Biological Vs. Adopted

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am back again. you guys are probably annoyed by me!😳 Sorry for that but there are some things said on this forum that have been gotten me disturbed and I have to let my feelings out. šŸ˜”
There are have been many comments on biological kids vs adopted kids. People have been saying that Archana should care for Ovi because she is her biological children.
I find that disturbing because Purvi has been with Archana for the past 18 years and now that her biological kids are back she shouldnt care for Purvi. Like i said in a previous post, It really doesn't matter if the child is biological or adopted, for a mother a child is her child. Honestly are you telling me now that Archana biological children are back in her life she should forget about her adopted daughter. It doesnt work like that in real life. A mother does what is right for everyone one. Sometimes when she makes decisions, it may end up hurting some member but at the end of day, the decision is always right. I feel that once you adopt a child and do have biological kids you should treat them equally. This is how a feel and this post is not meant to hurt anyone.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Couldn't agree with you more . It's always a war Biological Vs. Adopted . Appearantly Blood is thicker than water for some people .It's understood that Archana should support Ovi but doing that should she betray or hurt her other daughter Purvi.To me Archana is doing just what any other mother would do She's protecting both her daughters , Purvi - Making sure she is marrying the one she loves and in return he loves her to . Ovi - Making sure she does not marry someone who does not love her .

But some people don't see it that way . They are just seeing it as Archana favouring her adopted child over her own blood .


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well said and I wholeheartedly agree with your post!

Once a child is adopted or is even brought into a home that child becomes part of the family - end of story. There should be no label abut being adopted or not. When that reference is made - especially to or in front of the child - that comment is deliberately meant to belittle and disrespect that child. I find that completely unacceptable!

If parents have biological and adopted kids there should be no degree of separation - all children should be loved, cared for and disciplined equally. Parents who open their hearts and homes to other children outside of their immediate family have a tremendous responsibility to make sure that those lines of demarcation are completely erased... if not then they really have no business bringing another child into the home.

I get that Archana made mistakes with Varsha/Soham but she didn't she do a good job with Sachin before Soham came along? Would the argument then be reversed as Savita suggested to Manav - Archana only cared for her biological son and not her adopted son which is why Savita had to resort to those measures? It came back around full circle, didn't it?

I have no doubt that Archana loves all three of her daughters the same. She may yearn for Ovi and Teju more - not because they are her biological daughters but she's been away from them for so long and lost out on so many opportunities.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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There should be no difference between children-biological or adopted. Just like neglecting an adopted child in favor of a biological child is wrong; so is overcompensating by favoring the adopted child over the biological. Archana clearly favors Purvi over ovi and teju-- there is absolutely no doubt about that. That she should stop Ovi from marrying arjun is fine; but getting arjun and purvi married right now is not. In fact, as a mom, she should stay out of it-- favoring neither her biological daughter nor her adopted daughter. But here, she's clearly supporting one over the other and not just that, rubbing it in her biological daughter's face. What's the hurry for arjun and pruvi to marry right now? They are both very young, 19-21 years of age. Manav and family including Ovi will leave to canada once the divorce is finalized. Its only been 2 months since arjun ditched ovi. So why is archana in such a hurry to get purvi married to arjun? Is there any valid reason at all? Nope, not one. So please, this show's not about archana favoring her biological children over adopted. It's the other way round and that's the problem-- there should not be any bias or favor at all. They should all be equal to her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Actually the show is about instigating drama and increasing viewership not really caring about the relationships that get sullied, bulldozed or even destroyed in the process... so all our discussions about the character's POVs are just merely a time pass for all of us. Biological or adopted - its just semantics šŸ˜†

I agree with you that Archana's love should be equal among her all children and that the marriage should wait because of the sensitivity of the issue but if they don't hurry along with these tracks Manav/Archana will be 80 before they get a divorce and the kids married off šŸ˜†

How would one suggest Archana help Ovi through this? The girl has insulted her every chance she could get - in private and in public - and Archana took it all because she's feels guilty about the lives they've led without her. Her daughters have no respect for her and how could they with they way they were raised and with their own fears/rejections never hashed out?

Archana is trying to make Ovi face reality by showing up with the card and yes, it could have been handled a little more tactfully, but the effect would have still been the same - like dashing cold water on Ovi's face - because she could not get what she wanted.

Ovi was happy when Archana came in because Ovi knows how much Archana loves them and yearns to be with her family - both girls are not blind to this fact. Ovi thought that she had manipulated and emotionally blackmailed Archana into giving her what she wanted which is why she was so distraught when her plan failed.

Do you think her daughter, Ovi would have made good on her end of the bargain if Archana was foolish enough to indulge her?

For those that believe that Archana favors Purvi, what would you suggest she do to bring or show her love for all three girls on par with each other? I'm curious.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I never post, but I had to post this one. Archana is a great adopted mother but a horrible, absolutely horrible biological mother. The point is not that she is being a good adopted mother, the point is that she is being a horrible biological mother. Her biological children hate her. I was excited for their reunion and now all my excitement is gone. She truly does not deserve them. I am sort of glad they were taken away now.

Your mother is your most compassionate companion. Your pain must hurt her the most. At least that's what my mom tells me and when I am hurt she acts like my pain hurts her more than it hurts me. Archana has not done much to win Teju and Ovi over, her tears don't mean much. As you guys said a mother must be fair, then on what standard has Archana been fair to her biological daughters?

Arjun is not her toy so it's not like she can take Arjun away from Purvi and give it to Ovi, but what she could've done was to show more compassion toward Ovi. If she a "sensible" women has lived 18 years without Manav and still held on to him, then Ovi is an immature girl who barely has a clue about the realities of life. She let Purvi be with Arjun, fine! But she should have been more understanding towards Ovi. She should've tried to connect with her. Why does Arjun Purvi need to get married right away? Ovi can barely fathom losing Arjun, now she has to watch and hear about him getting married? Which brave person in this forum thinks she can hold it together if their loved one got married right in front of their eyes. Ovi's case was also special because she was about to marry him, had her life planned and within a second it was taken away from her. She didn't even have time to process this thing. If a situation like this hurts us mature, reasonable people how would it effect a spoiled, obsessive girl like Ovi? Why does Archana need to be so insensitive and down right selfish and invite Manav's family? Who wants to go? No one!!!! Yet she wants to establish, and hurt other people because of her values. What are these values worth if it only hurts people? Which mother hurts their own daughters? A mother who does not deserve to be a mother. I want to slap her when she drags Manav into this whole thing. Ovi hates Purvi, because of her mahanta Ovi has had only one parent in life and that is Manav. She lost the love of her life to Purvi, she does not need to share Manav with Purvi. She shouldn't have to. Purvi is Archana's daughter, not Manav's. Manav has already been too kind to them.

Then comes Arjun himself. Of course he is our hero, so he can't do anything wrong for our fans who love seeing "love" onscreen. Let's just overlook the fact that if anything like that happened to any girl in real life, the guy would be considered a pig. Archana acted like neither of her daughters deserved to be with him, but after her silly test all of a sudden Arjun can be with Purvi. My mother would have never let any boy who did that to me around me. I am not a mother but I treat my younger sister like my daughter and I would not let any guy who has cheated my daughters like that around them. Even if I thought that the guy couldn't come out because of "majbooris" and bad timing, I could not get over the pain my loved ones suffered because of him. I could not and would not let that guy get close to any of my daughters. Archana once again is a horrible mother because she completely overlooked the fact that this guy has hurt her daughter Ovi. She was angry because this guy cheated her daughter"S". She overlooks the fact that because of this guy her daughter is in a bad state.

I don't think people here try to insult Purvi by saying she is a adopted daughter so she must mean less than a biological daughter. What they want to stress is Archana is a horrible mother because she disrespects the gift God gave her, her own biological daughters. She constantly says Purvi is a gift, Purvi is a gift, Teju and Ovi are also gifts. Your own biological children are the biggest blessings in life, and she insults them both.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Axiom

Actually the show is about instigating drama and increasing viewership not really caring about the relationships that get sullied, bulldozed or even destroyed in the process... so all our discussions about the character's POVs are just merely a time pass for all of us. Biological or adopted - its just semantics šŸ˜†


I agree with you that Archana's love should be equal among her all children and that the marriage should wait because of the sensitivity of the issue but if they don't hurry along with these tracks Manav/Archana will be 80 before they get a divorce and the kids married off šŸ˜†

Yeah, but see, we can't say ovi's delusional and hasn't accepted that arjun didn't love her when she was actually fine before the kidnap drama-- she didn't obsess about him all the time and even tried to start modeling again--basically showing that she was trying to move on. But hen, she was made hysterical again to suit the storyline after the kidnap. Either way, we can blame everything on the CVs and nothing on the characters at all. Or we should just take the story and the characters the way they're written, and discuss about them as if they were the character's actions and not the CV's.

How would one suggest Archana help Ovi through this? The girl has insulted her every chance she could get - in private and in public - and Archana took it all because she's feels guilty about the lives they've led without her. Her daughters have no respect for her and how could they with they way they were raised and with their own fears/rejections never hashed out?

By not getting involved at all! By telling Ovi firmly over and over again that yes, Arjun is not good for you, but not by adding that he's good for purvi. If she has to get involved due to some unfathomable reason and had to get arjun and purvi married right away; then she should stop telling about each of the rasams happening in the wedding and making a drama of inviting Ovi and the Deshmukhs for "farz"". If, for some reason, Arjun-purvi marriage has to happen right now; it has to be a completely quiet affair thus respecting the pain of the Deshmukhs. Is this wedding anything but quiet? Purvi's mama and mami who will probably do her kanyadaan since archana can't do it by herself didnt get invited; but the Deshmukhs were personally invited by sulochana and archana. That's not foolishness or tough love. That's coldness and insensitivity.

Archana is trying to make Ovi face reality by showing up with the card and yes, it could have been more tactfully, but the effect would have still been the same - like dashing cold water on Ovi's face - because she could not get what she wanted.

Yes, we all saw what the effect was of archana's attempt to make ovi face "the harsh reality". She tried slitting her wrists, it may have been a drama or it may have been real. Either way, it could have gone terribly wrong. And while we will probably disagree on whether it was drama, I don't think it was. She did it silently, she did not make a scene before or after and she forbid punni from contacting her again. Doesn't seem to me like a cold-minded person doing careful planning. More like a desperate girl who tried something someone with a more diabolical mind told would work.

When a child who knows no better keeps trying to touch the hot stove, you don't let the child continue doing it until he/she learns the lesson. But neither do you put their hands on the stove yourself so that they can learn the lesson once and for all. What you do is remove the stove from the reach of the child until he/she learns that it's a bad idea. This analogy fits perfectly in this context. Ovi's an adult, but she's still very young and immature; and doesn't know and cannot understand right now that arjun isn't right for her. It's the responsibility of her family to make her understand that, and keep arjun and purvi out of her life until she does. Archana doesn't need to make her understand anything, that's manav's job and responsibility. What archana needs to do is keep arjun and purvi's topic out of the deshmukh household until ovi gets over arjun or she leaves to canada with her family where she won't be seeing them or hearing about them constantly.

Ovi was happy when Archana came in because Ovi knows how much Archana loves them and yearns to be with her family - both girls are not blind to this fact. Ovi thought that she had manipulated and emotionally blackmailed Archana into giving her what she wanted which is why she was so distraught when her plan failed.

I don't think ovi knows that archana secretly loves them; what she told archana was based on what punni told her that archana's greatest wish was to reunite with her family. Which archana showed it wasn't when she came along with the invitation card. They may feel it and they may be confused about it. But what they know for sure is that she's divorcing her dad for money-her words; she let them go when they were babies and did not try to contact them; and now she's firmly taken purvi's side over ovi's with the acceptance and hurried marriage.

Do you think her daughter, Ovi would have made good on her end of the bargain if Archana was foolish enough to indulge her?

I think she would have. Her tears and her plea to archana were not just a bargain; she could have done that with a straight face. Just coldly telling her in a no-nonsense tone that if she gave her arjun, she would give archana her family. That was the deal, wasn't it? Instead, along with asking for arjun it was an emotional plea for her to rejoin her family. She very clearly included archana with her dad, sachu, savita and teju leaving out purvi and sulochana; like a child who had missed her mom and wanted her mom to herself without sharing her with anyone else.

For those that believe that Archana favors Purvi, what would you suggest she do to bring orshow her love for all three girls on par with each other? I'm curious.

For now, postpone the marriage immediately and tell both arjun and purvi to back off from manav. She has already accepted their relation, so that ship has sailed. But they're both very young and if they're truly committed, they can wait for a few more months to get hitched and get to know each other better in the meantime-- they have only known each other for a few months. Archana can concentrate on telling the truth, or not, to her family-- either way, she needs to start making serious amends not caring about what her daughters or savita have to say on the subject.
Get her daughters and sachu to understand she didn't want to leave them, it was circumstances at the time; and she was going to divorce manav because she thought that's what they all wanted. But whether they want her around or not, she's not going anywhere.


Edited by sowmya_jairam - 13 years ago
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Completely agree with u. Once u adopted a child than there should nt b any discussion of biological nd adopted.

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Originally posted by: Perfangel5655

I never post, but I had to post this one. Archana is a great adopted mother but a horrible, absolutely horrible biological mother. The point is not that she is being a good adopted mother, the point is that she is being a horrible biological mother. Her biological children hate her. I was excited for their reunion and now all my excitement is gone. She truly does not deserve them. I am sort of glad they were taken away now.


Your mother is your most compassionate companion. Your pain must hurt her the most. At least that's what my mom tells me and when I am hurt she acts like my pain hurts her more than it hurts me. Archana has not done much to win Teju and Ovi over, her tears don't mean much. As you guys said a mother must be fair, then on what standard has Archana been fair to her biological daughters?

Arjun is not her toy so it's not like she can take Arjun away from Purvi and give it to Ovi, but what she could've done was to show more compassion toward Ovi. If she a "sensible" women has lived 18 years without Manav and still held on to him, then Ovi is an immature girl who barely has a clue about the realities of life. She let Purvi be with Arjun, fine! But she should have been more understanding towards Ovi. She should've tried to connect with her. Why does Arjun Purvi need to get married right away? Ovi can barely fathom losing Arjun, now she has to watch and hear about him getting married? Which brave person in this forum thinks she can hold it together if their loved one got married right in front of their eyes. Ovi's case was also special because she was about to marry him, had her life planned and within a second it was taken away from her. She didn't even have time to process this thing. If a situation like this hurts us mature, reasonable people how would it effect a spoiled, obsessive girl like Ovi? Why does Archana need to be so insensitive and down right selfish and invite Manav's family? Who wants to go? No one!!!! Yet she wants to establish, and hurt other people because of her values. What are these values worth if it only hurts people? Which mother hurts their own daughters? A mother who does not deserve to be a mother. I want to slap her when she drags Manav into this whole thing. Ovi hates Purvi, because of her mahanta Ovi has had only one parent in life and that is Manav. She lost the love of her life to Purvi, she does not need to share Manav with Purvi. She shouldn't have to. Purvi is Archana's daughter, not Manav's. Manav has already been too kind to them.

Then comes Arjun himself. Of course he is our hero, so he can't do anything wrong for our fans who love seeing "love" onscreen. Let's just overlook the fact that if anything like that happened to any girl in real life, the guy would be considered a pig. Archana acted like neither of her daughters deserved to be with him, but after her silly test all of a sudden Arjun can be with Purvi. My mother would have never let any boy who did that to me around me. I am not a mother but I treat my younger sister like my daughter and I would not let any guy who has cheated my daughters like that around them. Even if I thought that the guy couldn't come out because of "majbooris" and bad timing, I could not get over the pain my loved ones suffered because of him. I could not and would not let that guy get close to any of my daughters. Archana once again is a horrible mother because she completely overlooked the fact that this guy has hurt her daughter Ovi. She was angry because this guy cheated her daughter"S". She overlooks the fact that because of this guy her daughter is in a bad state.

I don't think people here try to insult Purvi by saying she is a adopted daughter so she must mean less than a biological daughter. What they want to stress is Archana is a horrible mother because she disrespects the gift God gave her, her own biological daughters. She constantly says Purvi is a gift, Purvi is a gift, Teju and Ovi are also gifts. Your own biological children are the biggest blessings in life, and she insults them both.



Loved your post!
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Thank you for taking the time to respond. You've brought up some excellent points. Please see my responses in blue 😊



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