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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala,
I wasnt clear enough here maybe, although I did say it in some post. I DO believe that they are married, I have no doubts about that at all..I said I reserve my judgement on Purvi-Onir relationship because I am not exactly sure about the true nature of relationship after the marriage. Is it platonic or real in the true sense. Sometimes it looks like they are husband and wife in the true sense with all the lovey dovey talk as a couple, but sometimes they act more like friends. Some of Onir's dialogues are enigmatic.

I was pretty surprised too that Purvi didnt tell him about her family, but maybe she did it, because she wanted a clean break from them. Imagine the chaos if they knew where she was and how she was.. If she told him about them, she would have to tell him about Ovi too.. So, this actually pretty much rules out the theory that they were friends before... I still believe Onir knows about the baby's father if not the name...Let me see if that belief is shattered too like the rest of mine..😊

As far as her sanskaars, I really have no clue any more of the true nature of these people anymore. All that we believed of them to be is butchered beyond repair, I feel, so dont know what to expect anymore from them. I could never believe that even Arjun would take that step before marriage..but apparently he did... But, yes, Purvi with all her sanskaars of times before, doing it, is more unbelievable .. still to me..even after seeing it all..

About Onir's fate, if and when she leaves him, it would be bad, yes, but nothing like Arjun's fate..For, even she cannot beat that !! If it is going to happen the way you think, Onir does not deserve it on any count for all that he has done for her. I repeat, look at Arjun's fate... So, nothing will surprise me anymore..

About Onir moving to Bombay, how are they going to justify it? He was too busy with his patients to even go there for a day before, and now he is going to shift there? Isnt he supposed to go international somewhere in a few days.. I hope they show some logic to this...

I have read ur changes to the earlier post...The reason we wrote about Ovi was bec this thread was more a reaction to what we saw in yesterday's episode..I just cannot stand her anymore, she just annoys me to no end with her ghostly look and her shrieking.. Someone needs to tell that actress that shrieking is not the only way to show your anger and frustration..It just grates on my nerves, atleast. Her scenes have become so predictable and makes me want to reach for the mute button..😊

Even though I like Onir, I do not want to think about him too much and get attached to this character too..I am still reeling from the other one and after all these debacles, I am still hanging in here for the silly boy...So, I think adding Onir will be too much for my poor heart to take 😊

Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, Jyothi, I am afraid do not buy that old chestnut that Onir and Purvi are not really married. It is of a piece with the other theory that Ovi's baby is not Arjun's - in short an exercise in wishful thinking.

By all means hold your horses on the former if you want to , but as for me, I cannot think of one reason why a true blue Bengali bhadralok with a sterling family reputation would pretend to marry a single mother-to-be and go thru all kinds of sacred functions with her, making a mockery of marriage, and of Durga Maa as well. It is quite simply unbelievable.

Moreover, Purvi has suppressed all the truth about herself, whereas I would have expected her to come clean on everything to Onir. In doing so, she has fallen several steps further down in my estimation. I never believed that she could hide the truth from him so blatantly, but then I never believed that her baby could be Arjun's either. What foolish trust!

All that is now needed is for it to be finally confirmed that she is carrying an illegitimate baby, for that is what it will be, all the gushing by the ArVi groupies notwithstanding, and then she would be right at the bottom as far as I am concerned. Let us not talk, please, of Arjun having been 'as good as' her husband (I am just borrowing your phrase; I know that you meant it in quite a different sense). There is a clear difference, that should have been all the clearer to such a paragon of sanskaars, between one who is your husband, and one who is your boyfriend. To think that she indulged in a fling with him without waiting to get married is just plain disgusting, and nothing anyone can say will change that for me.

I am simply not 'advanced ' enough to take this and rejoice over her carrying 'Arjun ke pyaar ki nishaani' - ugh! When this is finally proclaimed is when I quit PR, and this forum, once and for all.

I do not see Onir moving to Mumbai to treat one patient, unless our sanskaari paragon blackmails him too emotionally into doing so. In any case, as soon as he starts treating Ovi, she will tell him the facts about Arjun and Purvi. So as far as Purvi's relationship with Onir is concerned, it will never be the same again. He may forgive her, for he seems to be gentle, but he will never forget.

Lastly, I do not think she will be doing Onir any great favour by 'not abandoning him'. She does not deserve him, any more than she deserved Arjun earlier. She damages or destroys every man she gets involved with: she ought to go about, like Oliver Twist - with a board proclaiming :BEWARE OF HER, SHE DITCHES'!

I am sorry if I seem too caustic, but the sight of one good man after the other being exploited by this sanskaari character - in Arjun's case because he was a fool, and in Onir's because he did not do the kind of due diligence needed before entering into any relationship, business or personal - just makes me hopping mad. And all this gushing about ArVi getting together again, totally forgetting that their going apart was deliberate on her side and voluntary on his, and disregarding the demolition derby they would leave in their wake now, . makes me feel downright queasy.

The sooner PR shuts down, the better it will be for all of us. But it seems that far from shutting down, there is another major leap planned for next summer!

Shyamala


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ash dearest,

Well, it is nice of you to say so, but these days I do not like my own posts - they are so negative and acidic. But what can I do? PR grates on my nerves, and in PR, Ovi and Purvi grate on them the most, in that order.

As Jyothi says. Ovi's constant shrieking, and her awfully distorted face, are becoming really too much to take. Jyothi wants to reach for the mute button, but I would like to give Ovi half a dozen juicy whacks with a solid slipper of the old fashioned kind. Ought to do her some good. And Purvi's cow eyed looks and that eternally drooping face get on my nerves big time as well. What is it with these women?

Arjun, with his perennially tortured expression, looks a prime candidate for a crucifixion scene; in any case, he is already paying for all the sins of the rest. What she had done to him is something for which I can NEVER forgive Purvi. She has not just dumped him, she has condemned him to the worst kind of life imprisonment ,while she swans around with a top order, and foolishly doting husband jo use palkon par bitatha hai. Some women have all the luck!

Oh yes, I goofed up about the board: it was not Oliver Twist but poor little David Copperfield. Your idea of MW is very nice too! So long as she wear something and those approaching her are duly warned!😉

Take care, my dear, and here is wishing you and the whole family a very happy, healthy, and peaceful 2013.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Ashlaika

Shyamala Aunty loved reading ur posts, even when we dont agree on everything :-) How about MW sewed onto her clothes: Mahaan Woman: Proceed with caution! :D

The way Hester wore the big bring A in Scarlet Letter, Purvi can wear her MW!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jyothi,

I understand exactly how you feel about not making any more emotional commitments to anyone in this witches' brew of a story. I cling to Onir as he is the only thing that is even slightly pleasing these days, now that Arjun looks perennially like a candidate for crucifixion, while Ovi shrieks non-stop like a banshee, and Purvi goes about with weepy cow eyes and a permanently doleful face.

Today, as I watched Arjun while Onir was categorically refusing to treat Ovi any longer, my heart went out to him once more. He looked shipwrecked and so desolate, without any idea of what he should do now for that benighted shrew of a wife his eternal beloved had landed him with. He is longing for his mom, the poor boy, thinking that she have brought Ovi round, but he is seriously mistaken. No one can bring her around.

If I were Aashana, I would first slap Purvi silly, and then take that slipper to Ovi. And finally sit down and lament over my ever having advised my son to get involved with this sanskaari serial ditcher. I can NEVER forgive Purvi for what she did to him; not just ditching him but condemning him to life imprisonment. She has in effect locked him into this marriage with her 'If you ever loved me, you will do this and this and this and this", and thrown away the key

Incidentally, I goofed up on that board thing; it was David Copperfield, not Oliver Twist, the only saving grace being that it was a Dickens character after all!😉

Jyothi, I too cannot understand how a gynaecologist can be fooled in such matters, but today Onir was clearly talking of himself as the baap of Purvi's kid. I do not know what to think of this, or indeed of anything else in PR these days. What you say @blue is spot on.

Plus, as you must have seen from the precap, it is going to be exactly as I had foreseen, with Ms.Mahaanta emotionally blackmailing Onir into treating her 'sister' Ovi. Now I am waiting to see how much of the truth she tells him, now that her hand has been forced by circumstances, and how much is embroidery. Also how Onir reacts to these revelations from his Mishti. In this context, I really do not see why she had to tell him that she was an orphan. Being so inventive, she could have produced some reason for the break from her family and used that for explaining why she was not getting in touch with them about her wedding or her baby.

Now, if the whole stuff about her and Arjun comes out, Onir will instantly cotton on it to explain Ovi's hysteria. Then, he will have Arjun hanging around all the time and running into his own wife, and he might or might not be able to tolerate that, unless he is saintly to boot! There are some things not even the gentlest person can take, especially since Onir is clearly besotted with his Mishti. It is love pure and simple on his side, not on hers. She only uses him for her own ends, and if Arjun and Ovi had not turned up, she would have continued to be all sweetness and light. But they have, and when the crunch comes, she will never choose Onir over her parivaar.

Anyhow, I cannot see anything even remotely pleasant in the offing, and as for Teju and Sunny and Savita, they are plain ludicrous. So, let us cling to the (admittedly very faint) hope that Purvi's baby is Onir's after all. That will be some slight consolation, but I know in my bones that it is not going to turn out that way.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju



Shyamala,

I wasnt clear enough here maybe, although I did say it in some post. I DO believe that they are married, I have no doubts about that at all..I said I reserve my judgement on Purvi-Onir relationship because I am not exactly sure about the true nature of relationship after the marriage. Is it platonic or real in the true sense. Sometimes it looks like they are husband and wife in the true sense with all the lovey dovey talk as a couple, but sometimes they act more like friends. Some of Onir's dialogues are enigmatic.

I was pretty surprised too that Purvi didnt tell him about her family, but maybe she did it, because she wanted a clean break from them. Imagine the chaos if they knew where she was and how she was.. If she told him about them, she would have to tell him about Ovi too.. So, this actually pretty much rules out the theory that they were friends before... I still believe Onir knows about the baby's father if not the name...Let me see if that belief is shattered too like the rest of mine..😊

As far as her sanskaars, I really have no clue any more of the true nature of these people anymore. All that we believed of them to be is butchered beyond repair, I feel, so dont know what to expect anymore from them. I could never believe that even Arjun would take that step before marriage..but apparently he did... But, yes, Purvi with all her sanskaars of times before, doing it, is more unbelievable .. still to me..even after seeing it all..

About Onir's fate, if and when she leaves him, it would be bad, yes, but nothing like Arjun's fate..For, even she cannot beat that !! If it is going to happen the way you think, Onir does not deserve it on any count for all that he has done for her. I repeat, look at Arjun's fate... So, nothing will surprise me anymore..

About Onir moving to Bombay, how are they going to justify it? He was too busy with his patients to even go there for a day before, and now he is going to shift there? Isnt he supposed to go international somewhere in a few days.. I hope they show some logic to this...

I have read ur changes to the earlier post...The reason we wrote about Ovi was bec this thread was more a reaction to what we saw in yesterday's episode..I just cannot stand her anymore, she just annoys me to no end with her ghostly look and her shrieking.. Someone needs to tell that actress that shrieking is not the only way to show your anger and frustration..It just grates on my nerves, atleast. Her scenes have become so predictable and makes me want to reach for the mute button..😊

Even though I like Onir, I do not want to think about him too much and get attached to this character too..I am still reeling from the other one and after all these debacles, I am still hanging in here for the silly boy...So, I think adding Onir will be too much for my poor heart to take 😊

Edited by sashashyam - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju



@bold1 - Yeah, now Aai will definitely say that "You found a great guy "! how did he become great before even getting to know him.. He is great by virtue of being the doc who will save her darling Ovi ...!! I guess now, all "saath Khoon Maaf" of Purvi.. who was yelled at the day before as the daughter who forgot her Aai...not any more !! She gave a full funda of the dukhbhari kahani of Ovi, so she can get her Mahaantha protegee back in the fold.. And am, sure she will succeed.. Not a kind word about Purvi's pregnancy there... not even a query about the baby.. It is all about Ovi Darling !! What a mother, again..!! She takes the cake..

BTW, is it the 'petulant child' or the 'peculant child' of Dr. Dutt .😆

So what if Purvi-Arjun can play promise-promise, Ovi can play tantrum-tantrum too well... 😃

Arjun tho poora phasgaya bechara.. He should have taken the chance before, to leave Ovi, he didnt, now, he cannot and will not because of his baby, and is subjected to a life sentence .. Partly his own doing.. but mostly others...






Right on, Jyo!
This Archana is equally responsible for ruining Arjun and Purvi's life along with Ovi. No, she didn't do it intentionally .. how can she .. it all just turns out so conveniently for her UNINTENTIONALLY.

When the girl was about to get married, she kept crying - 'my family!', 'my family!!' to her making her feel as if she had this BIG BURDEN on her shoulders that she NEEDs to repay. And the girl did it.

Now again she is crying 'my Ovi', 'her pregnancy', 'her married life', 'her future life'...

These are the guilt trip cards she plays to the girl -
1. Oh you found a great husband for yourself ...
2. Arjun is TRYING ...
3. Ovi's pregnancy and complications, her insecurities ...

In all those moves , the pin-points only to Purvi to DO SOMETHING ... and ONCE AGAIN!



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5



Right on, Jyo!
This Archana is equally responsible for ruining Arjun and Purvi's life along with Ovi. No, she didn't do it intentionally .. how can she .. it all just turns out so conveniently for her UNINTENTIONALLY.

When the girl was about to get married, she kept crying - 'my family!', 'my family!!' to her making her feel as if she had this BIG BURDEN on her shoulders that she NEEDs to repay. And the girl did it.

Now again she is crying 'my Ovi', 'her pregnancy', 'her married life', 'her future life'...

These are the guilt trip cards she plays to the girl -
1. Oh you found a great husband for yourself ...
2. Arjun is TRYING ...
3. Ovi's pregnancy and complications, her insecurities ...

In all those moves , the pin-points only to Purvi to DO SOMETHING ... and ONCE AGAIN!



bee word!!! 👏 I have always believed that archana is the one who is actually the cause of this mess. And the way you have put the pin points of her discourse all together is absolutely what I had in my mind!! She is the biggest black mailing queen. I will going to accuse her for being an emotional blackmailed woman who set herself open just when purvi was getting married. And walla!, when ovi set a deal in front of purvi, why wouldn't she shake hands? And now again she is trying to make purvi pursue the same thing! I dislike archana for what she has done to arvi relationship.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala,
I haven't seen friday's episode yet, just read the WU, which was enough of a turn off for me to watch it online. I am down with some flu symptoms and my poor head cant take OVI today !
Anyways, the friday episode airs sunday night for us, so it can wait..
As I understand, Ovi baby has a tantrum, mommy calls daddy, daddy gets the baby her favorite stuffed toy to pacify the baby, and the baby is happy..but just for a while...yucks..when are they ever gonna treat her like a adult that she is and stop treating her like a wayward child..If this is how Manav thinks parenting works, no wonder she turned out this way.
Arjun is doomed for a life of misery by his so called love, who is blissfully happy on her end after subjecting him to this life with this harridan. Every one is out there to tell him how to take care of the shrew, for godsake.. I wish Onir gives Ovi a reality check atleast.. He started out good with her but again is towing the line of the d-clan to give love psychology to Arjun..
Purvi and Onir, I really dont know what to think of them anymore...Archana has re-recruited her mahaantha protegee again by giving her the tales of Ovi's woes, and got her mind working on it again. Mission Succesful , protegee back in action..
Just as Arjun was never the top of her list, Onir will never be either..
Teju-Sunny nonsense is just plain annoying, they look like bro-sis. If that is called romance, then someone needs their head examined...Apparently Punni's engagememt story to be started again and some track to start about it..Jia confirmed it on twitter...
So, endless nonsense, without a sign of any sanity in the near future... I dont care about anyone in PR anymore except for Arjun. For he has suffered enough, and would like to see some joy in his life his way...I doubt they would give him even that much...

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Jyothi,

I understand exactly how you feel about not making any more emotional commitments to anyone in this witches' brew of a story. I cling to Onir as he is the only thing that is even slightly pleasing these days, now that Arjun looks perennially like a candidate for crucifixion, while Ovi shrieks non-stop like a banshee, and Purvi goes about with weepy cow eyes and a permanently doleful face.

Today, as I watched Arjun while Onir was categorically refusing to treat Ovi any longer, my heart went out to him once more. He looked shipwrecked and so desolate, without any idea of what he should do now for that benighted shrew of a wife his eternal beloved had landed him with. He is longing for his mom, the poor boy, thinking that she have brought Ovi round, but he is seriously mistaken. No one can bring her around.

If I were Aashana, I would first slap Purvi silly, and then take that slipper to Ovi. And finally sit down and lament over my ever having advised my son to get involved with this sanskaari serial ditcher. I can NEVER forgive Purvi for what she did to him; not just ditching him but condemning him to life imprisonment. She has in effect locked him into this marriage with her 'If you ever loved me, you will do this and this and this and this", and thrown away the key

Incidentally, I goofed up on that board thing; it was David Copperfield, not Oliver Twist, the only saving grace being that it was a Dickens character after all!😉

Jyothi, I too cannot understand how a gynaecologist can be fooled in such matters, but today Onir was clearly talking of himself as the baap of Purvi's kid. I do not know what to think of this, or indeed of anything else in PR these days. What you say @blue is spot on.

Plus, as you must have seen from the precap, it is going to be exactly as I had foreseen, with Ms.Mahaanta emotionally blackmailing Onir into treating her 'sister' Ovi. Now I am waiting to see how much of the truth she tells him, now that her hand has been forced by circumstances, and how much is embroidery. Also how Onir reacts to these revelations from his Mishti. In this context, I really do not see why she had to tell him that she was an orphan. Being so inventive, she could have produced some reason for the break from her family and used that for explaining why she was not getting in touch with them about her wedding or her baby.

Now, if the whole stuff about her and Arjun comes out, Onir will instantly cotton on it to explain Ovi's hysteria. Then, he will have Arjun hanging around all the time and running into his own wife, and he might or might not be able to tolerate that, unless he is saintly to boot! There are some things not even the gentlest person can take, especially since Onir is clearly besotted with his Mishti. It is love pure and simple on his side, not on hers. She only uses him for her own ends, and if Arjun and Ovi had not turned up, she would have continued to be all sweetness and light. But they have, and when the crunch comes, she will never choose Onir over her parivaar.

Anyhow, I cannot see anything even remotely pleasant in the offing, and as for Teju and Sunny and Savita, they are plain ludicrous. So, let us cling to the (admittedly very faint) hope that Purvi's baby is Onir's after all. That will be some slight consolation, but I know in my bones that it is not going to turn out that way.

Shyamala

Edited by jdronamraju - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5


Right on, Jyo!
This Archana is equally responsible for ruining Arjun and Purvi's life along with Ovi. No, she didn't do it intentionally .. how can she .. it all just turns out so conveniently for her UNINTENTIONALLY.

When the girl was about to get married, she kept crying - 'my family!', 'my family!!' to her making her feel as if she had this BIG BURDEN on her shoulders that she NEEDs to repay. And the girl did it.

Now again she is crying 'my Ovi', 'her pregnancy', 'her married life', 'her future life'...

These are the guilt trip cards she plays to the girl -
1. Oh you found a great husband for yourself ...
2. Arjun is TRYING ...
3. Ovi's pregnancy and complications, her insecurities ...

In all those moves , the pin-points only to Purvi to DO SOMETHING ... and ONCE AGAIN!


Well, the well trained daughter got the hint, didn't she !! She is back on track ONCE AGAIN to DO SOMETHING ! While the Guru Ma, rests back on her laurels with her devoted husband, this 7/8 month old pregnant daughter is going to make everything alright for the Princess, who, BTW, detests her and will leave no stones unturned to cause her harm.
So, history repeats itself, as this foolish devoted daughter jumps at her Aai's unsaid bidding !!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Arjun we all are there with you. Arjun you have all our back. Hang in there.
I agree we are with Arjun in this. We have his back. Now can he please stand up straight and be a man and tell these intefereing women to stop. Can he now begin to live his own life?!!!😡😡😡
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju


Well, the well trained daughter got the hint, didn't she !! She is back on track ONCE AGAIN to DO SOMETHING ! While the Guru Ma, rests back on her laurels with her devoted husband, this 7/8 month old pregnant daughter is going to make everything alright for the Princess, who, BTW, detests her and will leave no stones unturned to cause her harm.
So, history repeats itself, as this foolish devoted daughter jumps at her Aai's unsaid bidding !!



Yes, Jyo, Girl got the hint right and straight. Now that Dad also cane and showered with love, now she HAS to do their bidding!
...and the CVs have nothing else to show other than recycling their old scrap :-/
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