Asad should watch what he says to Zoya... - Page 3

Gul is not justifying him.. He is negative in positive way.. He has grey shades.. I am not liking asad either (i mean character, KSG is my cutie pie).. Zoya will show him r8 path and thats what their love story is all about..

Originally posted by: ---Nisha---

In my eyes the highlighted red part is the issue with Asad. Its the mentality that girls who wear jeans or short clothes, who are modern, are not cultural, or are not religious are character less. That is the issue with Asad. Just because someone ridiculed and did not follow their religion does not mean they are bad people. Hinduism fascinates me but only as mythology, I cannot in my right mind truly believe it as a fact. And I have sometimes ridiculed some of things about Christianity, roman mythology and even hindiusm, but that doesnt mean anything. Being religious and cultural does not somehow automatically give someone a higher ground than someone who isnt.

Anyways, I grew up in Mumbai...lived there for 12 years. I liked playing holi and diwali and I sometimes went to poojas but that was the extent of my culture/ religion. So when I moved to America the fact that there was so much less indian culture around me just influenced me to become less and less cultural/religious. And now I find that I am not very traditional and certainly not religious (that isnt all my fault though..my parents never made me participate in anything religious or cultural if I didnt want to). I also wear shorts/tank tops etc etc, but all that doesnt make me "loose" or character less. I still have my principles, my own morals. Thats what disgusting men like Asad never understand... that women who are not religious can have even more dignity, morals, and self-respect than the so called adharsh girl who is cultural and religious, who never speaks in front of elders or raises her voice. Btw, I know many girls here who claim to be religious (deeply) and cultural yet they go out and drink and hook up with men and do drugs as well. And I dont judge them for their lifestyles...they can live their life exactly the way they see fit. The only thing that I dont like is the hypocrisy. Be what you are (if you arent religious then why pretend?) And anyways if culture and religion mean such things to these girls, then who is Asad to say that a noncultural woman like me is without tehzeeb, while these girls do have tehzeeb? Who on earth made him the judge???

And I agree Zoya is a bit crazy. I would never behave the way she has that too in someone else's house, but Asad still had no right to set up a meeting. Firstly, he pried into his guests personal life and also he pried into his employee's life. An employer's job is not to regulate his employee's personal life...its to monitor his employee's work.

Bringing up Zoya's parents...that was awful. I was truly disgusted at that moment because I thought well what about your parents...how did your mother raise you Asad. Did she raise you to speak to women like that, to judge women like that, to call women degrading names??

The problem with Asad is that he has no tehzeeb which he keeps spouting to Zoya all the time like a broken record. If I was a guest in a man like Asad's house then I would leave that instant and never return. My pride would never allow me to remain in such a man's house who has insulted me so deeply. I would rather live in a third class hotel. Heck, I have broken friendships for less. So Asad's behavior is absolutely unforgivable in my eyes.

What baffles me is that Asad has such an elegant, well rounded, understanding, kind mother. How could he end up the way he did? Regressive, backward, control freak??

And yes he is regressive. I tried giving the character Asad a lot of time because I have been feeling like this since the beginning, but IF members said give him time. And now its been what 1 or 2 months and my opinion has just worsened.

Hi Nisha,

Originally posted by: chandaursitare

You can call me Chand. It's nice to meet you. 😊 Personally never read Mills and Boon and I do not mind her inspiration, but only the mindset her male characters have. Somehow she expects the viewers to understand the men just because of their past, but then what about the women? She portrays this idea on screen that nobody should care about them because it is all about the guy and his past suffering. He has no right to try to demean Zoya because he knows nothing about her or her life.

Nisha, I whole heartedly agree. How she can possibly live in that house is beyond me. You can take an insult once, even twice, but he does it every chance he gets. She can still meet her aunt without having to live with them. It would be really nice for once to have Zoya call him out without him shoving his views down people's throats because it is his house and he is the man.. and it is ok for Ayaan because he is a guy and you know "boys will be boys." Only thing we can control are women.

hi Chand,

Originally posted by: Namzz

Great post Priyanka. I am Namz. I too find Asad's behaviour towards Zoya coz of her being an NRI quite insulting. I have never set foot in India, I speak perfect Hindi, have my morals and cultural and religious values. I wear western and Indian clothes and I am Canadian, so in the eyes of men like Asad, that makes me cheap?? Its kinda hard to digest. Insulting her parents is a big No No...I know Zoya can be really annoying but come one, she has never insulted his mom, his upbringing. She is a free spirit, I would retaliate too if someone tried to put a curfew on me. If someone insulted my parents I probably would rip them to shred with words. Since its a fictional show, I am giving Asad a chance to redeem himself and apologize sincerely to Zoya. Ayaan is really bad, he flirts with women and all yet Asad is only judgemental towards Zoya...that's such an oxymoron!!!

hi namzz...thanks. I know Zoya can be annoying at times and I have no problem in him saying that she should respect the house rules of her host. But what has irked me big time is his baseless judgements on her just because she is a NRI. That was way out of line and its not acceptable.he had no right to bring in her parents into the equation...that is a direct insult and must have hurt Zoya immensely because she is out there to find her dad. He went farther and arranged a meeting with Akram...who has given him the right to do that ? He was still callous when Dilshad expressed her worry...but instead he called her a musibat. I don't even want to begin with Ayaan's fiasco...he just gives me a headache. Asad right now seems like a hypocrite and sexist to me. Ms Gul should tone him down...she needs to realize that it's going to be very hard to watch them in love because there has been words said that cannot be taken back.

Originally posted by: simran45

he siad zoya all that becoz of her behaviour she is alwasy fighting with guys n thinking she will do it but at the end she gets in trouble she makes his siter to lie to him that sister for whom he did soo much n who never lied to him so what u expect he will respect her n her behaviour her untidy nature this all is irritating sometimes to viewers also so what u expect

n now akram n zoya i agree he should listen to her u can't take decision like this but he knows akram n he thinks he is nice guy n zoya always make decision without thinking

Asad's sister Najma is not a toddler...she can decide for herself...Dilshad knew that they were going to watch the match. Her untidy nature...really? So her untidy nature gives him the right to say that she doesn't have any morals ? Does it give him the right to insult her parents?

Originally posted by: vedu

Gul is not justifying him.. He is negative in positive way.. He has grey shades.. I am not liking asad either (i mean character, KSG is my cutie pie).. Zoya will show him r8 path and thats what their love story is all about..

I think Zoya has been insulted enough by him...she needs to move out of that house.

Originally posted by: mila112

I agree with you to a certain extent, but not with everything dear..yes Asad should not have poked his nose where it does not belong..but if you were in Asad position probably would have done the same...Zoya has not been in his good book from day 1 with all her antics and made a very bad impression on him, for Asad she is a trouble maker and who he also sees as a very strong headed and independent woman who can look after herself on the other hand his concern for Akram who he think is very bhola bhala...so he would not never expect him to do any harm to Zoya.

this is what I think...honestly, I don't like staying in anyone's house even if its my own brother's or dad's. so if I was in Zoya's place I wouldn't be staying at anyone's house for that matter. Now, if I was in Asad's place I wouldn't be saying anything to Zoya on her behavior or etiquette because above all Zoya would be my mothers' guest and if I respect my mother the way Asad is shown to respect Dilshad, I would leave it on Dilshad to handle her. Asad here has gone way out of his limit.

I agree with you in countless ways. I feel that Asad's character needs a renovation. The creative team claimed that they wanted to portray Asad's character as a strict, traditional guys who upholds his values and culture beyond anything in his life, however, so far all I have been able to see is a guy who has many preconceived notions and misconceptions of what women should and should not do, how girls from foreign countries behave and the role of women in society. His behavior and ideals are outright outrageous. It is one thing to be traditional and another thing to be sexist! To me Asad seems less traditional and more of a sexist male who has the idea that women are not equal to men and should contain themselves to their home and family. We live in the 21st century for crying out loud. Such ideals are the reason for distress in many countries and I feel the reason for cases such as, the Dehli Rape Case. Why is if that women are always looked down upon and asked to change? Why is it that Asad feels that Zoya's parents have not instilled correct values in her? Is it so hard for him to accept that everyone is different and carry different viewpoints. Just because Asad's father cheated and left his mother does not give Asad the right to accuse or abuse other people. I understand he has gone through a rough childhood but how is it the fault of all women and Zoya for what happened to him? Why doesn't he stop to think that if his mother was more powerful, independent and like Zoya she would not have had to endured half the things she has had to go through because she would have the courage to stand up and fight for herself and not sit at home and cry about how her husband cheated on her and left her and her kids 18 years ago! Zoya knew she would not be able to fulfill her marriage with Akram because there are things from her past and her life which she needs to clear before she can be happy and focus on her present and future, therefore, say no to the marriage and left. If she had married Akram neither Akram would be happy and neither would Zoya. The cherry on top is the fact that Asad feels the necessity to take it upon himself to make Zoya and Akram meet because HE feels she owes him an explanation. Just because Zoya lives with him does not give Asad the right to take Zoya's decisions for her. She is a grown woman who knows what she wants and needs to do in her life and doesn't need his approval. I think the creatives seriously don't know the definition between traditional and sexist. Correct me if I am wrong but in which religious scripture does it give men the right to treat women with such inferiority? Or gives people the guideline of how to dress? I don't think there is one. It is the people of our society that create this backwards thinking and push it forward for other people to believe.

I am not sure why 4 Lions finds the urge to create male character who abuse and taunt the female protagonists in any way possible and then make them fall in love. I am sorry to say, but I don't think if in reality someone treated me the way Asad is treated Zoya I would give them my time of day, much less go on to marry them. Are they trying to say after Zoya and Asad fall in love Asad will get rid of his values. Do they think it is a joke and that easy to get rid of the ideals and values we have grown up with?

Sorry for writing so much but I completely agreed with you and wanted to share some of my thoughts on this matter as well. Great topic.

Guys its a fictional drama! No need to get so serious! Its entertainment so chill and enjoy the karanlicious show(:

Originally posted by: simran45

he siad zoya all that becoz of her behaviour she is alwasy fighting with guys n thinking she will do it but at the end she gets in trouble she makes his siter to lie to him that sister for whom he did soo much n who never lied to him so what u expect he will respect her n her behaviour her untidy nature this all is irritating sometimes to viewers also so what u expect

n now akram n zoya i agree he should listen to her u can't take decision like this but he knows akram n he thinks he is nice guy n zoya always make decision without thinking

I understand what you are saying but I don't think it is wrong that Zoya stands up for women and fights with men who harass woman. The day Najma was getting teased she was just standing there hovering in fear, but listening to everything the men had to say without retaliating. That does not make Najma a girl with good morals! I think what Zoya said to Asad that day was proper about how he shouldn't be mad at her for beating the men up because she did the same thing he would have done after he had found out that some men teased his sister. Why is it okay for Asad to go around beating men for treating his sister badly and not for Zoya? Is it because she is a woman and he is a man? On top of that Zoya has never asked Najma to lie to Asad besides the day they went to watch Cricket and even then Najma is not a little girl and Zoya is not holding a gun to her head telling her to lie or else she'll kill her. Najma is grown girl who should know how to differentiate between right and wrong.

However, I agree with her untidiness. If Asad and his family have given her a place to live does not mean she gets to make their home a trash can. She should respect their house and clean up after herself that is just basic manners and etiquette. However, I still don't think that is reason enough to say some of the things that he says to Zoya.