Ok ya slapping is wrong but if you put urself in a place of a guy who just brought his mother to the hospital bleeding in his arm. A guy that has noone but his ummi. His ummi is his father and best friend and she just got shot cuz of what he thinks is zoyas fault. I'm sure Zoya would have done the same or any normal person would have reacted that way.

I'm a silent reader for quite a long time. I like the characters of Asad and Zoya both since beginning.

Originally posted by: shaz2009

I am also really dissapointed in how Zoya's character is shaping up,from the once strong,corageous young woman who was not afraid stand up for her rights and the justice of other's has been reduced to this stereotype heroine that only knows hot to put up with opression,cry in silence and keep mum in the name of love...nothing new in in all and here I was thinking that this show was going to be breakthrough in breaking this never ending cycle in giving out a strong social message to the audience that violence doesn't pay,a stand should be taken...I seriously couldn't have been more wrong!

@Rapunzel:

Originally posted by: shaz2009

Hi Prianka my dear...word to everything you've said and with you all the way on this!

You already know that I too work with women who suffer at the hands of such heionous crimes and at most times these women are scared to speak out and take a stand...hence giving into domestic violence,marital rape and all sorts in the name of culture and not wanting to be judged by society and all this is happnening in not just India but also in developed first world countries like England too.I have been born and brought up in London but I must also say that like yourself, here we also have the priviledge of the 999 emergency services to be at our service when required and yes they will listen and try to give us the very highest from of help possible and no the police wont try sweep things under the carpet at the behest of minister's or famous celebrities...money ahs no room to do the talikng here as we have a secure law system which has to abide by the rules or there are connsequences to be followed but in India such heinous crimes get put on the back burmer by the law itself or an intentional blind yes is turned in justice prevailing.

What really shocks me is when women themselves who would try give justifications on these heinous crimes and shamelessly go on to put another women under the limelight of humiliation and abuse.Do such women have no hearts or feelings towards their fellow women ?

Do they not feel the pain of another woman and not for once try to imagine themselves or their female family members in the place of those women and think for once how they would feel?

This is exactly the display of inhumanity and insensituvity we were getting on the forum yesterday regarding that slap, that a mockery was being made out of a woman's sentiments...glorifying manhandling as love...purely getting a high and a kick out of it all and even going as far as to say that the female lead deserved it!So called sick humour was being introduced as viewpoints and just simply a big laugh and joke were being made of the whole thing.I was simply shocked at this horrendous display from fellow woman who are quite educated and young too,that too on such a platfrom as India forums.It really made me shudder to think what the future of these young women will be like!

Btw...great post and consider myself lucky to have such a courageous woman like yourself as my friend!

Women world over really need to unite and work together on fighting this brutality and opression towards all woman kind.All froms of physical violence should be put an end to!

hi shazie...I am proud to be your friend too and you are very courageous yourself...what I am shocked about is the way ppl are defending the slap and many doesn't see this as violence...I guess for them a woman has to get raped or battered in such a way that she is hospitalized to be called as violence. Can you imagine how these ppl think? Don't be shocked at the horrendous display of fellow members Shaz...just ignore such threads or remarks... It's really hard to explain anything to anyone with regressive mind sets or ppl who think violence is a part of passion.

Originally posted by: shaz2009

I am also really dissapointed in how Zoya's character is shaping up,from the once strong,corageous young woman who was not afraid stand up for her rights and the justice of other's has been reduced to this stereotype heroine that only knows hot to put up with opression,cry in silence and keep mum in the name of love...nothing new in in all and here I was thinking that this show was going to be breakthrough in breaking this never ending cycle in giving out a strong social message to the audience that violence doesn't pay,a stand should be taken...I seriously couldn't have been more wrong!

this is Gul's signature of every female character...it's pathetic and very soon this is going to fall flat because the youth of India is changing and I hope the mindset of the trp viewers are changing too.

Originally posted by: shaz2009

@ChicksoupFirst of let me tell you that I am not the one that is going onto assasinate the character's,Gul is doing a pretty goood job of that herself.I initially really liked and was intrigued by the Character of Asad untill that epsiode where he held her by the neck,but I still put it aside and gave his character a chance but yesterday that slap ansd you know it was not just a little slap,that was more a violent back hander in which Asad had no mercy along with that beastly,inhumane look he had to give...coolly,camly walking off without a look...that is not right in my books!Being angry and hurt does not give anyone the right to go around slapping and hitting people in order to vent out...it is not deemed fit in any way or else we'd have people world over just going around slapping and hitting people in afit of rage.Asad has been invibed with an good upbringing and culture by Dilshad who single handedly rised her two kids being asingle mum...so on seeing all that Asad shoud have been shown to raect in another way to calm his rage otehr than resorting to venting out his phisical aggression on a woman.God has given him amouth,he could have used it! A mouth is also a good weapon when in fit of rage.I never claimed that Zoya is in love but merely stated my views on a what a stereotypical heroine is made to do ansd it wont be long that Zoya's charcter will be taking that route...already she is keeping mum as she feels guilty of Dilsahd's situation which is understandable on thats ense but she does need to take a stand and leave the Khan household atleast when Dilshad gets better and yes she is a selfless person who wants to see good and happiness sof other's...she was shown praying...very touching scene and love it...soemthing which I was expecting at the very least from her character so thanks to Four Lions for keeping that part of Zoya's characetr intact.No I do not support Zoya slapping Asad adn have not stated that anywhere...so dnt go making accusations or trying to put words in my mouth.I do not support violence of any shape or form be it towards a man,women,child,elderly person or even an animal...violence is violence and a stand should be taken against it.I am not going to go and gloriry and justify violence of any sort in the mane of love and fan girl mode...no matter how much I like characecter as to em it is not morally right...make a mockery of anyone's sentiments and that wa sexactly what the majority of thw female members on this forum were doing...making likght of the slap,laughing and joking ,getting high and getting turned on by those. so called masculinity shown in the from of physical violence,My point is valid so dnt you go telling me it's not and the point of these so called fan girls are.The male lead slaps the female lead...a woman...I dnt agree! So my point is valid!

I may need to go cool myself off but you dear, should really go and have a long hard think on, whether you being true to yourself and whether you have a conscience at all!

Shaz dear...your point is absolutely valid...I really don't know how to explain anything to a person who thinks that slapping is not part of violence...I have no idea how they categorize Violence for that matter...rape...marital rape...beating a women in such a way that she has to be in the hospital...scarring a woman for life...So dear Shaz...as your friend I am suggesting you ...refrain yourself into any discussions which you find derogatory as a woman to even discuss... Don't discuss with ppl who defends perpetrators like Asad and his act. Shazie you have the right like everyone else to voice your opinion...

Please post in the new sticky which the DT has created so that all the slap discussions stay in one place.