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Posted: 12 years ago
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yes this is a very big issue, many ppl find Salman or other stars as their role model, and if these big stars promote these things then the viewers get influenced and find it cool.. like the line is 'mein to tandoori murgi hoon yaar gatkaale saiyaan alcohol se...' these things are also the reason for these types of heinous crimes but not fully.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Ashraa..

yes this is a very big issue, many ppl find Salman or other stars as their role model, and if these big stars promote these things then the viewers get influenced and find it cool.. like the line is 'mein to tandoori murgi hoon yaar gatkaale saiyaan alcohol se...' these things are also the reason for these types of heinous crimes but not fully.

I think our entertainment industry hardly gives respect to women now days
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think our entertainment industry hardly gives respect to women now days

yes your right and many other item songs such as chikni chameli, munni badnaam and sheila ki jawaani sets a very bad message, disrespecting women. Why call them item girls are women just an object? They are artists and not items.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -ksh-

Has cinema also contributed to the increasing crimes against women by almost always showing them as mere objects?

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As outrage over the Delhi rape case builds, people are asking why women are such big targets for crime. Many factors go into creating social mindsets, including popular culture. Since cinema is the most influential popular culture medium in India, we aske

"'Then, of course, there's our entertainment, our television and our films, which often portray the ideal woman just like our mothers, perfect cooks and virginal beauties. And for sexual relief we are served the 'item' girl, shown as property bought to entertain and satisfy men's sexual urges' Where is the woman who goes to work, shares a place with her boyfriend, takes public transport and goes for a drink or a movie on the weekend? In our on screen fictions, the 'modern' girl is rich enough to have a chauffeur driven car and the 'conservative' girl is so poor and pious that she doesn't need anything but a man as answers to her prayers'"

PHOTO: VIJAYANAND GUPTA "Even if films objectify women on some level, monstrous acts of such kind cannot be the result of just that. Only a sick mind can breach all levels of humanity' The real problem is not how women dress, look or speak in films or otherwise, but the mind of the man who sees them as a piece of flesh. Even in the west, women dress to be desirable in films, but the difference is that the men there are not seeing them as mere sexual objects' If a man can show off his six-pack abs almost every few months to appear more desirable, then why can't a woman wear a bikini?" Anushka Sharma

-KALKI KOECHLIN

(IN A NOTE ON FACEBOOK) "There was a time when romance was pristine between the hero and the heroine. Today, there are many films where it looks like the hero is stalking the heroine to win her affection. And audiences are cheering for it, thinking that's the best way to do it. We have thought very seriously about how we can go about changing the portrayal of women (in Bollywood). And I am sure this (change) will happen and we want to play a major role in it."

-FARHAN AKHTAR,

ACTOR/FILMMAKER

(IN AN INTERVIEW WITH A NEWS CHANNEL) "Bollywood has also glorified women in the highest possible manner through various films and characters like Mother

India and Anarkali. Why don't people take inspiration from those movies and portrayals (of women)? Why is it that only the negative side gets highlighted?"

'KARAN JOHAR, FILMMAKER

"The ad world uses females to sell everything from water coolers to deodorants. They should be questioned. Women have always been used as objects of desire'"

-MAHESH BHATT, FILMMAKER

"If films have contributed to the increasing crimes against women, then by now, everyone should have become a rapist. It all depends on the upbringing of a person. Also, as an industry, we have always been the first ones to hit out at such things personally and through our work."

-EKTA KAPOOR, FILMMAKER

"We have also shown robbers and gangsters. Does that mean we are inspiring people to be one of them? Cinema is a reflection of society. What is happening is due to lack of proper education and not cinema."

-SUBHASH GHAI, FILMMAKER

"Rape is about power and not as much about sex. But to put the blame on cinema is a tangential way of approaching the age-old problem."

-RICHA CHADHA, ACTOR

"Our women are getting stronger and independent. No field has progressed more in respecting women than the Hindi film industry."

-APOORVA LAKHIA, DIRECTOR


let's ask ekta,mahesh bhatt and salman khan...what was the need to bring sunny leone in bollywood and flaunt her to our sexually frustrated half educated young men??? is it to liberate them or titilate them?? is this the kind of progress we need for our next generation??

should we not preserve and protect out culture and social values???

why do we expect police to protect us???they are also humans...what is the big deal if they don't want to do their duty??? so many of us go to work but don't feel like working right???

why do we expect government to bring the change when we ourselves donot want contribute to the society??? i mean who wants to hear politician speak about any kind of social reforms??? so why should they even bother??? and it's easy to blame system but it's practically impossible to install security everywhere in such overpopulated country...

bollywood and media has the power to influence people in big way...if we expect a policeman who is making only 5000 a month to protect us then i think we have the right to expect our stars to behave in certain ways as they are who they are because of us audience...



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Posted: 12 years ago
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The recent gang rape case in Delhi has shaken the entire nation. People from all walks of life are coming forward to show their support to the young medical student victim who is still battling between life and death at the Safdarjung Hospital Trauma Centre.

While we hear of protests happening almost every few hours in some corner of the country, some other are showing their support via social networking. Our celebs have also joined the bandwagon.

Bollywood-ians made their anguish public on twitter:

Huma Qureshi ?@humasqureshi
I am girl.I am from Delhi.It could hav been me.Fear is not a deterrent. Only a temp sensational way of brushing aside the real issue

Dia Mirza ?@deespeak
I am ashamed. I am a part of a race that can do such harm. #sick

Priyanka Chopra @priyankachopra
It's so scary that an independent woman in her own country cannot take a bus without the fear of being attacked.. This is not just a crime against women.. It's a crime against society.. With so much being said about how women need to dress appropriately or behave appropriately.. I find this whole dialogue absurd.. A woman is not raped because She's out at night or wearing a short dress or drinking.. She's raped cause SOMEONE bloody RAPED HER!! And there is no excuse or explanation for that!! Small men who feel powerful by taking on a young girl minding her own business?! Living her beautiful life?! Why Kind of a democracy r we living in? Where a girl can't be all she is wants to be just out of fear if Man!! Is this India Shining?? Is this even India? Whr is the fear if the law? Of the Govt? It's shameful!

Deepika Padukone too echoed the sentiments of the Bollywood industry as she retweeted Farhan Akhtar and Sarita Tanwar.

Akshay Kumar suggests that self-defence should be made compulsory for school girls.
"We are praying for her (the rape victim who is critical in hospital). I hope she makes it because she has the right to live a normal life. We are going to support her in every possible way," said Kangna Ranaut, who is currently shooting for a film in Delhi. Kangna wants the authorities to provide secure environment to women.
"Even animals won't behave this way," said Amitabh Bachchan via twitter.
Kareena Kapoor and Salman Khan spoke in favour of capital punishment and said that they need faster justice to give the rapists death sentence.

Our country is a democracy, and everyone has the right to speak their mind. But as people who are known and followed throughout the world, do our celebrities not carry a social responsibility?
In some ways, it is also important for Bollywood to not provide any form of catalysts for such acts.

This year we've had our fair share of item numbers with provocative lyrics, costumes and choreography like Chikni Chameli with Katrina Kaif, Laila with Mallika Sherawat in Tezz, Balma in Khiladi 786 and Aa Re Pritam Pyare in Rowdy Rathore. Kareena Kapoor took the cake with two, "Life ki naughty kahani, ye halkat jawani" and "chipkale saiyan Fevicol se." Additionally, there have item numbers in films like Players, Jodi Breakers, Joker, Agent Vinod, Housefull 2, Dreamum Wakeapam from Aiyyaa and Dabangg 2 including lyrics like "Dil Mera Muft Ka", "Angaaron Pe Hain Armaan etc."
Full feature films including Hate Story, Kyaa Super Kool Hain Hum, Jism 2 and Raaz 3 carry much responsibility to show provocation aesthetically but do they manage to do so without influencing its audience?

This predicament is not only of this year, but has been going on for some time. Last year we had Taan ke Seena, Ho ja Kameena in Bhindi Bazaar inc., Deepika gyrating in Dum Maaro Dum, and Mallika Sherawat in Jalebi Bai and Razia Gundo Mein Phas Gayi. If we think about every item song every year, we'll lose count. So when a celebrity openly condemns law and justice yet participates in the making and showcase of songs like these with some vulgar lyrics or choreography, does it not spell hypocrisy on their part? More importantly, these songs provide fodder for objectifying women, which is the issue that we are all trying to address.

This is not just confined to films as an artform per se, but all others. But where do we draw the line between value and vulgarity? And films do not only have the responsibility to entertain, but also inform and reform.

What is your stand on this issue? What is the real role of Bollywood celebrities in this case?


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: exkkfan


let's ask ekta,mahesh bhatt and salman khan...what was the need to bring sunny leone in bollywood and flaunt her to our sexually frustrated half educated young men??? is it to liberate them or titilate them?? is this the kind of progress we need for our next generation??

should we not preserve and protect out culture and social values???

why do we expect police to protect us???they are also humans...what is the big deal if they don't want to do their duty??? so many of us go to work but don't feel like working right???

why do we expect government to bring the change when we ourselves donot want contribute to the society??? i mean who wants to hear politician speak about any kind of social reforms??? so why should they even bother??? and it's easy to blame system but it's practically impossible to install security everywhere in such overpopulated country...

bollywood and media has the power to influence people in big way...if we expect a policeman who is making only 5000 a month to protect us then i think we have the right to expect our stars to behave in certain ways as they are who they are because of us audience...


If John Locke were to answer you, he would say that we need government to provide this protection... because humans are beasts and the role of government is to protect us from one another.

A policeman isn't just anybody... he has a public post... he's not just doing a job.. he's doing a duty. Anyone who serves government is fulfilling a duty and that duty cannot be affected by how much they're making or whether they feel like working that day.

But I would say that education and law is the root of all these problems... if policemen are not educated to understand their duty... if society is not educated to understand the difference between right and wrong... and if the justice system isn't strong where people who commit crimes never go unpunished... these things will continue to happen
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But that is not the solution... don't you think that if someone wants to watch that stuff, they won't find a way?

Most of the developed world watches po*n... yet the don't go around raping people... not that rape doesn't happen in the developed world... it does...

I don't think this is the cause though... it's about respect... respecting women
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sex scenes and Item songs should be banned.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't think the rape happened due to item songs, but I think that Bollywood should start giving more respect to women!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
agree...

few years back a film was released "tridev" and there was a song called oye oye (tirchi topiwale)... the song didnt have vulgar lyrics or anything, it was a romantic song.. but only the tune oye oye was caught by many men on the streets.. they starting eve-teasing with oye oye words..

now there are many such songs.

i'm not saying that such songs should be banned but these stars should stop talking about such cases for publicity when they themselves do such songs like laundiya patenge missed call se in their songs.

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