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Good news everyone! At the suggestion of Indu, and after some deliberation, we are introducing a new system of indexing to the thread, so that it is easier to navigate. As you all know our DC has been regularly crossing 70-100 pages, and it becomes really hard for people to find what they are looking for. So Jyo and I came up with this idea:If you post/see:
1. A long analysis on the episode
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Jyo and I will keep tabs on the PMs and paste the links we get into the index of the thread as the day goes by, so we have easy access to all the big posts that sometimes get lost in the flurry of discussion!
Note, this is for everyone. That way everyone can help keep the thread organised and easily navigable. Do let me know if you have any further suggestions.
The index will be in the second post with the "Announcements and Reminders."
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Episode Analysis
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Episode Analysis
Today I did something I don't do very often, and that is read the updates as the episode was airing, just to try it out. What I found was that in writing, I was seething at Yash and thought he was being an absolute jerk, but seeing the nuances of GC and KS' performances and the underlying narrative that was being built up, when I actually watched the episode, really changed my views on the whole thing and I came to these conclusions:
Yash senses dishonesty in Aarti, but is unable to pin point exactly where that dishonesty lies, so he goes ahead and ascribes it to her entire character and all her actions.
The reason for this, according to me, is that Aarti's story has some serious loop holes. I am not blaming her at all, but I can understand how things have begun to look fishy from Yash's perspective thanks to the gaping hole that is Aarti's past. We realise that the reason for Yash not being curious about Aarti's first husband is that he assumed absolutely in every sense that she was in the same boat as him, that she and her husband had been madly in love but that he had passed away leaving her as a single parent who, though wanted to give every possible comfort to her child, did not want to love again. What Yash doesn't realise is that he was trusting, putting his faith, not in anything Aarti had expressed, but in his own assumptions about her, which he treated as absolute truths, unconditional for eternity. So he allowed himself to get closer to her and to a large extent, entrusted her with Arpita's memories. It must have struck him even then as they became friends that she did not respond in turn with her past experiences, but I assume he ascribed her silence to the idea that speaking about her past gave her too much pain, as evidenced by the one time he asked about it.
Basically, I think more than the action of making love, or all the emotionally and physically intimate moments they spent together in Mumbai, he is deeply disturbed by her inconsistency. When they got married he assumed that she was in love with her first husband. Since then, he does not know of any event that would have changed that, despite the fact that Aarti has been through so much with Prashant in a long but hidden process of falling out of love with him, and then falling in love with Yash. We all see Yash's guilt as something natural given his nature and his fastidious commitment to his marriage with Arpita, but Yash sees Aarti's guilt as something natural and the fact that she is not at all guilty is the reason that he is so shaken. So where does he draw he line? Has she "lied" to him about her feelings for her husband since the beginning of this marriage? Was she ever just in this for the kids, or did she have a plan from the day she found they were getting married?
It is not hard to see, because of what Aarti is hiding from Yash about her past and how she came to fall in love with him, why Yash would see, not only the Mumbai trip but, the entire marriage as a huge scam. After all, isn't that was his family wanted even before Aarti came on the scene? So he feels cheated in so many ways. Aarti fell in love with him and she evoked feelings in him that were reserved for Arpita. He feels an overwhelming guilt and contrary to seeing the same on her side, which would be expected, he sees her proud and defiant, insisting that what they did was not wrong. Even if he does believe that what they did wasn't wrong deep down, which I think he does, I think he expected it to be a process of guilt and reconciliation for both of them. He didn't expect Aarti to "play innocent" first and then embrace what happened between them.
Yash's register of love is still Arpita.
I concede that we may have dismissed Arpita too early from the equation and yet I believe nothing we discussed about Yash being over her is strictly wrong. Part of his guilt stems, again, not from the action of consummation itself but from the very fact that he could get over Arpita and the pain of her death. How could be be happy in the arms of another when he had promised her eternity. You have to understand that this is a man who honest to goodness believed he was incapable of falling in love again. So when he does, it is bound to send him toppling down from his self allotted pedestal. And he is still holding on to the idea that love only happens once, so if Aarti loves him that means she never loved her first husband and even scarier, if he loves Aarti, that means he never loved Arpita. It is only when he lets go of this notion that he will be able to accept his feelings for Aarti. Until then we are in for some delicious tension!
As for the resurrection of AKJ, I thought it was very telling. The feelings he feels for Aarti were meant for Arpita alone. Yash doesn't really recognise a concept of love outside of the people who invoke it. Arpita evoked feelings of love, comfort, camaraderie and desire in him, and simply because Aarti is awakening the same feelings once again, he accuses her of trying to take Arpita's place.
In a way I am happy that Yash came out with all these horrible, disparaging thoughts because we know they have been stewing inside him for a long time. When Aarti dressed up as Arpita for Palak's birthday, he simply couldn't wrap his head around the fact that he hadn't figured in the equation, that she hadn't been doing this to attract him...why? Because he was attracted to her and mistook her for Arpita. It is an interesting paradox because Yash takes responsibility for his actions but not for his feelings. They are never considered something organic, coming from within but something imposed on him by an external force. Now that these thoughts are out in the open, their ridiculousness will start to become more apparent to Yash, than when they were just sitting in his head, closed off from any criticism or question. Now that he has put them out there, Aarti can actually refute them and put him in his place!
Aarti = Dignity
That is the word I would associate with the character of Aarti today. More than GC even, I was impressed by KS' silence during the confrontation, where her expression was insulted and disgusted even, but she kept completely silent. Somewhere I think she knew that she was fighting Yash's irrational fears. There was no way her words were going to have any effect on him and so she didn't dignify what he said with a response, because honestly he didn't deserve it. What can you say when he has closed all the loopholes and answered all his own questions with base assumptions and false conclusions? But now Aarti is in a position of strength because she knows precisely what the problem is, but has not lowered herself to fighting with him before all his bitterness and spite was purged. I wouldn't be surprised if he feels differently even after this confrontation.
What I am most excited about though is the new phase of this story. What Aarti realised today is that there is really not much difference at this point between Yash and Prashant. One is not a devil and the other god, they are both men, with their strengths and weaknesses and it is up to her to fight for what she deems worthy. She sort of answered her own questions in her philosophical rant about why a woman always has to be like water and fit herself into whatever container she finds herself in because that is Aarti questioning her own journey as a wife, so far. In both her marriages, she has tried to change herself and become exactly what the man wanted; she never asserted her own pride, her own choices and her own desires further than making her man and her family happy. That is part of the problem now with Yash. She never communicated her changing desires to him, because he wanted her to be just a mother to the kids, and so he is surprised by the revelation, all of a sudden, that she is madly in love with him. He has no clue about the long arduous process she went through to get there. That is all going to change, if her conversation with Shobha was any foreshadowing. From now on, Aarti is going to be herself, and all of herself in front of Yash because if he is going to mistake her intentions, he might as well have all the information to start with.
Thankfully, I think Aarti's worship of Yash, her Mira-like devotion for him is going to change here and now. She continues to love him deeply, but has seen his flawed, weak and human side, so that love takes a more profound and meaningful definition. Yash is no longer her superhero, her rockstar, her saviour or her god...he is finally just her man.
Yash senses dishonesty in Aarti, but is unable to pin point exactly where that dishonesty lies, so he goes ahead and ascribes it to her entire character and all her actions.
The reason for this, according to me, is that Aarti's story has some serious loop holes. I am not blaming her at all, but I can understand how things have begun to look fishy from Yash's perspective thanks to the gaping hole that is Aarti's past. We realise that the reason for Yash not being curious about Aarti's first husband is that he assumed absolutely in every sense that she was in the same boat as him, that she and her husband had been madly in love but that he had passed away leaving her as a single parent who, though wanted to give every possible comfort to her child, did not want to love again. What Yash doesn't realise is that he was trusting, putting his faith, not in anything Aarti had expressed, but in his own assumptions about her, which he treated as absolute truths, unconditional for eternity. So he allowed himself to get closer to her and to a large extent, entrusted her with Arpita's memories. It must have struck him even then as they became friends that she did not respond in turn with her past experiences, but I assume he ascribed her silence to the idea that speaking about her past gave her too much pain, as evidenced by the one time he asked about it.
Basically, I think more than the action of making love, or all the emotionally and physically intimate moments they spent together in Mumbai, he is deeply disturbed by her inconsistency. When they got married he assumed that she was in love with her first husband. Since then, he does not know of any event that would have changed that, despite the fact that Aarti has been through so much with Prashant in a long but hidden process of falling out of love with him, and then falling in love with Yash. We all see Yash's guilt as something natural given his nature and his fastidious commitment to his marriage with Arpita, but Yash sees Aarti's guilt as something natural and the fact that she is not at all guilty is the reason that he is so shaken. So where does he draw he line? Has she "lied" to him about her feelings for her husband since the beginning of this marriage? Was she ever just in this for the kids, or did she have a plan from the day she found they were getting married?
It is not hard to see, because of what Aarti is hiding from Yash about her past and how she came to fall in love with him, why Yash would see, not only the Mumbai trip but, the entire marriage as a huge scam. After all, isn't that was his family wanted even before Aarti came on the scene? So he feels cheated in so many ways. Aarti fell in love with him and she evoked feelings in him that were reserved for Arpita. He feels an overwhelming guilt and contrary to seeing the same on her side, which would be expected, he sees her proud and defiant, insisting that what they did was not wrong. Even if he does believe that what they did wasn't wrong deep down, which I think he does, I think he expected it to be a process of guilt and reconciliation for both of them. He didn't expect Aarti to "play innocent" first and then embrace what happened between them.
Yash's register of love is still Arpita.
I concede that we may have dismissed Arpita too early from the equation and yet I believe nothing we discussed about Yash being over her is strictly wrong. Part of his guilt stems, again, not from the action of consummation itself but from the very fact that he could get over Arpita and the pain of her death. How could be be happy in the arms of another when he had promised her eternity. You have to understand that this is a man who honest to goodness believed he was incapable of falling in love again. So when he does, it is bound to send him toppling down from his self allotted pedestal. And he is still holding on to the idea that love only happens once, so if Aarti loves him that means she never loved her first husband and even scarier, if he loves Aarti, that means he never loved Arpita. It is only when he lets go of this notion that he will be able to accept his feelings for Aarti. Until then we are in for some delicious tension!
As for the resurrection of AKJ, I thought it was very telling. The feelings he feels for Aarti were meant for Arpita alone. Yash doesn't really recognise a concept of love outside of the people who invoke it. Arpita evoked feelings of love, comfort, camaraderie and desire in him, and simply because Aarti is awakening the same feelings once again, he accuses her of trying to take Arpita's place.
In a way I am happy that Yash came out with all these horrible, disparaging thoughts because we know they have been stewing inside him for a long time. When Aarti dressed up as Arpita for Palak's birthday, he simply couldn't wrap his head around the fact that he hadn't figured in the equation, that she hadn't been doing this to attract him...why? Because he was attracted to her and mistook her for Arpita. It is an interesting paradox because Yash takes responsibility for his actions but not for his feelings. They are never considered something organic, coming from within but something imposed on him by an external force. Now that these thoughts are out in the open, their ridiculousness will start to become more apparent to Yash, than when they were just sitting in his head, closed off from any criticism or question. Now that he has put them out there, Aarti can actually refute them and put him in his place!
Aarti = Dignity
That is the word I would associate with the character of Aarti today. More than GC even, I was impressed by KS' silence during the confrontation, where her expression was insulted and disgusted even, but she kept completely silent. Somewhere I think she knew that she was fighting Yash's irrational fears. There was no way her words were going to have any effect on him and so she didn't dignify what he said with a response, because honestly he didn't deserve it. What can you say when he has closed all the loopholes and answered all his own questions with base assumptions and false conclusions? But now Aarti is in a position of strength because she knows precisely what the problem is, but has not lowered herself to fighting with him before all his bitterness and spite was purged. I wouldn't be surprised if he feels differently even after this confrontation.
What I am most excited about though is the new phase of this story. What Aarti realised today is that there is really not much difference at this point between Yash and Prashant. One is not a devil and the other god, they are both men, with their strengths and weaknesses and it is up to her to fight for what she deems worthy. She sort of answered her own questions in her philosophical rant about why a woman always has to be like water and fit herself into whatever container she finds herself in because that is Aarti questioning her own journey as a wife, so far. In both her marriages, she has tried to change herself and become exactly what the man wanted; she never asserted her own pride, her own choices and her own desires further than making her man and her family happy. That is part of the problem now with Yash. She never communicated her changing desires to him, because he wanted her to be just a mother to the kids, and so he is surprised by the revelation, all of a sudden, that she is madly in love with him. He has no clue about the long arduous process she went through to get there. That is all going to change, if her conversation with Shobha was any foreshadowing. From now on, Aarti is going to be herself, and all of herself in front of Yash because if he is going to mistake her intentions, he might as well have all the information to start with.
Thankfully, I think Aarti's worship of Yash, her Mira-like devotion for him is going to change here and now. She continues to love him deeply, but has seen his flawed, weak and human side, so that love takes a more profound and meaningful definition. Yash is no longer her superhero, her rockstar, her saviour or her god...he is finally just her man.
...I loved the 1st AarYa confrontation because of 3 main reasons âď¸âď¸âď¸ 
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