Episode 163 Discussion: 7th Jan 2013

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Episode 163 Discussion: 7th Jan 2013


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

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  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
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  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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Episode 163 Discussion - EOD Summary

Life mein Twist isliye Kahani mein Twirl

That's Balraj's gameplan for MB'Verse in coming days. The episode was not much except
  1. Family Picture Taking and Exhibition to Balraj
  2. Radha (The Gatekeeper) being yet again the spokeswoman to advise RK and Madhu to complete their saat phere along with Padmini and Shamsher.
  3. Balraj vengeance unleashed.
  4. What takes the cake is Balraj's dialogues. 👏
  5. Balraj's mother has died and his fortune has dwindled to 3 crores from 300 crores and he holds Madhubala his daughter as responsible and vows to kill her and his wife Padmini on the day Padmini is getting married to Shamsher.

Episode Reviews:
Page 1 - nehakariba, MarathiMulgi, leela9, Soundarya, Gurtiluv. zoya_naziya
Page 2 - tanu07, SD, apolloartemis, Ananya05
Page 4 - dramacrazy12
Page 5 -SD
Page 7 - Kt25, SD

Saath pheron waali shaadi and understanding of Madhu's love for RK
Page 4 - SD, dramacrazy12, MarathiMulgi, apolloartemis
Page 5 - SD, Ananya, Zorica

Pictorial commentary
Zorica -
Page 2 and 3 - four poster commentaries for today's episode.
Page 7 - over the maturity of thought needed for a relationship to become successful

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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awesome epi
balrajs comic behavior and him being so despo to do a film with rk and above all such a tharkey person calling trishna beti was so confusing.
but today balraj the real psycho, brutal, ruthless , cruel. balraj is back.
the dinning scene was good. no words needed between rishbala that was so cute how rk understands his biwi and fulfill her unsaid words too.
radhaji wants rishbala to take 7 pehere aww rk was blushing hehehe

now it will be interesting to see what balraj will do with trishna. i guess he cannot kill her because he has lost his fortune, and he had already signed a contract with rk. and rk want to do film with trishna only will he be able to see trishna doing a film, romancing some random guy.
Edited by nehakariba - 12 years ago
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Kitna pyara aur khush lag raha hai aaj yeh parivar!! Chashme Baddoor!!!

Let's celebrate the fact that RK ko ek naya parivar mil gaya hai. Jo uski zindagi mein kami thi woh aaj puri ho gayi hai. We are all happy for you RK!!! You have a family and love of your life(aka Madhu!!). Your life i now complete!!! Don't go creating any more waves!! Just enjoy this bliss!!! Because you see, later on, we don't want to hear you sing "Tasveer banata hu tasveer nahin banti" 😃

It is very heartwarming to see how RK has made a place for himself in the Malik parivar and that parivar has also welcomed him with open arms. RK has found the family that was missing from his life after his father's untimely death. Let's hope that now we get to see more of Rishabh trying to sneak out of RK.

Is Radha reading my mind or what? I had said the exact same thing in my last post about RK-Madhu 7 phera pure karna, hah!! Am glad to see that RK pulled out both their chairs at the dinner table. He is coming around Madhu, slowly but surely. I just hope Radha does not rock the boat by being too hasty in reclaiming his affection.

Ballu aaj ke episode per chha gaya. Muwwaahh!!!!
Kaise tilmila raha tha seeing Trishna, Padmini and Madhu one after the other. He is now blind with rage ki bis baras pehle usko Padmini ne kaise ullu banaya. I think he is more angry by this deception rather than seeing them actually alive. Abhi to bas revenge ki aag mein aise jal raha hai jaise there is no tomorrow. Unfortunately his ammaji (his mother?) is no more alive to guide him in his koot karasthan. He will have to plan this revenge all by himself.
A slight gotcha in his dialogue though - When the wife dies before husband, husband becomes "Vidhur" and not "Vidhawa".

Tasveer ek aise parivar ki jo ane wali khushi ki aahat se khush ho raha hain. Us parivar ke kisi bhi sadasya ko aane wale tufan ki halki si bhi khabar nahi. It is very interesting to note that RK who directed Malik parivar ki zindagiya (starting with Madhu), has brought them together and will now inadvertantly be responsible for inviting this evil named Ballu into the same parivar which will visit them after a gap of 20 years. Dekhna yeh hai ki is aane wale tufan mein kiske pair jamin per rah jahe hai aur kon bah jaha hai.

Lagta hai Padmini ki shadi badi dhamakedar hone wali hai...

Precap - RK has taken Madhu at night to reveal to her the plot of their new house. How nice!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I actually found the ep *almost* boring.😲😕 Maybe because of excessive expectations?

Was not impressed to the extent I had counted on being with Balraj's return to overt villainy. Thought he'd be striding the screenpresence scale like a charismatic colossus.😃 He didn't - not quite.

The intensity, the good acting, the terrific dialogues were *all* in place.⭐️ And yet, the blaze was not quite all I've been anticipating for ages.

Maybe a bit more time to get into character will have Raj Zutshi recapturing that magnificent vibe he created in his previous time on MEIEJ.😊

But one thing is for damn sure.

Balraj is not even a whit of replacement - even temporary - for RK and Madhu.

He was enough *before* the series brought DVD together on screen.

And now, he can complement them. He can't compensate for either one of them, and most definitely not both.

One does understand that the CVs have to manage without one lead (the safety net of VD's apparently plenty of banked scenes irregardless), but the other lead is still very much there.

And having Balraj rave about Madhu for much of the ep did not compensate for Madhu's only presence for a lengthy duration being via mention and photograph.

Bizarre that all the RK-Radha reconciliation scenes are happening in the absence of the other three Bhatias.😕 So the viewers should forget for now that those three are a very integral and valued part of Radha's life.🤢

Sincerely hoping that whatever happens of Balraj's plan to murder, Madhu's and RK's 7-ferey wedding gets done soon.😳

Do not want the stardom track commencing with Madhu an aadhhi-adhhoori wife to distract from the stardom and probable Pygmalion-Galatea track.

Let the wedding get done, the conjugal relationship firmly established, and then the focus properly on Madhu becoming a star.😊
Leaving the marriage incomplete right now raises the spectre of leaving the stardom track halfbaked midway to skip back and forth.😕

Let each track get through to its point, and *then* segue to join into the next track.😃

Been waiting for the romance and stardom tracks, and would really like to be able to enjoy each in full.😳

The romance will be an integral part throughout😳, but the stardom track needs to have the focus at least for a while (with the romance serving as backdrop rather than battling out for track primacy).😊
And an incomplete wedding is just going to leave the couple's focus - individually and together - exasperatingly splintered.😕
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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First things first...there's no chance to miss RK at all😊. Looks like CV's have planned one little scene for each day and shot it almost date wise. Tomorrow of course is a big scene ;-)

COntinuing with saturday's episode, Balraj sees his whole family alive and well. RK also belongs to this family,Balraj sees RK's pretty wife come down the stairs and she turns out to be Madhubala his own daughter, the cause for his dwindling fortunes...Vinashbala😆.
Madhu senses some presence outside the gate and starts walking towards it, maybe she senses the hatred directed towards her, but Balraj walks away.
RK and Madhu have a sweet moment at the chawl, they come home to find Radha...but of course waiting at the entrance. This time, RK tells her that malik and padmini have agreed to marry. RK sits down to dinner in his superstar arrogant style, madhu gently goads him to pull out a chair for her, and then for his mom. He also asks his mom sit with them. Radha suggests that RK and madhu should also solemnise their wedding on paddy and Malik's wedding day. RK and Madhu blush at the thought.
Am not too comfortable with RK getting so comfortable so soon with Radha. All this is ok while Kukuji is not around, we will have another round of drama when he returns from wherever and sees this happy family, he will not like it. His policy has always been to 'divide and rule over Radha'.

Balraj's breakdown -
BSC is shocked that his whole family is alive and to top it padmini, his wife and Chaudhrain is planning to get married to pehelwan or Malik! He has a conversation with his mother's ashes (!!), and tells her that his daughter Madhubala is alive, he attributes his dwindling status over the past so many years to the fact that this girl is in fact alive. Did I sense a mild father's pride that his daughter is so pretty, not really, but the fact I think burns him up even more. He vows to kill both Padmini and Madhubala on Padmini's wedding day.

Lots of flashback scenes maybe to connect the past with the viewers who may have missed it, like me!! . The astologer had said that the more this girl rises in her life, he will be shamed. So he wants to kill her before she destroys him.
So the penultimate episode is the wedding day when RK and Madhu may plan to take their pheras alongwith Paddy and madhu, and that is the day when Balraj will aim to kill his family. Quite a suspense drama, no, this track? Not only in terms of current drama but it will also have far reaching impact on future tracks.

Now Madhu is destined to become a star...am trying to connect the dots, which is the path that will lead her to stardom?? is it already on the anvil? What will happen to my favourite couple and their 7 phere shaadi??!! I know it's coming but I don't want the heroine track so soon, 😒, without them getting married!


Is situation par ek daraavna sa gaana to banta hai...

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aaur maut yahaan par sastee hain

kaun balaa tufaanee hain,
maut ko khud hairaanee hain
aaye sadaa wiraanon se,
jo paidaa huaa wo paanee hain



Edited by Soundarya22 - 12 years ago
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Finally we know why Balraj was so desperate to work with RK. The man is broke. From 300 crore to 3 crore wow what a loss and Madhu has not even become an actress. But still Balraj's acting is off the hook I have never had so much pity on a psycho before in my life. On top of everything now he is left with no family. He lost his mother who was his backbone. And I don't if anyone else did but I felt some jealousy in him when he learned that his daughter now calls Shamsher her father. That his wife is now marrying another man while he is alive. His family who he wanted to kill is now happy and cheerful without him. They have learned to live without him and don't need him for anything. While he himself walks around as a loner and pauper, they celebrate all their happiness without him.

Madhu was the only one to sense the curse because she is his main target. She is the main person bearing his wrath. While everyone was there lost in the happiness she could sense the danger ahead. It was also sweet how RK can always sense tension on his wife's face before anyone else even Madhu herself realizes it. Then he tries to make her smile and divert her attention. Foreshadowing he will always protect her even before she completely knows there is danger ahead.

RK has not only found a new family in the forums of the Maliks but he is also finding his own family back at home. His mother and him have differences but she does genuinely care for RK if not Madhu. She wants to see them happy and settled just like RK and Madhu want to settle their own family. I like how the Malik's family picture was not complete without RK there in the same way Madhu is also trying to include Radha in that picture. And RK does what makes Madhu smile if that means giving his own mother a place and saying in his life than so be it. Basically the cvs are showing a complete perfect picture before Balraj becomes evil again so he can be seen as the main source of conflict. P.S. Where is the Bhatia circus does anyone know???

In the episode they layed out all the future tracks ahead. Padmin and Malik marriage. RK and Madhubala's marriage happening on the same day. And Balraj to kill both of them while they are starting their new lives.

Edited by Gurtiluv - 12 years ago
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Kahaani 300 crore se 3 crore ki-- Story of Balraj's riches to rags story

The man is broken and a pauper. This explains why he is without his chamchas and also why he is humbling down to RK and Bittuji and taking the crap from every tom,dick and harry.In order to amass back his lost pride and fortune, he decides to try his hand at film production and hence sets out to Mumbai.

Major part of the episode was seen through Balraj's eyes standing at the chawl gate. He fits in all the pieces of the family. He is enraged that destiny has played a game with him all these years. He reasons out that the reason of his vinash is his beautiful daughter Madhubala and vows to immerse his dead mother's ashes after slaying Pads and Mads on Pads-malik marriage day.

Balraj felt proud that Madhu is beautiful and also for the fact that Padmini still wears MS and sindoor of his name.
He was jealous and angry that his chudhrain is going to get married to pehelwan(Malik) and it's all bcoz of Madhu- "Main tulsi tere aangan ki pehelwanji...Badli karli mere saajan ki pehelwanji"😆
He also felt jealous of pehelwan when he realized that his daughter's carry the surname of Malik.

Balraj is out to uneash his fury and evil on the Malik's and RK.
Why didn't Padmini feel ballu's presence but Madhu who felt someone's weird presence at the chawl gate?

RK-Madhu scene at the chawl was good and the dinner-table scene was okayish. Chair-pulling was a lil too early for me. I am hoping RK would not steal the thunder away from sasuma on her big D-day.
But the big question is will Malik-Padmini get married?

I have a question: Why did Ballu say that he was tricked when he saw Roma and Malik? This was even before he saw Padmini. He saw only Pads and Trish dead-bodies right? how can he assume that Roma and Malik are also dead..
Edited by zoya_naziya - 12 years ago
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Shridevi said that there is no Roma in the picture! Here is a picture with Roma! 😊
Now I'm going to watch the episode.
Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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At the outset, wishing Vivian and Vahbiz blessed togetherness.

The family's parade down the stairs one by one was good… it added dramatic effect for Ballu! In those 5 minutes Ballu's entire existence was shaken. He got so many shocks at one go that he had to prioritise who is the immediate danger. Madhu tops the list because it is the question of his survival/glory! Padmini comes second for having tricked him and made him live a lie and surprisingly not as much for marrying another man… was I the only one who felt so? What makes him dangerous is that despite the shock… he stopped well in time to think of an intelligent option. In his monologue, I felt him to be a bit lost without his mom to guide him. I haven't followed the initial episodes of the show, but whatever flashback seem to show that his mom was brain behind his evil… how effective will he be without her? He apparently hasn't been able to hold onto his heritance after his mom. He pretty much made it clear that he doesn't consider RK to be an enemy (at this stage) He clubbed RK with himself when he declared that both of them will be 'vidwa' shortly. It will be interesting to see if he can afford RK as an enemy simply because he wants the 'shaan' back… for which he needs RK's fortune.

Coming to the pleasant things… The genuine smiles on the Malik family face put a smile on my face. A moment that really touched my heart was RK standing aloof watching the family together with a longing to belong with them, yet he didn't want to intrude. Madhu's reaction came naturally as she called him to join them… this family was now incomplete without him. In her enthusiasm she probably missed how important the moment was to him. There was something about RK's smile that struck a chord, it wasn't delightful, wasn't sad… it was sober… and he is usually is sober when he is thoughtful. Finally he finds himself a part of a family in the truest sense… he is lucky and so are they. May be a random thought… why did the camera capture only Padmini, Trishna, Madhu and RK? Why leave out Malik and Roma? Was it Ballu's perception?

RK-Madhu's bet wala scene was adorable… she is actually denying him his sabse keemti kamayi? Not done, Madhu! Hmmm ' RK ki Biwi' and 'Madhubala ka pati…' had a different ring to it? Equating RK and Madhubala… Harbinger of things to come?

The scene back home was also good… despite the fact that Radhaji was a part of that scene. Why I liked it? RK felt at peace at the end of the day to even show annoyance towards Radhaji. I just don't like Radhaji keeping a tab on RK… the minute he enters the house she shows up! He wanted to be indifferent, almost evasive when Madhu told his mom that it was RK who spoke to Malik-Padmini and made them agree and his mom looked at him. He changed the topic at the 1st instance… he wanted dinner. When Madhu said 'Yes Boss' he almost blushed. Awww he made a cute picture. Havent seen him feeling so content and at peace with himself. It mattered to him that there was someone in his life who is proud of him as a human being and not as a trophy… he is good enough to fight for someone else's happiness, he is worth someone trusting his judgement and relook their relationships. His self-worth must have increased so much…must have done wonders to his wounded soul. God Bless you, RK! I say RK and not Rishab... because Rishab doesnt persevere.

Coming to the dinner scene… I wish they had their dinner at the Maliks… his thoda jala hua gobi is still udaar on Padmini. I can so imagine him on their small dining table… teasing away his sasuma and sasurji along with Roma as his sasuma indulges him (or Malik) with his fav food. That wasn't supposed to be so…here is the huge table at the RK mansion… but thankfully turned out a warm meal for the family. His hitler biwi wasn't going to let him go without inviting his mom to have dinner with them. It was sweet of him to pull the chair for the ladies… but they were simply bhav khaoing…couldn't they be satisfied with him pulling the chair for Radha? No, he had to invite her too. Why doesn't Radha meet his efforts halfway? Why did she have to wait for him to concede and Madhu too??? That is what I don't like… but aslong as RK is not being forced to do and he doesn't mind doing it, I wouldn't have much to complain about.

Radhaji, as much as your idea is brilliant… let this marriage be Malik-Padmini's…. why steal their moment… a moment that was to be 20 years back. RK-Madhu can have a grand wedding after Ballu is executed or send to jail.

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