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Hello fellow Arshi fans:

Hello everyone, we are Rashdah and Pepper and together we are Arshi Advocates. We wanted to put forward our theory
of the Redemption Track for Arnav to win Khushi back, as we see it laid out by
the creatives based on what we have seen in the show so far:


Every one of us has our own idea
of what the redemption track for Arnav should be and what we want to see in the
redemption track. However there has to
be a pattern, a goal, a way that this redemption track takes place and reaches
its conclusion. How many have ever
thought of that. In other words what
does Arnav have to atone for, or redeem himself for, repent for, what is it
that he has to restore back to Khushi?
How have the creatives planned out this redemption track of Arnav? What is it that they are making him repent
for and restore back to Khushi? They
have provided the answers if we just look in there. And the theory is tied in to the Diwali
Episode when Arnav guided Khushi out of those circles of diyas that she had
been trapped in and could not get out on her own.


When we saw the episode in the
Gupta House wherein we saw a lot of the similar scenes from the Diwali episode,
we wondered why we saw the reverse of all of those scenes except the diyas
scene. And it made us go back and take a
look at that picture and what we saw were the rings of all the diyas
surrounding Khushi reminded us of Chakravyuh.
In order to understand what we are talking about let us first start with
a little bit of information about the Chakravyuh. Well the word Chakravyuh means rings or
circles of formations. Chakravyuh was first
introduced in one of the greatest Hindu Epic, the Mahabharata, where Guru Drona
used this to trap Abhimanyu (son of Arjun) and to kill him. In that epic tale, Abhimanyu knew how to
penetrate the Chakravyuh, but did not know the way to get out. He had heard
part of the strategy while still in his mother's womb, and because his mother
fell asleep listening to it, was only able to hear how to penetrate, but not
how to get out of it. For more on this
please read up on the Mahabharata through Wikipedia.


Getting back to IPKKND, well that
circles of diyas in that Diwali episode were representative of the circles or
rings of formations. Khushi was at the
center of them, and she tried a few times but could not get herself out of
them. Arnav had to go in there and lead
her out. Now how is this associated with
Anav's redemption track? To that end let
us first start with the fact that there were six rings or circles of diyas in
that scene. Arnav was the one who
trapped Khushi in this Chakravyuh and so he is the only one who can lead her
out. No matter how much Khushi tries she cannot get out of this herself, as
this is not of her making, and not in her control. This is about Khushi's inner
struggles with the fact of trying to do everything herself.


Well now we will lay out what
each of those rings or circles represented.
The six rings or circles are Life, Dignity, Love/Heart, Status, Family
and Reputation, and are listed here in the order that we are seeing them in. These are the major aspects of a Human Being
of Humanity. These are the aspects that
Arnav took away, or denied Khushi. We
will cover how each and every one of these are represented in the show and how
many he has restored to Khushi to date and which ones are still left:




1. Life: He placed her life in jeopardy when he sent
Khushi to the guesthouse where she almost lost her life. This loop was actually closed during the
kidnapping track. When Khushi went over
the edge of the cliff and Arnav rescued her from the tree branch where she had
fallen, he brought her back on safe ground and tried reviving her by cpr, mouth
to mouth resuscitation but neither worked.
He remembered telling her that they both were one and that their
heartbeats were one. He took her hand
and placed it above is heart. And that
is when he was able to revive her, giving back her life to her. It was because of him that her life was in
danger and later on he saved her life.
Here is the first circle or ring that has been crossed or passed over,
on the way out of the Chakravyuh.




2. Dignity: He took her dignity in the very first episode
when he broke the pearl string of her blouse, and after which she released her
hair to cover her back. This one the
creatives showed as being restored back to her in a round-about way. They showed us Khushi dreaming Arnav gifting
and putting on her a string of pearls.
Khushi never told Arnav about that dream, but to her, her dignity is
very crucial and while she never told Arnav about this, she dreamed of his
restoring her dignity back to her. Her
dream was fulfilled in the Rakshabandhan episode when he gifted her with the
pearl necklace. When she saw the pearl
necklace, she remembered her dream, which we saw in flashback. In the episode when we saw her dreaming
this, this dream was triggered by her seeing the pearls falling from the closet
and scattering over the floor, when she was trying to put the clothes away in
the closet. So the dignity has been
restored and and the second ring or circle has been crossed on the way out of
the Chakravyuh.




3. Love/Heart: On that Diwali night he had broken her heart,
when he got engaged to Lavanya and denied love by saying that these things do
not matter after almost kissing her. In
the episode at the Gupta House, when he confronts her about leaving him, she
returns the favor by breaking his heart, by refusing to return and denying love
by saying that these things do not matter, and that their marriage was not a
marriage but a deal. This is the third
ring or circle crossed or passed over on the way out of the Chakravyuh.




4. Status: Well he married her but denied her the status
of his wife in front of family and friends.
No one was present to witness their wedding except Devi Maiyaa. Even in RM, he never stopped Mami from
calling her "Phati Sari" which is not exactly a term of endearment, or made her
feel like it is her home, or that she is welcome over there. He never kept her informed of his comings and
goings or what he was doing. Even to the
point that his trip to London, Khushi found out from Anjali and that also after
he had left for the airport. This is not
so easy to restore. In recent episodes,
especially with the advent of Daadi, we see him making all efforts to restore
to her the status of his wife to Khushi.
To date he has told Daadi twice that she is his wife and as such a
member of the family and deserving of the respect due her as his wife. So far he has not made many inroads into
crossing this ring or circle. Daadi is
one who is very determined to not accept Khushi into the family, and will
create more obstacles in Arnav's path.
This is what is being played out right now. It is yet to be seen how he crosses this ring
or circle of the Chakravyuh, or if he even is able to cross it. This is where we are in Arnav's redemption track
as it relates to Khushi.




5. Family:
Arnav had taken this away, when he forced her to marry her the way he did in
the temple with no witnesses and no pheras, just the mangalsutra and the
sindoor, and then forbidden her to tell anyone about the true reason for their
half wedding and the six month contract.
That night Khushi lost her family again, and for the second time in her
life she became an orphan. This is what
she told him that night. He had not even
dreamt or thought of this consequence to his actions, which at the time was
portrayed in his shocked expression when Khushi said it.




While we saw in
the Holi episode how everyone from both families forgave Khushi for this
elopement/wedding transgression, the point here is that it is not her
transgression and as such there is no question of forgiveness for Khushi. We don't see this as her having her family
back. That might explain the distance
still there between Payal and Khushi who have been shown to share such a close
relationship before their marriage.
Arnav still has to restore to Khushi her family. This will only happen when all the details of
this wedding are revealed; including the six month contract as well as his
blackmailing her with Payal and Aakash's wedding to force her to agree to the
six month contract and for the elopement/temple wedding without any family or
witnesses and pheras. It will be
interesting to note how all these details will come out. We do believe that this is the next ring or
circle that will have to be crossed or passed over in getting out of the
Chakravyuh.




6. Reputation: Khushi's reputation was placed in jeopardy
when he forced her into the six month contract marriage. She will lose her reputation when the six
month contract is revealed to the society.
And much as they try to hide it and move on, it will come out. One little incident can set the ball rolling
which can cause this to come out.
Khushi's reputation will be restored when there is a grand wedding for
Arnav and Khushi for their remarriage.
This is the last ring or circle of the Chakravyuh to be crossed or
passed over. However this one cannot happen
until Arnav crosses the status ring or circle and the family ring or circle. Once this is crossed, Arnav and Khushi have
made it out of the Chakravyuh.




This is how the creatives have
laid out Arnav's redemption track. While
in the Mahabharat Drona's Chakravyuh had seven rings or circles, our team has
used the concept of Chakravyuh with 6 rings or circles. They have decided to put their own spin on
it. So while we might not see him making
up for every little thing that Arnav did, that we want to see, it is not those
that are important but these six aspects.
These are what Arnav has to make up for or atone for. And whether Khushi forgave him or not, is not
an issue as this is required by God and one cannot get away with snatching even
one or any of these from another human being.


Additionally, just because Khushi
forgave him does not mean that she has forgotten. While she might not say anything to him, does
not mean that she does not want these restored to her. She is very insecure right now as she had
lost it all, and was left with absolutely nothing. By restoring these back to her is the only
way that Arnav can fight and hope to get rid of her insecurities. Make her feel like she belongs somewhere and
that her rightful place is by his side throughout their lifetimes. That she is deserving of all that he can give
her and shower upon her most importantly his love and care.


Once this has been achieved they
will be together and will be inseparable, and able to meet all their obstacles
in life head on together, including the biggest battle of all against
Skunky. They have to be united in order
to successfully wage a war and win against Skunky. As we have seen that Arnav has overcome three
of the six circles or rings and is currently in the process of surpassing the
fourth ring or circle. We do believe
that this one and the fifth ring or circle, are the two toughest ones in this
Chakravyuh.


Furthermore, please note that the
redemption for the rest of the families cannot start until Arnav reaches the
sixth ring or circle. Only when all the
details of this six month contract marriage are disclosed to both the families
can they repent for their behavior towards Khushi and their treatment of
her. How those will be done and whether
all at once or not, is something to be seen.


Additionally, please note that
there will be one for Skunky as well.
Now before you all go crazy and are ready to throw eggs and tomatoes at
us, we are not saying that he will be shown as being redeemed, however he will
have a redemption track for his sins that he committed against Anjali. We do believe that his redemption started
when the confrontation took place and he was thrown out of RM. But his has barely just started and will be
interesting to see. At this point we do
not know how his redemption track has been planned out by the creatives, but we
might be able to figure out in the coming weeks.




There are plenty of theories out
there that are floating around about the storyline and/or plot right now, and
we are silent on those at this time, because we are still working on one or two
aspects of what we think the storyline or the plot is from here on. Please do note in the meantime we are seeing
the old ASR coming to the fore to stand against Daadi right now and please let
us all just sit back, relax and enjoy this show.


We have written this theory based
on our observations of the Redemption Track which has already started in the
show, and in fact in the middle presently, to explain to viewers what to look
for when they are looking for Arnav's redemption track in the show.






We will finally leave you with the following poem, which
while definitely portrays Arnav's feelings, can also, portray Khushi's feelings
as well:


"Sorry" by Whitestar




I love you so very much,

Even thou at times I do things that hurt,

I try so hard to hope that you always see,

How much you being in my life means to me,

I am sorry yet again for causing you pain,

that is the last thing I ever wanted to do,

Even when I am trying to look out for you and do the right thing

I mess up, I am sorry for that too.

I hope that you still know how much I love and cherish you,

Like nothing else in my life gives me the trill of being loved by you.

So I hope that you listen and see it in my eyes,

this sincere apology that comes with tears from deep inside.










The question for this
view, will be based around the Chakravyuh.
DO YOU AGREE WITH WHAT WE HAVE SAID? YES OR NO. PLEASE ALSO TELL US
WHY. FURTHERMORE, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER YOU THINK ARNAV HAS
REDEEMED HIMSELF OR STILL NEEDS TO REDEEM HIMSELF.
Do give
us your reasons and suggestions for further redemption tracks; they can be as
sexy as you want them!






Till the next time'


AA

Disclaimer: Please note that this is not meant to be copied or pasted elsewhere, without our express permission.
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Wow, Very unusual post, liked it!
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you guys write in myedunya. i always read your posts there though i don't comment because i don't get the system in myedunya. loved your post.

could you read mine?
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👏Hello AA, thank you for an amazing post. Truly enjoyable read and wonderful themes to explain. Plenty of fodder for thought here. Keep posting. Love MS 👏
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AA...Yes ASR is redeeming himself and he is doing it in ASR style. What more do we need?😉
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Originally posted by: 11714daughter

Hello fellow Arshi fans:

Hello everyone, we are Rashdah and Pepper and together we are Arshi Advocates. We wanted to put forward our theory
of the Redemption Track for Arnav to win Khushi back, as we see it laid out by
the creatives based on what we have seen in the show so far:


Every one of us has our own idea
of what the redemption track for Arnav should be and what we want to see in the
redemption track. However there has to
be a pattern, a goal, a way that this redemption track takes place and reaches
its conclusion. How many have ever
thought of that. In other words what
does Arnav have to atone for, or redeem himself for, repent for, what is it
that he has to restore back to Khushi?
How have the creatives planned out this redemption track of Arnav? What is it that they are making him repent
for and restore back to Khushi? They
have provided the answers if we just look in there. And the theory is tied in to the Diwali
Episode when Arnav guided Khushi out of those circles of diyas that she had
been trapped in and could not get out on her own.


When we saw the episode in the
Gupta House wherein we saw a lot of the similar scenes from the Diwali episode,
we wondered why we saw the reverse of all of those scenes except the diyas
scene. And it made us go back and take a
look at that picture and what we saw were the rings of all the diyas
surrounding Khushi reminded us of Chakravyuh.
In order to understand what we are talking about let us first start with
a little bit of information about the Chakravyuh. Well the word Chakravyuh means rings or
circles of formations. Chakravyuh was first
introduced in one of the greatest Hindu Epic, the Mahabharata, where Guru Drona
used this to trap Abhimanyu (son of Arjun) and to kill him. In that epic tale, Abhimanyu knew how to
penetrate the Chakravyuh, but did not know the way to get out. He had heard
part of the strategy while still in his mother's womb, and because his mother
fell asleep listening to it, was only able to hear how to penetrate, but not
how to get out of it. For more on this
please read up on the Mahabharata through Wikipedia.


Getting back to IPKKND, well that
circles of diyas in that Diwali episode were representative of the circles or
rings of formations. Khushi was at the
center of them, and she tried a few times but could not get herself out of
them. Arnav had to go in there and lead
her out. Now how is this associated with
Anav's redemption track? To that end let
us first start with the fact that there were six rings or circles of diyas in
that scene. Arnav was the one who
trapped Khushi in this Chakravyuh and so he is the only one who can lead her
out. No matter how much Khushi tries she cannot get out of this herself, as
this is not of her making, and not in her control. This is about Khushi's inner
struggles with the fact of trying to do everything herself.


Well now we will lay out what
each of those rings or circles represented.
The six rings or circles are Life, Dignity, Love/Heart, Status, Family
and Reputation, and are listed here in the order that we are seeing them in. These are the major aspects of a Human Being
of Humanity. These are the aspects that
Arnav took away, or denied Khushi. We
will cover how each and every one of these are represented in the show and how
many he has restored to Khushi to date and which ones are still left:




1. Life: He placed her life in jeopardy when he sent
Khushi to the guesthouse where she almost lost her life. This loop was actually closed during the
kidnapping track. When Khushi went over
the edge of the cliff and Arnav rescued her from the tree branch where she had
fallen, he brought her back on safe ground and tried reviving her by cpr, mouth
to mouth resuscitation but neither worked.
He remembered telling her that they both were one and that their
heartbeats were one. He took her hand
and placed it above is heart. And that
is when he was able to revive her, giving back her life to her. It was because of him that her life was in
danger and later on he saved her life.
Here is the first circle or ring that has been crossed or passed over,
on the way out of the Chakravyuh.




2. Dignity: He took her dignity in the very first episode
when he broke the pearl string of her blouse, and after which she released her
hair to cover her back. This one the
creatives showed as being restored back to her in a round-about way. They showed us Khushi dreaming Arnav gifting
and putting on her a string of pearls.
Khushi never told Arnav about that dream, but to her, her dignity is
very crucial and while she never told Arnav about this, she dreamed of his
restoring her dignity back to her. Her
dream was fulfilled in the Rakshabandhan episode when he gifted her with the
pearl necklace. When she saw the pearl
necklace, she remembered her dream, which we saw in flashback. In the episode when we saw her dreaming
this, this dream was triggered by her seeing the pearls falling from the closet
and scattering over the floor, when she was trying to put the clothes away in
the closet. So the dignity has been
restored and and the second ring or circle has been crossed on the way out of
the Chakravyuh.




3. Love/Heart: On that Diwali night he had broken her heart,
when he got engaged to Lavanya and denied love by saying that these things do
not matter after almost kissing her. In
the episode at the Gupta House, when he confronts her about leaving him, she
returns the favor by breaking his heart, by refusing to return and denying love
by saying that these things do not matter, and that their marriage was not a
marriage but a deal. This is the third
ring or circle crossed or passed over on the way out of the Chakravyuh.




4. Status: Well he married her but denied her the status
of his wife in front of family and friends.
No one was present to witness their wedding except Devi Maiyaa. Even in RM, he never stopped Mami from
calling her "Phati Sari" which is not exactly a term of endearment, or made her
feel like it is her home, or that she is welcome over there. He never kept her informed of his comings and
goings or what he was doing. Even to the
point that his trip to London, Khushi found out from Anjali and that also after
he had left for the airport. This is not
so easy to restore. In recent episodes,
especially with the advent of Daadi, we see him making all efforts to restore
to her the status of his wife to Khushi.
To date he has told Daadi twice that she is his wife and as such a
member of the family and deserving of the respect due her as his wife. So far he has not made many inroads into
crossing this ring or circle. Daadi is
one who is very determined to not accept Khushi into the family, and will
create more obstacles in Arnav's path.
This is what is being played out right now. It is yet to be seen how he crosses this ring
or circle of the Chakravyuh, or if he even is able to cross it. This is where we are in Arnav's redemption track
as it relates to Khushi.




5. Family:
Arnav had taken this away, when he forced her to marry her the way he did in
the temple with no witnesses and no pheras, just the mangalsutra and the
sindoor, and then forbidden her to tell anyone about the true reason for their
half wedding and the six month contract.
That night Khushi lost her family again, and for the second time in her
life she became an orphan. This is what
she told him that night. He had not even
dreamt or thought of this consequence to his actions, which at the time was
portrayed in his shocked expression when Khushi said it.




While we saw in
the Holi episode how everyone from both families forgave Khushi for this
elopement/wedding transgression, the point here is that it is not her
transgression and as such there is no question of forgiveness for Khushi. We don't see this as her having her family
back. That might explain the distance
still there between Payal and Khushi who have been shown to share such a close
relationship before their marriage.
Arnav still has to restore to Khushi her family. This will only happen when all the details of
this wedding are revealed; including the six month contract as well as his
blackmailing her with Payal and Aakash's wedding to force her to agree to the
six month contract and for the elopement/temple wedding without any family or
witnesses and pheras. It will be
interesting to note how all these details will come out. We do believe that this is the next ring or
circle that will have to be crossed or passed over in getting out of the
Chakravyuh.




6. Reputation: Khushi's reputation was placed in jeopardy
when he forced her into the six month contract marriage. She will lose her reputation when the six
month contract is revealed to the society.
And much as they try to hide it and move on, it will come out. One little incident can set the ball rolling
which can cause this to come out.
Khushi's reputation will be restored when there is a grand wedding for
Arnav and Khushi for their remarriage.
This is the last ring or circle of the Chakravyuh to be crossed or
passed over. However this one cannot happen
until Arnav crosses the status ring or circle and the family ring or circle. Once this is crossed, Arnav and Khushi have
made it out of the Chakravyuh.




This is how the creatives have
laid out Arnav's redemption track. While
in the Mahabharat Drona's Chakravyuh had seven rings or circles, our team has
used the concept of Chakravyuh with 6 rings or circles. They have decided to put their own spin on
it. So while we might not see him making
up for every little thing that Arnav did, that we want to see, it is not those
that are important but these six aspects.
These are what Arnav has to make up for or atone for. And whether Khushi forgave him or not, is not
an issue as this is required by God and one cannot get away with snatching even
one or any of these from another human being.


Additionally, just because Khushi
forgave him does not mean that she has forgotten. While she might not say anything to him, does
not mean that she does not want these restored to her. She is very insecure right now as she had
lost it all, and was left with absolutely nothing. By restoring these back to her is the only
way that Arnav can fight and hope to get rid of her insecurities. Make her feel like she belongs somewhere and
that her rightful place is by his side throughout their lifetimes. That she is deserving of all that he can give
her and shower upon her most importantly his love and care.


Once this has been achieved they
will be together and will be inseparable, and able to meet all their obstacles
in life head on together, including the biggest battle of all against
Skunky. They have to be united in order
to successfully wage a war and win against Skunky. As we have seen that Arnav has overcome three
of the six circles or rings and is currently in the process of surpassing the
fourth ring or circle. We do believe
that this one and the fifth ring or circle, are the two toughest ones in this
Chakravyuh.


Furthermore, please note that the
redemption for the rest of the families cannot start until Arnav reaches the
sixth ring or circle. Only when all the
details of this six month contract marriage are disclosed to both the families
can they repent for their behavior towards Khushi and their treatment of
her. How those will be done and whether
all at once or not, is something to be seen.


Additionally, please note that
there will be one for Skunky as well.
Now before you all go crazy and are ready to throw eggs and tomatoes at
us, we are not saying that he will be shown as being redeemed, however he will
have a redemption track for his sins that he committed against Anjali. We do believe that his redemption started
when the confrontation took place and he was thrown out of RM. But his has barely just started and will be
interesting to see. At this point we do
not know how his redemption track has been planned out by the creatives, but we
might be able to figure out in the coming weeks.




There are plenty of theories out
there that are floating around about the storyline and/or plot right now, and
we are silent on those at this time, because we are still working on one or two
aspects of what we think the storyline or the plot is from here on. Please do note in the meantime we are seeing
the old ASR coming to the fore to stand against Daadi right now and please let
us all just sit back, relax and enjoy this show.


We have written this theory based
on our observations of the Redemption Track which has already started in the
show, and in fact in the middle presently, to explain to viewers what to look
for when they are looking for Arnav's redemption track in the show.






We will finally leave you with the following poem, which
while definitely portrays Arnav's feelings, can also, portray Khushi's feelings
as well:


"Sorry" by Whitestar




I love you so very much,

Even thou at times I do things that hurt,

I try so hard to hope that you always see,

How much you being in my life means to me,

I am sorry yet again for causing you pain,

that is the last thing I ever wanted to do,

Even when I am trying to look out for you and do the right thing

I mess up, I am sorry for that too.

I hope that you still know how much I love and cherish you,

Like nothing else in my life gives me the trill of being loved by you.

So I hope that you listen and see it in my eyes,

this sincere apology that comes with tears from deep inside.










The question for this
view, will be based around the Chakravyuh.
DO YOU AGREE WITH WHAT WE HAVE SAID? YES OR NO. PLEASE ALSO TELL US
WHY. FURTHERMORE, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER YOU THINK ARNAV HAS
REDEEMED HIMSELF OR STILL NEEDS TO REDEEM HIMSELF.
Do give
us your reasons and suggestions for further redemption tracks; they can be as
sexy as you want them!






Till the next time'


AA

Disclaimer: Please note that this is not meant to be copied or pasted elsewhere, without our express permission.

your "Chakravyuh" is very similar to what has already been discussed in IP Redux...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow what apost! Really gud analysis!

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