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Kalapi thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Laila…Varun hasn't really protected any individual here…if the media wants they can dig up with ease the identity of patient. Nothing really has been to protect him and yes, he will face lawsuit is US…I can guarantee you that…freely sharing sensitive information like this…actually, in the US, he could have been more careful…just isn't revealing the name is not enough anymore…

Anyway as to my questions to the audience, it is still stand…I didn't ask if any religious/cultural basis were there, I am more interested in what the modern women thinks and what is acceptable to them as individuals??? My beliefs don't stem from my culture, but rather my upbringing and character…but for the show, I will discuss in view of Indian Hindi culture…

Last and not the least, can the female members of this forum tell me if men can take more than one wife freely and without any conscious dilemma, why can't the same be applicable for women, why can't women marry more than one man and live together without a 'legal' divorce in these societies??? Who decide what a man does is right, but isn't applicable to the women??? Really, am hoping to get come feed back to my questions here'

The rest - let's agree to disagree…I am not here to impose my view on anyone…to each their own…enjoy the show...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well my thoughts on Kalpi question is this, what is good for "John" should be good for "Jane"
So if a man can have more than one wife without any conscious dilemma, then the woman should also be able to do so . But we live in a double standard world, where as much as we would like to that is not how things play out... A man can have as much "girlfriends" as he can and he is viewed as a Stud, and if a Woman has more than 1 "boyfriends" She is regarded as a wh**e. Height of duble standard!!!
I think the Men, (sorry if there are any guys on this forum) , appointed themselves the lords of morality!!! In a society as India where boys are given more importance than girls, again the double standard of it is a land where Devi's are worshiped yet in come cases, as in the show women are treated horribly, by these same hypocrites that go to temple and Pray to Sita, Durgaa and Lakshmi miya!!!
Not just in India but all over the world, there are women who are always seens as 2nd class citezens...a wrong but sad fact!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

IS she sane enough to make that decision? Does she have sound mind to do so?

She doesn't and thats why he is better off if he starts a divorce procedure. I didn't say you are bashing ISLAM.Plus the society Sugini lives is way different from normal society she would not be treated with much respect if she chooses to be a second wife.Anyways it is better to end that argument here.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well I can be in any of these professions you mentioned or in some others too. I can even reach this conclusion from experience too, can't I😉?? I don't see the need for you to question my credential; you have the option to just say that you don't agree with me…that's all, right??😃

And for the media pulling up information, do I have to be a journalist, really. By clicking few times, I can pull up some amount of any information through fb, twitter, Google or the variety of databases (sure that media has access to, even if I may not). So, how hard it is these days to get information, in fact can I not assume a few things about ourselves in these limited interactions….😉

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vinnie79

Well my thoughts on Kalpi question is this, what is good for "John" should be good for "Jane"
So if a man can have more than one wife without any conscious dilemma, then the woman should also be able to do so . But we live in a double standard world, where as much as we would like to that is not how things play out... A man can have as much "girlfriends" as he can and he is viewed as a Stud, and if a Woman has more than 1 "boyfriends" She is regarded as a wh**e. Height of duble standard!!!
I think the Men, (sorry if there are any guys on this forum) , appointed themselves the lords of morality!!! In a society as India where boys are given more importance than girls, again the double standard of it is a land where Devi's are worshiped yet in come cases, as in the show women are treated horribly, by these same hypocrites that go to temple and Pray to Sita, Durgaa and Lakshmi miya!!!
Not just in India but all over the world, there are women who are always seens as 2nd class citezens...a wrong but sad fact!


Vinnie...Well, there are always double standards. I don't blame anyone. The boys are raised with a different mindset than girls and that even happen in the West. Girls are taught to talk and walk different too. In is an inbuilt subconscious thing ingrained in all of us, sadly. See, how we are talking about if a 'women' can't perform her 'wifely' duties. Haven't really talked about if TVS (the man) is performing his 'manly' duties…and then what if the roles were reversed…can we imagine a girl fedup with his hubby, decides to marry a man, without his consent…actually, how will society look at this girls who walks away from a marriage because hubby failed in his 'manly' duties….. can we envision this scenario – not really, as this mindset hasn't really been grilled by society in us….

I have time and agin been presented with such arguments that TVS was a better option for Sugni, now that TVS isn't in the picture, what options does Sugni have???…nothing other than to be a Bedni..

To me, from this a statement I make the following conclusions (yes, call me evil)..that the poster is assuming the following;

Firstly, that a man can only make the right decision for a girl, or the decision that a man makes is a better one than one a girl is 'capable' of making

Secondly, she will only make a wrong choice and that choice will not be good for her and she can't think of a 'third' option/choice….so a girl's capability is just 2….

Finally, even if she made a choice, then in case if the choice is wrong, she will not be able to live or accept it and take responsibility of that wrong choice. So, it is better to is prevent her making bad choices, choices are going to be made by someone else especially and conveniently by a man….she could rather blame everyone else, then take responsibility of her own actions..

So, see how we have started to value a women's ability to 'think'…and sadly we as women are doing the honors…..

We have talked a lot about being a second wife. Now say, we have a scenario where the first wife isn't able to perform a wifely duty, say to give any heir…So, she decides to request her husband to take a second wife who will fulfill that duty. Now since she consented to a second marriage of her husband can we conclude that she was actually happy doing it? Wasn't her decision motivated by her guilt of not having performed her duty, or her deep sorrow of her 'own' inability or if/or in some cases that hubby forced her to take this decision….so are we just assuming and accepting it on face value…

Anyways, might have digress a bit, but to me the issues isn't as simple as the chemistry of the Jodi… my 2 cents/….

And you are right, women are treated as second class citizen anywhere in the world, be it in the West or East, but my opinion is that the 'respect' given to women in general is better in the East than that in the West….my 0.99 cents of opinion here 😃….

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Well I can be in any of these professions you mentioned or in some others too. I can even reach this conclusion from experience too, can't I😉?? I don't see the need for you to question my credential; you have the option to just say that you don't agree with me'that's all, right??😃

And for the media pulling up information, do I have to be a journalist, really. By clicking few times, I can pull up some amount of any information through fb, twitter, Google or the variety of databases (sure that media has access to, even if I may not). So, how hard it is these days to get information, in fact can I not assume a few things about ourselves in these limited interactions'.😉

I don't need to google; I have friends who are journalists and produers. Then your comment does not hold much credibility since you cannot show any credibility. I did asked a producer friend at Fox (she has the same agent as Matt L on the Today Show) another at CNN and they said no lawsuit. And they would they waste dollars finding about this friend is if it was an American celebrity. And my friend who is sitting here is a lawyer says unless you revealed information about a patient in public arena you have a problem, but in this case VB is just talking about a friend in an article who remains unidentified...so no law suit - he's protected. Have a good day. Now, you said you have access to links that say otherwise... where celebrities have disclosed info about friends and been sued, so please, do show them. Thanks
Edited by Laila2009 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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No name, no law suit, that is elementary. In articles you can write about life experiences of others, without naming and not be sued, or articles would not exist.

I have never read an article that did not mention a real life example,whether human being or animal. How else would you give strength to your story, be objective, show all sides?

Yes, people can try to sue if they feel you have mentioned them in your article., but they can't win without concrete evidence. So, I don't think people are trying that any more.

That is like saying someone is laughing at you in a room, when there are a 100 people in the room, what would you tell the judge?


Edited by hillydee - 13 years ago

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