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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am not saying that Asad is innocent and I am not saying that Zoya is innocent. All I am saying is that Asad has no idea what he has just done. He doesn't realize that he just slapped Zoya. If you look at the expressions, you will see that Asad was physically there but his mind was somewhere else. All he heard and saw was the flashbacks to the earlier scene.

(This I think sounds like I am justifying the slap- I am not, just clearing the air again).
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: fee-fee

I am not saying that Asad is innocent and I am not saying that Zoya is innocent. All I am saying is that Asad has no idea what he has just done. He doesn't realize that he just slapped Zoya. If you look at the expressions, you will see that Asad was physically there but his mind was somewhere else. All he heard and saw was the flashbacks to the earlier scene.


(This I think sounds like I am justifying the slap- I am not, just clearing the air again).


If the writers take this stance, then Asad better be licking the soles of Zoya's shoes in an effort to apologize.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: blueflames

violence is a big no for me,
but this slap is nothing more than an act of impulsive rage, Rage that blinds the person, rage that conquers the heart n action n break anything which come in their way,

zoya had a bad timing today when she came to console him. she should have known that Mr. Khan avoided looking at her in corridor, she must have understood that he was upset n angry with her. she must have understood not all welcome a shoulder to cry on.


Okay so you are trying to justify asad saying he was just angry and zoya shouldn't have interrupted him at that time because he was blind with rage. He could be angry because that's his mother who he is hearing is on her death bed. So I can understand asad was blind with rage. BUT he is still completely wrong. There are thousands of people who get beat and things much worse when they face a person that is mad. If asad did something other than slap her would you have justified him the same way? The main point is that asad's rage does NOT give him any right to lay a hand on another human body. No matter who he or she is.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tasmila487


Okay so you are trying to justify asad saying he was just angry and zoya shouldn't have interrupted him at that time because he was blind with rage. He could be angry because that's his mother who he is hearing is on her death bed. So I can understand asad was blind with rage. BUT he is still completely wrong. There are thousands of people who get beat and things much worse when they face a person that is mad. If asad did something other than slap her would you have justified him the same way? The main point is that asad's rage does NOT give him any right to lay a hand on another human body. No matter who he or she is.


we all know Asad, he reacts before he listens to zoya, the only person for whom he has no tolerance. and i guesss Asad is pretty ignorant of the fact that zoya is NOT at fault, he doesnt know she had done the way he ordered her. he doesnt know his own mother bought maryam back home via front door. so right now he thinks Zoya is the culprit. the only thing he could think abt was zoya's supposed lie "that she had sent maryam away". he takes her to a liar too.

HIs ignorance will bring his fall from the high pedestal of a higher being. n i think that's how a drama progress, with each character's fall n rise.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: blueflames

violence is a big no for me,
but this slap is nothing more than an act of impulsive rage, Rage that blinds the person, rage that conquers the heart n action n break anything which come in their way,

zoya had a bad timing today when she came to console him. she should have known that Mr. Khan avoided looking at her in corridor, she must have understood that he was upset n angry with her. she must have understood not all welcome a shoulder to cry on.


Who comes to say sorry to a person, who's mother is dying?
Who comes to "comfort or whatever" to a person, whose anger you are accustomed with?
Didnt Zoya herself tell Mariyam "Tum unka gussa nahi janti hoo?"

2nd point : Why are we getting soo much hyped? Damm its just a slap. Slap when? When your mother is dying.Your mom is dying cause of the guest at your home who just didn't know how to behave herself. COME ON ITS YOUR MOTHER. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO EVEN CARE TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHEN ALL YOU KNOW IS THAT YOUR MOTHER IS GOONA DIE?

Khuda na Khasta.
did you guys ever get the feeling? soory i am getting personal, but i did, i felt and dont ask me the rest. but all it feels like is A guilt that illegitimates your very own existence.

what do you think you should have done if you where in Asad's place? Tell me?



Now tell me what would Zoya do if it was Zoya's Appie in Dilshad's place?
That would have been justifiable? YES IT WOULD BE cause we get to see the Heroine hit the HERO not the hero doing as such.
She approached him when he was a mental breakdown and she was the cause of it as he STILL DOESNT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. HE WAS PUSHED INTO AN EDGE. if Zoya had already told him that Mariyam was back. Maybe all this didnt happen.
Why zoya went to fight with that gun man. She could have said Chill maan let me call the police. till then lets gossip. So who cares if you shoot my phoophi! No violence allowed right?

Like i said before, innumerous times, When Reelistic shows gets so Realistic mixed reactions are bound to be achieved. and this is the beauty of QH, a constant force makes you LOVE as well as HATE all the characters, all the time.Also the MAIN REASON WHY DILSHAD CANT DIE she has to clear this mess .

Like in Shakespeare's plays, we know the whole scenario, but the characters dont. they have misunderstanding. they are deliberately created. We should rather wait and watch how this whole thing clears up.

And at the end of the day no matter what our LOVE for KSG will never be less so yeah.


Moreover, this whole thing is just a way to start the LOVE TRACK nothing else more.
Cause Asad is GUILTY of his actions, Zoya is ATTRACTED to Asad.
There's NO LOVE.

Hence much needed Thappad.

I rest my case.

by the way are WE NOT over reacting more than Zoya must have done? :P
Edited by MisHumptyDumpty - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty


Who comes to say sorry to a person, who's mother is dying?
Who comes to "comfort or whatever" to a person, whose anger you are accustomed with?
Didnt Zoya herself tell Mariyam "Tum unka gussa nahi janti hoo?"

2nd point : Why are we getting soo much hyped? Damm its just a slap. Slap when? When your mother is dying.Your mom is dying cause of the guest at your home who just didn't know how to behave herself. COME ON ITS YOUR MOTHER. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO EVEN CARE TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHEN ALL YOU KNOW IS THAT YOUR MOTHER IS GOONA DIE?

Khuda na Khasta.
did you guys ever get the feeling? soory i am getting personal, but i did, i felt and dont ask me the rest. but all it feels like is A guilt that illegitimates your very own existence.

what do you think you should have done if you where in Asad's place? Tell me?



Now tell me what would Zoya do if it was Zoya's Appie in Dilshad's place?
That would have been justifiable? YES IT WOULD BE cause we get to see the Heroine hit the HERO not the hero doing as such.
She approached him when he was a mental breakdown and she was the cause of it as he STILL DOESNT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. HE WAS PUSHED INTO AN EDGE. if Zoya had already told him that Mariyam was back. Maybe all this didnt happen.
Why zoya went to fight with that gun man. She could have said Chill maan let me call the police. till then lets gossip. So who cares if you shoot my phoophi! No violence allowed right?

Like i said before, innumerous times, When Reelistic shows gets so Realistic mixed reactions are bound to be achieved. and this is the beauty of QH, a constant force makes you LOVE as well as HATE all the characters, all the time.Also the MAIN REASON WHY DILSHAD CANT DIE she has to clear this mess .

Like in Shakespeare's plays, we know the whole scenario, but the characters dont. they have misunderstanding. they are deliberately created. We should rather wait and watch how this whole thing clears up.

And at the end of the day no matter what our LOVE for KSG will never be less so yeah.


Moreover, this whole thing is just a way to start the LOVE TRACK nothing else more.
Cause Asad is GUILTY of his actions, Zoya is ATTRACTED to Asad.
There's NO LOVE.

Hence much needed Thappad.

I rest my case.

by the way are WE NOT over reacting more than Zoya must have done? :P


I am sorry but i find that you are pushing a viewpoint here that is very dangerous. There is nothing wrong in coming to someone and comforting them. This slap was completely unjustified and there is nothing in this post that makes it acceptable. And this is not about supporting KSG or not supporting him, this is about whether this behavior is acceptable for a character and it is not. Love does not grow out of violence -romanticizing violence is something we have to stop. There are more creative ways of starting a romance and a slap on the face is not one of them.

Are you saying that she has to be slapped into loving him? I sincerely sincerely hope not.

I would not compare this to a Shakespearean play by the way.
Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty


Who comes to say sorry to a person, who's mother is dying?
Who comes to "comfort or whatever" to a person, whose anger you are accustomed with?
Didnt Zoya herself tell Mariyam "Tum unka gussa nahi janti hoo?"

2nd point : Why are we getting soo much hyped? Damm its just a slap. Slap when? When your mother is dying.Your mom is dying cause of the guest at your home who just didn't know how to behave herself. COME ON ITS YOUR MOTHER. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO EVEN CARE TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHEN ALL YOU KNOW IS THAT YOUR MOTHER IS GOONA DIE?

Khuda na Khasta.
did you guys ever get the feeling? soory i am getting personal, but i did, i felt and dont ask me the rest. but all it feels like is A guilt that illegitimates your very own existence.

what do you think you should have done if you where in Asad's place? Tell me?



Now tell me what would Zoya do if it was Zoya's Appie in Dilshad's place?
That would have been justifiable? YES IT WOULD BE cause we get to see the Heroine hit the HERO not the hero doing as such.
She approached him when he was a mental breakdown and she was the cause of it as he STILL DOESNT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. HE WAS PUSHED INTO AN EDGE. if Zoya had already told him that Mariyam was back. Maybe all this didnt happen.
Why zoya went to fight with that gun man. She could have said Chill maan let me call the police. till then lets gossip. So who cares if you shoot my phoophi! No violence allowed right?

Like i said before, innumerous times, When Reelistic shows gets so Realistic mixed reactions are bound to be achieved. and this is the beauty of QH, a constant force makes you LOVE as well as HATE all the characters, all the time.Also the MAIN REASON WHY DILSHAD CANT DIE she has to clear this mess .

Like in Shakespeare's plays, we know the whole scenario, but the characters dont. they have misunderstanding. they are deliberately created. We should rather wait and watch how this whole thing clears up.

And at the end of the day no matter what our LOVE for KSG will never be less so yeah.


Moreover, this whole thing is just a way to start the LOVE TRACK nothing else more.
Cause Asad is GUILTY of his actions, Zoya is ATTRACTED to Asad.
There's NO LOVE.

Hence much needed Thappad.

I rest my case.

by the way are WE NOT over reacting more than Zoya must have done? :P

i guess you missed my earlier post
" Asad, he reacts before he listens to zoya, the only person for whom he has no tolerance. and i guesss Asad is pretty ignorant of the fact that zoya is NOT at fault, he doesnt know she had done the way he ordered her. he doesnt know his own mother bought maryam back home via front door. so right now he thinks Zoya is the culprit. the only thing he could think abt was zoya's supposed lie "that she had sent maryam away". he takes her to be a liar too.
Asad's ignorance will bring his fall from the high pedestal of a higher being. n i think that's how a drama progress, with each character's fall n rise."

and come on lets not compare it to Shakespeare πŸ˜†

and it aint the way to start a steady relation, its just an action committed in spur of moment. it will bring ego, sympathy, anger, guilt,and hurt. but i dont see love in it anywhere YET.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: blueflames

i guess you missed my earlier post
" Asad, he reacts before he listens to zoya, the only person for whom he has no tolerance. and i guesss Asad is pretty ignorant of the fact that zoya is NOT at fault, he doesnt know she had done the way he ordered her. he doesnt know his own mother bought maryam back home via front door. so right now he thinks Zoya is the culprit. the only thing he could think abt was zoya's supposed lie "that she had sent maryam away". he takes her to be a liar too.
Asad's ignorance will bring his fall from the high pedestal of a higher being. n i think that's how a drama progress, with each character's fall n rise."

and come on lets not compare it to Shakespeare πŸ˜†

and it aint the way to start a steady relation, its just an action committed in spur of moment. it will bring ego, sympathy, anger, guilt,and hurt. but i dont see love in it anywhere YET.


there is indeed no love, thats why they did this so that they can put the realization track leading to the love track.
rest i have already ended my case, last night πŸ˜† πŸ˜ƒ

Can we focus on whats gonna happen today? Cause i am pretty confused, Zoya gets to meet Rashid on wed, so today what might happen today? Dose of Bromance? or Father-Son confrontation or Razia household?

What so ever it is, that should be the main topic of discussion now dont you think? πŸ˜‰

lame attempt to PUT A STOP TO ALL THESE. πŸ˜• πŸ˜ƒ


NO OFFENCES MADE.
i love all of you.πŸ€—
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Posted: 12 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty


there is indeed no love, thats why they did this so that they can put the realization track leading to the love track.
rest i have already ended my case, last night πŸ˜† πŸ˜ƒ

Can we focus on whats gonna happen today? Cause i am pretty confused, Zoya gets to meet Rashid on wed, so today what might happen today? Dose of Bromance? or Father-Son confrontation or Razia household?

What so ever it is, that should be the main topic of discussion now dont you think? πŸ˜‰

lame attempt to PUT A STOP TO ALL THESE. πŸ˜• πŸ˜ƒ


NO OFFENCES MADE.
i love all of you.πŸ€—


πŸ€—πŸ€—
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Fabulous post...I agree cmpltely !!

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