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'Jab Tak Hai Jaan': 8 things that could have improved the film and made it immortal

Bollywood, Posted on Nov 16, 2012 at 01:54pm IST
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New Delhi: Legendary filmmaker Yash Chopra signed off with a flourish with his romantic drama 'Jab Tak Hai Jaan' - his last film before his death this year. The film has his signature courtships and nuanced complexities set in India and London.

But the film falls far short of expectations that come attached to swansongs. Chopra, who's the master of emotional dramas such as 'Kabhie Kabhie' and 'Silsila', simply fails to create a magnum opus with JTHJ. The scrutiny is greater because Shah Rukh Khan, the protagonist of the film, is back to the genre he ruled for over two decades before experimenting with science fiction and negative roles in classic remakes.

So what went wrong in 'Jab Tak Hai Jaan'? And how could the film have been a better send-off for the iconic director?

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'Jab Tak Hai Jaan' falls far short of expectations that come attached to swansongs.

Plot: For starters - the film is weighed down due to the lack of a cohesive plot. The film hinges on one women's promise to God to stay away from the man she loves for the rest of her life. It's not only far-fetched, it's downright silly. She makes that promise right after he is hit by a car. She makes her peace with Jesus Christ in the end, but not before she has wasted 10 years of her life. Shah Rukh on the other hand returns to India and enlists for the Indian Army - age be damned. The man who was shown waiting tables in London because he wasn't cut out for any specialized career, becomes the army's most coveted bomb disposal expert, to hell with logic. People expecting a tragic twist in the end were rewarded with a happy ending to the romance that waited its turn. But somehow the ending falls flat. A better screenplay would have elevated the film to another level.

Cast: There is no doubting that Shah Rukh is Indian cinema's quintessential romantic hero. He's the boss in the matters of the heart. Or he was, until age begun to mark his face with its lines and creases. His 25-year-old portrayal of a busker in London just doesn't cut it. The heroines look much younger than him and his moments with Katrina came across as stiff and awkward. An older female lead cast would have worked wonders.

Heroines: Heroines have always formed a crucial part of Yash Chopra's romances. From Rakhee to Rekha, Waheeda to Madhuri, the Chopra heroines are all about understated sensuality and elegance. Though immaculately turned out, Katrina is wooden throughout the film. She's glamorous and has perhaps scripted the best piece of percussive party dance number ever but fails to add depth to her character, making it very difficult for her audiences to feel any sympathy for her. Anushka Sharma as an over-eager intern for the Discovery Channel is much more believable. She tries to channel Kareena Kapoor in a 'Jab We Met'-type pitch to Shah Rukh, but for the most part she's annoyingly chatty and overdoes her brief.

Music: This isn't your usual AR Rahman. The maestro's magic touch is lacking and none of the songs are memorable even after months of promotion. The selection of background voice artistes is poor, because Shah Rukh and Katrina's voice do not match with them and the resulting product jars on the ears.

Different leads: Though it sounds improbable, but could Chopra have chosen different leads for his film? Though Shah Rukh makes the role his own, he does not fit into the lover-boy image at 47. Who could have worked for this role? Ranbir Kapoor would have been a good alternate choice along with

Parineeti and Priyanka Chopra.

Length: The length of Jab Tak Hai Jaan is a major issue. At 179 minutes it feels far too stretched. The editing could have been crisper.

Attention to details: A struggling Pakistani, who could not hold down a job long enough to save some money to send back home, makes it big as the manager of a posh eatery in London in 10 years' time with the help of a fist full of bank notes. A rich NRI girl falls for the busker. A reporter shoves a camera in the face of a bomb disposal squad officer while he's defusing live ammunition. The same reporter, who is supposedly an expert swimmer, plunges into a freezing Ladakh lake for a dare and almost drowns. It's the lack of attention to details that takes away half the joy from watching JTHJ.

Sex: Sex and intrigue have always been integral parts of Chopra's films. While a pair of dandelion would have sufficed in the 60s and a shot of two pairs of legs rubbing against each other in the 70s, it simply does not make the cut in 2012. Audiences are bred on much rougher stuff in films, videos and television series and the sexually loaded moments in the film fall flat.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bambogli

Cast: There is no doubting that Shah Rukh is Indian cinema's quintessential romantic hero. He's the boss in the matters of the heart. Or he was, until age begun to mark his face with its lines and creases. His 25-year-old portrayal of a busker in London just doesn't cut it. The heroines look much younger than him and his moments with Katrina came across as stiff and awkward. An older female lead cast would have worked wonders.


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so SRK and Kat doesn't have chemistry at all. they only have physics, oops mechanical😆


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Edited by hasini009 - 13 years ago
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I'm guessing since the median age in India skews younger than that in the US or UK filmmakers feel compelled to try to make everyone fit into the "young" category but was that even necessary this time?
Why could SRK not have been an army man from the first? Maybe he could be one who didn't take on a particularly dangerous job but he could have been an adult in his 30s when he meets Meera and her superstitious claptrap could have led him to take more dangerous missions.
While I don't particularly think Kat and SRK fit well, look comfortable or even seem to be two people who'd give one another the time of day in real life, surely they could have allowed her to play a fully functioning adult woman with a history---some emotional heft that make her more of a match with someone as intense as SRK can be!.
Because, seriously, she looks as if half her attention is focused on listening to music playing on her ipod or politely tolerating SRK's lovemaking attempts while wondering to herself f she left the burners on before leaving the house.
That kills SRK's schtick and makes it plain that he's acting. No matter how good a screen lover you may be, if your fellow actor seems only mildly involved it makes you look and feel OTT which can lead to trying even harder to register "charm", which lends the whole enterprise a very unromantic aura of desperate posturing.
I see two people doing, each to the best of his or her ability, what the directior told them to do----not two people uncontrolably drawn to each other.
Maybe the whole untouched by the world, rich daughter thing was unsuited to Kat and she should have played a London woman who was maybe raising a child alone, or had lost a child or something that implies life experience.
And I'm sure nothing could make you more fearful of loss or more superstitiously desirous of appeasing a capricious god than something like that.
But of course the female lead HAS TO BE a young rich "girl" never a "woman"
Again, this worked against SRK's far more mature and intense energy, nor did it really suit Kat, who doesn't seem like a naive, starry eyed girl who makes deals with god and the Easter Bunny just to prove how young and untouched she is.
YAWNSVILLE!
Anushka could have stayed an annoying, high enrgy, little pesky girl with a crush on the older man...that's fine since she and SRK have that kind of dynamic anyway. They work it well together---and the audience gets it's "youth" fix and the younger folk get to pat themselves on the back for inventng sex 😉
But no way did SRK look like a devil may care young busker in his 20s.
There were so many ways they could have gone with this and it hurts that at a time in his career when SRK needs a clear and workable new direction in his characterizations the best his long time friends could do for him was to dress him up an unconvincing 25 year old and that rather than make his "first" screen kiss an epic moment with a woman worthy of his breaking his long standing rule---a way of saying----
"Ladies & gentlemen the KING OF ROMANCE is officially ushering in the second half of his career and the new face of love in Bollywood"
They had him kiss Kat.
This moment that could have been played up as an iconic moment in the crossing over from the old conventions of Hindi love stories into the new was wasted with an actress whose raison d'etre is to look pretty and half white, but who offers little else---she especially doesn't fit as a good stand in for the billions of women in the audience who've long wondered what it would be like to see SRK take romance to the next level.
They had the perfect man, they had the perfect moment, heck they even had the perfect director but they wasted it on the wrong girl.
My little raisin deserved so much more.
Edited by youknowme - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The storyline was flawed. Too much of Ekta Kapoorishness in the movie. Deal with the God? (It's not supernatural season 5?) How did meera fall in love? Just because she sees a man singing on the streets and he tutors her, she fells for him? Didn't understand it. Too much of punjabi songs. (Not many of us know punjabi. Hindi songs would have been better).. . SRK and his wrinkles yet he played a 28 year old? Age difference was was quite noticeable. SRK's looks quite old now. (That's what excessive smoking does to ya. it's a fact).. .I had to forward 45 minutes.
Katrina's extremely pretty. Cannot comment on her acting as I do not belong to that profession. Certainly not my favourite Kat movie. I would watch Hum Ko Dewaana Ker Gaye instead. Improper choice of the leads. SRK cannot be paired with fresh blood. SRK Kajol would have been the best (assuming no flaws in the storyline). Maybe Katrina as a side role. Bomb defusing was yet another stupid plot and far from reality. Overall it was the script which was poorly directed. Even a SRK and Kajol pair wouldn't have covered for the flaws it had.


Edited by Omnipotence - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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title define its a disaster
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Posted: 13 years ago
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why 8 things ? just kick out kat and the whole movie would look much better😆
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If the pairing would have been of SRK-KAJOL-YASH...then I guess even if being Illogical the movie would have done wonders...

I mean who wont invest thier movie Srk-Kajol in YASH Chopra's Last movie...

I dont know...for me atleast Srk-Katrina pair dint really worked...Srk-Anushka had a better chemistry thou Anushka was OTT at many points ...and Katrina with only 2 famous expressions dint really impressed me...


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Originally posted by: bambogli


Sex: Sex and intrigue have always been integral parts of Chopra's films. While a pair of dandelion would have sufficed in the 60s and a shot of two pairs of legs rubbing against each other in the 70s, it simply does not make the cut in 2012. Audiences are bred on much rougher stuff in films, videos and television series and the sexually loaded moments in the film fall flat.

Aiyyo, I already feel awkward about watching JTHJ with my family with the numerous kiss and intimate scenes, and this person wants MORE. :|

No thanks, please.

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100% agree with this post...Casting issues (referring to SRK-Kat pairing) was a major problem!!
And those highly awkward Sex scenes...Oh Gosh!
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