Zoya deserves respect and love in her life... - Page 7

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

hi bheegi...I get your point...but I am still not convinced it was anything but an act of humanity...ofcourse yash and Aarti were there and there reaction wasn't that strong because they are strangers to Zoya...and Asad isn't a stranger...and on top of that he was in tremendous guilt...he was immersed in guilt and I think that is the ole reason he hugged her.

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

thanks for commenting...but words are very powerful and once said ...it imprints in your mind. I work with women in a shelter and I see their physical scars everyday...you know the important fact is that when they talk to me they speak about the hurtful things their husbands and partners have said to them...they hardly talk about physical abuse. Verbally abusing someone s extremely bad...it's just that 4lions make their heroines immuned to it...they don't realize that they are based or insulted...ms Gul presumably believes that the men has the liberty to say or do anything because they are passionately in love and the women should be grateful .

Asad makes an invinsible wall around him.
He is not comfortable with anyone who wants to break the wall.
Zoya's behaviour and thinking are breaking the wall slowly which asad don't like it.
He did not like the fact suddenly an girl like zoya affecting him so much.
I think zoya is the first person in asad's life who despite not being a familly member of asad makes an huge impact in his life.

Who are you suggesting ayan with zoya.
pleas consider those facts.

1.ayaan is more kiddish in behaviour than zoya.
2.he is too much depended on asad.
3.ayaan has careless attitude.
4.ayaan fails to emarge as a strong character.
5.love is not only saying "i love you".
it is also like a vow stay with your love ones till last breath.

Love is like never bow down to any pressure,love is like never run away when your beloved in trouble.
love also taught us to enjoy responsibility for each other.

It was clear that zoya's father was irresponsible person.
zoya suffer a lot for this.

ayaan is no way a responsible guy and running away from responsibility.
Can you say ayaan is ready to take responsibility of relationship yet.
Can ayaan become strong enough to save any loved one from outside attack.

i think the answer is negative.
i think zoya will suffer like a hell if she go for a relationship with a irresponsible guy.
she would take lot of time to come over it.

with ayaan zoya have to face evil razia,who won't like zoya take humira place for ayaan and razia can go any low for revange.
mamujan is more traditional than asad and more conserative i think and zoya won't be tolerated by mamujan at all.
humira can turn negative if zoya with ayaan.
rashid is useless and coward infront of mamujan and razia.
shrien can be easily manupulated.

so can ayaan has strength to save zoya from those attitude.

on the other hand with asad zoya will get a mother and sister in form of dilshad and nazma.

and last point be frank rishab sinha is not a trp puller and he did not impress much if cv goes with ayan zoya than trp can see a big damage,
you will agree that ksg is the biggest trp puller of qh if his character get sidlined and asad remain alone than trp can see a big decline.

and after that even the cv thought to go back with asya it may proves too late and results of the end just like dmg.

and if zoya ayan happens another permanent female character may enter into asad life.
and as asad aka ksg is the biggest star of qh the new female character oposite of asad may over shadow zoya's character.
zoya may reduced as 2nd female character in qh.
unlike other show in qh it is male lead asad who is the centeral character.

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

hi Ash...nice to see your comment...I have been very busy with work and family right after the New Years...hopefully things are settling down and I will have some time in the forum. Your analysis has got me thinking...he might be doing that but ash I still think that he is not in love yet...his emotions in mangalpur was out of humanity and primarily out of guilt for not trusting her. I cannot visualize that as love yet. What do you think?

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

hi bee...I have no problem in him fighting with his feelings ...it actually quite normal for a person like Asad...all I am asking is a little respect and consideration...he doesn't have to do much...he just needs to stop saying hurtful things to her ...he can silently ignore her or just politely ask her to stay away from him. Do I make sense?

Hi Rupunzale,
You asking for him to have respect and consideration isn't wrong at all. But for him, if he does that, then he gets sucked in into something he doesn't want to. He is fighting his heart and creating an invisible wall where he can sit within its boundaries and not get out so that he is not investing his emotions. Respect, consideration everything is an extension of basic "like". If there is no care/like, then respect, consideration etc wouldn't come. He is burying that care/like bcos of what he had seen in his childhood. He thinks that if he gives-an-inch-then-he-is-gone-a-mile and that is what he wants to curb. In addition, its not like he is not capable of respecting or being civil, he very well is, just that he is scared that he will be heartbroken. He is just protecting himself by being mean to her, which is what his experience has taught him from his childhood.

Definitely he can silently ignore her, but is she giving him that option? Even after she hears what he was saying to his mom, she is not the one sitting in her room cursing or brooding, instead, she goes to say sorry, say thank u, to apply balm etc etc. And the moment he see her, all his normalcy is outta-window. LOL. 😆He wants to talk in all civility, but their conversation always veers off on a tangent as he says something nasty to her, or she misunderstand something he has said.

Anyway, Hope he makes peace with his feelings. That would happen probably when she is gone away from him. 😃

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

hi Alia...thanks for commenting and a your appreciation about my work...yes, in the real world real women has numerous problems and its very dreadful and frightening out there.

Welcome to the forum dear...similar to you I don't watch a show for a particular actor but if I like a character ...I try to watch it thereafter. QH is my second Indian serial...and coincidently my first serial IPkknd was from the same PH 4lions. Now the producer of 4lions is Ms Khan ...her inspiration is Mill & boons heroes and accordingly her heroes have similar qualities...her portrayal of love is aggressive...ruthless and to a point abusive...the hero of the serial openly manhandles the woman who he is ought to be deeply in love with and ms Gul describes that as passionate and unconditional love. The women in her serial is insulted and demeaned to a point it becomes a case of domestic violence but Ms Gul still thinks that a man has the right to treat a woman that way because he is deeply in love with her...the thought process is very primitive for me. I started watching the previous show of 4lions because the female character had spunk and was beautifully played by Miss irani. I started watching QH because I wanted to see a love story in a Muslim backdrop but I am very disappointed with the repeat portrayal of an aggressive and insensitive hero...and it's really not a Muslim story at all except the names really...? I have couple of good Muslim friends and honestly their families are no way near to the portrayal in QH. QH is full of negative characters and its getting to me...it's not a feel good serial...but I will give it a try only because of Surbhi ...because I really like Zoya.

Priyanka

Originally posted by: Aalia_A

Hey Priyanka, thank you for taking the time and patience to explain to me the workings of 4Lions. I was apprehensive you would misunderstand my post as did a few already but thank you for understanding that my questions were motivated by pure curiousity and not any desire to condemn or make judgements =)

Now, at the bold part... Jeez that is seriously whacked out! That kinda mentality is primitive to the hilt, but I suppose I'm talking from a Western mentality here and the show maybe targetting Indian sensibilities and depictions of love. That is why such fictional portrayals work (I'm only trying to be open-minded here)... But personally my blood boils reading that, and the day Asad even toes that line - I'm out!

I am new so I don't even know the actors, I started watching it for the concept (but salam kehne se and urdu lafz istamal karne se koi serial Muslim nahi ho jaata) - but I have taken a liking to Zoya... I'm not looking forward to the Asad-Zoya equation now. Nor any bouncing of Zoya between Asad and Ayaan. All that interests me is the mystery of Zoya's parentage and of knowing why Rashid is the wuss that he now is.Still that is not enough to keep me hooked onto the show. As you say, it is not a feel-good serial and I on principle will not watch misogyny, abuse and female-centred violence in the name of entertainment. Once QH devolves completely into that, I will bid adieu to my first and last Indian telly serial =)

And trust me, Gul Khan is doing a disservice to Muslim families everywhere by painting such a twisted fictional picture. I know many Muslim viewers here who have stopped watching QH because of this.This sort of prime-time exposure with negative stereotypes littered about is the last thing the most-misunderstood religion in the world needs.

I completely understand about the way you feel about the depiction of sensibility in Indian serials...the whole concept is new to me too...I cannot relate to such primitive thoughts and action specially the portrayal of male chauvinism. I did stop watching it for the last month due to excessive family drama and negativity...it's really unhealthy. But I came back to watch it because just like you I am interested in Zoya. Honestly I am too not interested in the lovestory...i am really tired of this constant repetition of bickering and arguing between then...gosh...are they high school kids? I am interested to see the progression in Zoya's character...but 4lions have a history of deteriorating the women characters...they are initially strong, confident and inspiring but gradually you simply cannot recognize them anymore.

Alia...please keep in touch...and you are always welcome to comment in my threads and please don't refrain yourself in expressing your thoughts...you have every right to express and share your opinions...

I am in CA ...where are you located?

^^ Aww thank you Priyanka, I'm sure I will 😳 It is always nice to find kindred souls more so because I tend to be in the minority group every single time. I swear that is not intentional 😆 I just can't be someone who turns and looks the other way giving a free pass just because it is fictional and entertainment. QH is a social drama anyways and I do not think a little bit of intellectualising and the asking of hard questions will go amiss.