Episode 161 Discussion: 4th Jan 2013

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Episode 161 Discussion: 4th Jan 2013


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3375517/episode-160-discussion-3rd-jan-2013

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Episode 161 Discussion - EOD Summary

Events of the Episode
  1. Padmini thinks over her past 20 years with Shamsher around her. She is disgusted of that red saree that reminds her of Balraj and his barbarity.
  2. Shamsher professes his love for Padmini, something that he realized just over the last two days at the prompting of his children, but now understands that he had been loving her for the last 20 years and can't think of being separated from her and their kids. They are his life.
  3. Padmini cherishingly eats the food cooked by Shamsher. Seems she is ready. Alas Shamsher is not to be seen around the next morning when she goes to thank him for the food prepared by him. Padmini runs madly over the Mumbai streets when she finds a letter informing her that Shamsher has left them for good.
  4. RK makes Madhu chant her Hauslon se veer hoon mantra. But changes Apne maa ke sahaare to Apne RK ke sahaare, He too chants along with her and calling himself as Yoohin Balbeer hoon. Earlier, Padmini at the beginning of the episode too had chanted the mantra with Ishwar ke sahaare yoohin Balbeer hoon. In the precap, Balraj comes to the chawl and sees Padmini and Madhu. So sirening here that Balraj is set against a gearing up party of his foes (his wife, daughter and their beaus).

Episode Reviews
Page 1 - MarathiMulgi, kt25, pnars
Page 2 - tanu07, Ananya, zoya_naziya, SD
Page 3 - Adhyaay-Chapter
Page 4 - SD
Page 5 - Soundarya
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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nyc episode
more of padmani ek ishq ek janoon
anyway i m loving this track
Edited by nehakariba - 12 years ago
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Mein zindagi ka sath nibhata chala gaya. Padmini aur ladkiyon ka sahara banta chala gaya.

Jeena uska jeena hai jo auron ko jeevan deta hai is an apt description to Malik's life for past 20 years.

Padmini is reminiscing about her past 20 years ago when she had come to Mumbai. She is recollecting the various scenes from her early life in Mumbai with Malik when Malik comes in the room with his own hathon se banaya hua kachha pakka khana lekar. Cho Chweet!!

He takes courage in his hands and talks to Padmini about his feelings, his life before and after he met her and the girls. I wish she had the courage to turn around to see the emotions on his face during his confession. Indeed he is a strong man who did not resort to any theatrics but put it very plainly to her. His dialogues were felt from the heart, not filmy at all. In his own way he told her apne dil ki baat and left it up to her to do what she thinks and feels the best. Either way he is and remains their well wisher.

Aonther cute scene between Madhu and RK -
Loved the prarthana today and change in the line where "Apni Ma ke sahare" is now replaced by "Apne RK ke sahare". Does that mean RK has now replaced that position in Madhu's life and that is what RK is trying to tell her that she can trust him completely? A couple of times he said in between these past 2 episodes ki aaj ka din bohot acchha jayega. Lekin kis ke liye?

Malik has left the house and Padmini is frantic after finding his letter to that effect. She calls and informs Madhu and shown randomly running in the streets looking for Malik.

Precap- Bittuji has brought Ballu to the chawl and who does he see there but Padmini and Madhu. Ballu is shocked to see Padmini who he knows as his wife but he knows Madhu only as RK's biwi. It won't take him long to connect the dots and realize the relation between these 2 women.

Looks like the story has now taken another turn which is quite welcome from all these lovey dovey scenes.

Bohot kuch meethe ke baad ab kuch thoda namkeen ya khatta ho toh hi baat ban jaye!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Today's episode was full on drama and after watching the precap I was so scared of Ballu's expression my heart was in my throat. I actually liked today's episode minus some plot clunkiness where Padmini comes to Malik's place and goes straight to the trunk to find the letter. Why did he have to place the letter inside the trunk in the first place and how does she know that she is going to find something in the trunk. It would have made sense if he had taken the trunk and she could sense that with the trunk being gone Malik is gone as well and then find the letter at a visible spot. That actually made me laugh because she went straight to the trunk like a robot.


However, I liked the fact that RK has actually warmed up to Radha with no influence from Madhu. He went on to surprise Radha who called out his name and then held back thinking that he would not listen to her only to ask her what was she going to say and on top of that acknowledge her request to take care of distressed Madhu by gently nodding his head. I loved his smirk/grin that followed after Radha leaving their room, which basically meant that he knows exactly how to handle Madhu and put her at ease.


Padmini/Malik confrontation was nicely done. I loved how Malik said that he had not expressed how he felt about them for over 20 years now and time has come for him to finally admit that the feeling he has for her is love in addition to trust, respect and care that they share mutually. This couple is starting to grow on me and I loved the fact that Padmini looked at all her collectibles from past with so much love and affection except the saree that reminded her of Ballu which she threw it away in disgust. She already knows what matters the most to her and we can see that from her reaction to Malik leaving them. I liked the fact that Malik opened up to Padmini and told her how he feels about her and their relationship inspite of her reprimands and then decided to leave. This way she is not in the dark about his feelings and he is not at fault for leaving her.


Madhu/RK scene was very cute and typical RKish when he asks her to chant her prayer and then tells her to take his name this time instead of her mom. He thinks of Madhu as his world and wants her to think of him the same way he thinks of her. I was actually reminded of the line from the female version of their song "Tu hi hai maula Tu hi hai Qazi'. It was very funny when she said "I love you RK" and he said "Me too" followed by "I love me". Madhu was brimming with pride and so much trust/love was shining in her eyes for RK and she will definitely have a volcanic eruption of an outburst when she comes to know that he has tested her love simply because Dips questioned her love for him.


Precap gave me the chills when Bittuji took Ballu to chawl and Ballu sees both Padmini and Madhu but does not know Madhu is Padmini's daughter and I am pretty sure it would n't take him long to figure that out. For Ballu, it was probably a shock of his lifetime to see Padmini who he thought was dead and gone for good. We can see that he was furious and wanted to kill Padmini right there but he held his cool right after he saw Madhu because he knows Madhu is RK's wife and from now on he will plan his game and play his cards right. The one person who knows his identity is Trishna and for some reason she has not told anyone about this maniac. We see Mehendi ceremony happening pretty soon and there were articles about Ballu's failed attack to kill Madhu. So will he be only focusing on getting rid of Madhu and let Padmini be or will he want to get rid of both of them? If Mehendi ceremony is happening then that means he is seemingly lying low to plan a bigger attack and might come at the end moment to stop the wedding stating that the marriage is illegal because her first husband is still alive. I was reading in the main forum that some folks were saying that accoriding to Indian laws that if a women is separated from her husband for 7 years or more then the marriage is invalid and Padmini is OK to marry Malik. I thought that you have to be a widow or divorcee to remarry since that's how they operate here in US. RK did say that he wants Padmini and Malik to be legally remarried and what has he done from the legal standpoint? He was asking Bittuji to call the lawyer but whatever happened to the lawyer? Also, Shri raised a valid point that when will Padmini remove her mangalsutra from her previous marriage? I did not see her wearing magalsutra in Mehndi ceremony videos, so I guess somewhere between now and then they will make her remove it. May be she will throw away or burn her red saree and all items that pertained to her previous marriage before the Mehndi ceremony.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I liked the episode, in fact all the epis thi week. Smooth flow, good acting, no jarring stuff (mostly).

I like how comfortable our superstar and his biwi are - ribbing each other, occasional tiffs, but always, always there is love. This is how it should be, hai na? Whenever that separation happens its going to be terribly wrenching for us, and for them. They are so settled in their life now.

Padmini-Shamsher: grounded couple, she's taking more time than him to come around. Not surprising,mconsidering she's got an abusive marriage behind her. She's happy with the status quo. She'll come around soon enough.

The scene of the day today for me was Shamsher's love confession for Padmini. It was straightforward, no-nonsense, real- just like him.

As for Ballu's realization in the precap - bring it on!
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Precap!
Sorry, but I needed to comment on this way!
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@MM,KT25,pnar,excellant reveiws and interpretations.
Loved reading them.
Zorica,loved the ballu expression interpretation.Boy,is he scary,i hope they never end his role and use him wisely,esp the pandits prophecy of madhu bringing his downfall.The story really has a long way to go.
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A nice and honest episode.

The dilemma of Padmini was captured beautifully. She wished to snub the voices of her loved ones telling her that her relationship with Malik is beyond what they acknowledge… she might have succeed for a moment. What she couldn't help was the warmth that engulfed her when she allowed herself a walk down memory. The knowledge of probably sharing something so divine with Malik, a relationship that sheltered and nourished their children was enough to repulse the memory of Ballu. The sari cropped up between her memories of her happy family and she threw it as if it didn't belong with them. The way she threw the sari, a sari that symbolised her commitment to another man… you could see she was finally liberated. She continued to gaze at a piece of paper that started off the most important relationship when Malik walked in, calm and composed just the way she knew him. His silent strength has always been her greatest support system and today was going to be no different… she was about to make another important decision in her life… it was going to be Malik who made the final break through as it should have been. It had to be her love for him and no other pressure that would have made her accept Malik as a companion.

What followed was a beautiful scene… a scene which was as natural as it could get and as sincere as emotions they truly felt for eachother. Padmini got worked up the moment she saw Malik had injured himself only to restrain herself when she realised she couldn't justify her concern. Malik's confession was so wonderful… hats off to the creative who wrote the scene… to begin with it suited their age, it took into consideration their 20 years of togetherness… it was beautiful… simple, heartfelt and honest. He began by saying how he didn't bother about anything when Padmini and the kids chanced upon him and slowly became his reason to live. He was content to go with the flow… because life had never been beautiful, never was worth a thought before they came into his life. He was coaxed to think of this relationship after so many years (Thank you, RK!) and has now found an answer. I loved the way he worded his emotions 'yeh rista vishwas, samaan ka hai, aur meri taraf se pyar ka hai'. The word 'pyar' can out as an equal to words 'vishwas' and 'samaan' which they have all along acknowledged, it came out with the same dignity the latter two deserved. I have always loved Malik as a father, but today I love him for the person he is. From the time he has been confronted of his love for Padmini he has never denied or demeaned it… he has been exceptionally dignified. And today even as he confessed, as clear as he was about his emotions for Padmini he also made it clear that these emotions are his, only his. Not once during the confession, he asked her to reciprocate… his only agenda was to retain the honesty in their relationship, she deserved to hear the truth because it concerned her. His only wish was he didn't want to be left alone, without her, without the kids. At the end he made sure she understood that her happiness was all that mattered to him and he will pray for that.

RK would be immensely impressed with his sasurji talking his advise seriously…I can so imagine him seeting maroing for his fave lovestory and his real life superstars.

If Malik's confession was beautiful… I have no words to describe the scene that followed. Padmini's walk to the food was her realisation, her acknowledgement of her love for Malik. The walk was marked with slight hesitancy in her steps but she was drawn towards as if it was her ultimate destination. There was so much of tenderness when she picked up the burnt, hard roti because Malik has prepared it. She took a bite and cherished it… there was a sense of urgency to take the second bite aswell.. it was almost like the 20 years gone by was too much time lost. The privacy in the moment was what enhanced the scene so much more. Padmini was given that space to enjoy the feeling of being loved as a woman. It was a moment so rare for her… experiencing your love and the love of you man for the 1st time… there was happiness and relief that only a heart who has finally got home will feel. Again the beauty of the scene was its simplicity… it didn't have to have loud dialogues, confrontation or the camera going crazy to mark it as a momentous event… It concentrated on Padmini-Malik and their heartfelt emotions. Pallavi took the scene to a completely different level.

RK-Madhu scene was adorable. Another moment when RK scored a brownie… can Madhu please have some??? It was such a wonderful way to wake Madhu up when she is feeling down and low. He held her hand to remind her of her inner strength that helped her see his devilish avtar through. It is moments like that you realise why 'junoon' is a part of the title… He wanted to tell her he is always by her side… but he chose to reword her prayer with him being an integral part of it. Typical! A nice cosy scene… what I liked it Madhu snuggled back into the bed… she didn't get into her patnidarm duties running off to get his tea/coffee/juice! And RK finished with a flourish in reply to her 'I love you…', 'Me too…I love me'! There is never a dull moment with him around.

Padmini was back home I suppose because she walked in with empty plates… obviously she would get home and cook. Can someone please present Malik with a cupboard… the man has been living out of a suitcase and an ancient one at that! And what on earth was that letter… after that wonderful confession… Malik chose to leave? Doesn't make sense at all. It better be a prank by RK/Roma/Trishna… anyone, not Malik. Even if it is Malik's I think he might have written after he returned from jail for having attacked RK and Padmini was upset with him. He cant probably write that now. As expected Padmini was hysterical…. Lets see what happens trow.

Trow doesn't sound very good with Ballu getting to know about Padmini and Madhu.

Edited by tanu07 - 12 years ago

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